Moroso Blue Max wires???

psychocabbage
06-24-2007, 09:05 AM
MOR72535 - Moroso Blue Max Spiral Core Spark Plug Wire Set - 1998-2002 Camaro & Firebird LS1

Any of you use these?
I hade them on my LT1 and was happy and my other friends have been fairly happy with them as well.. In fact, one of our friends kept burning up Taylors and went with Moroso and all was good..

So, I am currently in search of these.. They seem to be scarce..Summit shows delivery time of July 8 and after watching it for the past 2 months its just a date that they keep adding to..

Im at 94K miles and think its time for new cables.. and plugs.. of which I will go with bosch plats (single)..

Z28luvr
06-24-2007, 09:55 AM
why do you want to use Bosch platinums?

Greed4Speed
06-24-2007, 10:11 AM
I ran Moroso wires on my 70, but haven't on my 00. They were good wires and I'd imagine they will be for the LS1. Mallory also makes good wires, but I doubt they have them for the LS1 yet.

Its been my experience that there is nothing wrong with Bosch Plats. I've ran them in both our cars for many miles. The GA has 160k miles. My SS has 80k miles. Unlike other platunim plugs, they don't have that puck of metal to fall off into the cylinder which is a good thing IMO. I'm now running NGK TR-55's in my SS to see what all the hype was, but there has been no difference except that I'll have shorter plug life with the copper.

lsxprotour69
06-24-2007, 10:43 AM
I have a friend that uses the granatelli plug wires for the ls1. He loves them! They claim increased horsepower torque and mileage. He said he could feel the difference, and he only had 45k miles on his camaro

angel71rs
06-24-2007, 11:25 AM
Its been my experience that there is nothing wrong with Bosch Plats. I've ran them in both our cars for many miles. I use the Bosch singles too, first on the SS and now the Z. No issues with either, felt a big improvement over the factory plugs on the SS with ~ 50k on it, not a lot on the Z with ~ 20k on it. How many miles did you go on the Boschs?

psychocabbage
06-24-2007, 12:54 PM
In the past on all my cars I have used Bosch Plats.. Why? Because they are damn good.. I do not want to do this job (plug change) for another 95ishK miles. Sooo, seeing as how they performed great in the past, I will continue with them..

I am not a fan of the NGK nor the Taylors.. Hype is usually all that it is..

I do not expect any "power" gains. I do expect to see a miss disappear that I currently experience on rare occassions.

Kraest
06-24-2007, 01:38 PM
I use MSDs.

teke184
06-24-2007, 01:58 PM
$2 for NGK
$45 for taylor spiro pro

why spend more...no need

Greed4Speed
06-24-2007, 08:00 PM
Bosch Plats are under $3 and last at least twice as long as copper. I went 50k miles before changing them, where as I'll probably do good to get 20k out of the copper plugs.

angel71, I personally won't go over 50k miles on plats. I change them at that point and can feel a difference in how smooth the engine runs. IMO, they have lived their life at that point and need to be changed.

Actually my engine developed a low RPM rattle (sounds like valve clatter) since changing to the TR55. I pulled them and there is a nice defined burn spot on the ceramic of each plug. I'm thinking pre-ignition. I have already checked valve lash, exhaust leak. etc.

danziger
06-26-2007, 09:58 AM
I have a friend that uses the granatelli plug wires for the ls1. He loves them! They claim increased horsepower torque and mileage. He said he could feel the difference, and he only had 45k miles on his camaro

The only way he felt a difference was if the previous wires were toasted. The factory wires are pretty damn good and the LS2 wires with the angled boots are IMO even better.
Insofar as plugs, I'm partial to the NGKs and run the TR6s (383 + nitrous) in my Z28 gapped at .038... The TR5s and TR55s are also good and I check/change my plugs too often in my other vehicles to make platinum/iridium worthwhile...

Need4Camaro
06-27-2007, 06:20 AM
I honestly believe the length of our wires are way to short for any difference to be made from brand to brand and since they don't come near the exhaust manifolds to be fried, then any aftermarket brand should be just fine...

psychocabbage
06-27-2007, 12:46 PM
Well, I ordered the blue max's.. Almost went with the Ultra 40's but finally found the Blues in stock for a decent price.

As soon as they come in, I will change my plugs and wires.. Should be fun.

00ls100
06-27-2007, 01:09 PM
Well, I ordered the blue max's.. Almost went with the Ultra 40's but finally found the Blues in stock for a decent price.

As soon as they come in, I will change my plugs and wires.. Should be fun.

lol yup, you'll use every curse word you know and have your arms scratched to hell. fun is the exact word:D :p

Need4Camaro
06-27-2007, 08:12 PM
lol yup, you'll use every curse word you know and have your arms scratched to hell. fun is the exact word:D :p

The first time is a total pain in the ass on the passenger side only... Driverside I cleared in 15 minutes just taking my time for plugs and wires... ... Passengerside, let me tell ya... take off the AIR Pipe - it uses two 10 mm bolts - I didn't have to relocate the coils personally I just used shorter rachets... The 6th one is the hardest... ...Oh and #8 is actually very easy if you get to it from the bottom...

I think I could do this job in probably an hour and a half now...

psychocabbage
06-27-2007, 09:40 PM
I shall time myself when I start this to see how it goes.. (over acheiver and uber competitive..)

psychocabbage
07-15-2007, 05:39 PM
First half done in 25 min.. thats the drivers side.

Passenger side was another story.
removed the 2 10mm bolts to loosen the air and get it out of the way.. Didnt see any other physical possibility to do the job.. removed first two easily.. Third was a pain. Royal pain.. Cable broke while trying to pull it off (goes with the occassional miss I was having..).. Plugs all looked ok.. Not great but certainly ok for 95K miles.

Last one was super easy.. Got it from the bottom.
So for me, the second to the last on the passenger side was the pain.. and took the longest... I would guestimate that one alone took me 25-30 min.. th rest were done in about 5-10 min each at the max..

Car now seems to run a tad smoother.. No real power gain as I wasnt looking for one but no miss so far.. so maybe I did put it back together right.. haha

Need4Camaro
07-16-2007, 11:24 AM
First half done in 25 min.. thats the drivers side.

Passenger side was another story.
removed the 2 10mm bolts to loosen the air and get it out of the way.. Didnt see any other physical possibility to do the job.. removed first two easily.. Third was a pain. Royal pain.. Cable broke while trying to pull it off (goes with the occassional miss I was having..).. Plugs all looked ok.. Not great but certainly ok for 95K miles.

Last one was super easy.. Got it from the bottom.
So for me, the second to the last on the passenger side was the pain.. and took the longest... I would guestimate that one alone took me 25-30 min.. th rest were done in about 5-10 min each at the max..

Car now seems to run a tad smoother.. No real power gain as I wasnt looking for one but no miss so far.. so maybe I did put it back together right.. haha


Thats EXACTLY how my experience was letter perfect... The #6 Plug was the hardest for me aswell and like your experience, my cable also broke, and even broke the spark plug underneith the wire causing a HELL of a time trying to get it out... but I found #8 to be super easy from the bottom...

psychocabbage
07-16-2007, 05:41 PM
I can totally see how people could break things.. I was gifted to have such strong arms and hands that allow me to make a lot of power in cramped areas.. otherwise, it would of been very difficult..

The task doesnt warrant the crazy charges that shops seem to deem they need for the job but at least I wont have to do it for another 95K miles.

For the length of time, it was worth it.. I have many miles and the car still runs strong with no issues.. I cant complain and really dont see why imports are held in such high regard..

Perhaps many people dont do the minimal tasks of keeping up with their car....