Honda Recalls 165,000
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Honda Recalls 165,000
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WASHINGTON -- Honda Motor Corp. said Monday that it was recalling about 165,000 vehicles from the 2005-06 model years in the United States to deal with potential engine problems.
Honda said the recall affected 2005 models of the Acura RL, TL and TSX sedans, 2005 Honda Accord coupes, sedans and hybrids, 2005 Odyssey minivans and 2006 Ridgeline trucks.
The move is part of a global recall because of similar problems, said Honda spokesman Chris Martin. Details on the total number of vehicles and the number of countries where the vehicles were sold were not immediately available, he said.
Martin said the automaker discovered that sealer material leaked onto a coil wire inside the fuel pump relay on some of the vehicles. The wire can become brittle and snap, causing the engine to stall or fail to start.
Honda has received "multiple complaints" of vehicles stalling or failing to start, Martin said. There have been no injuries or crashes linked to the defect.
Dealers will inspect and replace the fuel pump relay free of charge. The recall is expected to begin in early April.
Owners can contact Honda at (800) 999-1009.
Honda said the recall affected 2005 models of the Acura RL, TL and TSX sedans, 2005 Honda Accord coupes, sedans and hybrids, 2005 Odyssey minivans and 2006 Ridgeline trucks.
The move is part of a global recall because of similar problems, said Honda spokesman Chris Martin. Details on the total number of vehicles and the number of countries where the vehicles were sold were not immediately available, he said.
Martin said the automaker discovered that sealer material leaked onto a coil wire inside the fuel pump relay on some of the vehicles. The wire can become brittle and snap, causing the engine to stall or fail to start.
Honda has received "multiple complaints" of vehicles stalling or failing to start, Martin said. There have been no injuries or crashes linked to the defect.
Dealers will inspect and replace the fuel pump relay free of charge. The recall is expected to begin in early April.
Owners can contact Honda at (800) 999-1009.
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And how many things we take for granted! We just expect cars to work like a toaster - on / off. People forget or just don't know the basic maintenance is required, and go as far as to complain about oil changes.
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Yeah, if they change thier oil at all (girls). "I just changed my oil". "When". "last year". "Dear God"!
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Honda has a wire fault in a fuel pump relay and it fails to pump gas and the engine won't start/run.
For has a wire fault in a cruise-control switch which was located over the brake reservoir and resulted in some fires.
Both are bad luck in that they have faulty wires/switches, Honda lucked-out that he switch was not critically located or contacted and the end result is an immobile vehicle, Ford got hammered because the result was a fire, sometimes in a garage. Either case - faulty switch.
As you guys have stated, it's actually amazing that today's cars even run at all because so many things are happening simultaneously - mechanical and electrical. The odds that some little thing will go wrong are just so huge IMO.
And as cars get more complicated, I expect the problems will get more numerous as well, and resulting recalls will escalate accordingly.
Still, I'll keep an eye open to see what the global ramifications of this end up being. Could be huge.
PS - yet another black eye for the Hondatrucksterwannabe, er, Ridgerunt, er, Ridgeline.
For has a wire fault in a cruise-control switch which was located over the brake reservoir and resulted in some fires.
Both are bad luck in that they have faulty wires/switches, Honda lucked-out that he switch was not critically located or contacted and the end result is an immobile vehicle, Ford got hammered because the result was a fire, sometimes in a garage. Either case - faulty switch.
As you guys have stated, it's actually amazing that today's cars even run at all because so many things are happening simultaneously - mechanical and electrical. The odds that some little thing will go wrong are just so huge IMO.
And as cars get more complicated, I expect the problems will get more numerous as well, and resulting recalls will escalate accordingly.
Still, I'll keep an eye open to see what the global ramifications of this end up being. Could be huge.
PS - yet another black eye for the Hondatrucksterwannabe, er, Ridgerunt, er, Ridgeline.
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Honda has a wire fault in a fuel pump relay and it fails to pump gas and the engine won't start/run.
For has a wire fault in a cruise-control switch which was located over the brake reservoir and resulted in some fires.
Both are bad luck in that they have faulty wires/switches, Honda lucked-out that he switch was not critically located or contacted and the end result is an immobile vehicle, Ford got hammered because the result was a fire, sometimes in a garage. Either case - faulty switch.
For has a wire fault in a cruise-control switch which was located over the brake reservoir and resulted in some fires.
Both are bad luck in that they have faulty wires/switches, Honda lucked-out that he switch was not critically located or contacted and the end result is an immobile vehicle, Ford got hammered because the result was a fire, sometimes in a garage. Either case - faulty switch.
Regardless, just about any recall can be used as an example of just how damn tough it is to engineer a safe and reliable vehicle. Now, maybe if some of those recall costs instead were applied to properly funding engineering departments and paying suppliers to do a job correctly...
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Originally Posted by 3SuperSports:
..which is way more than I can say for my last (and I do mean LAST) chevy truck.
..which is way more than I can say for my last (and I do mean LAST) chevy truck.
I'm not sure how reliable the Honda Ridgeline is, but I can say it looks like a sorta rip-off of an older Avalanche, only worse looking, to me.
PS: I owned 1 Honda, back in the late '80's, engine spun the #1 bearing @ 130K miles, and less than 10K later the Auto tranny went...BUT, I don't hold that against Honda's line up today...
Though I prefer Chevy, especially in trucks, mine have always taken a lot of abuse, and came back for more...cheaper parts, easier to work on, and can do hard work.
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Came across this while looking at some other stuff...Guess it all depends on what you use your truck for...
Four Seasons Wrap-up: 2006 Honda Ridgeline
By Jean Jennings : Automobile Magazine
Its 247-hp, 3.5-liter V-6 and five-speed automatic transmission were deemed plenty strong for light-truck duties. Translation: plenty of pull around town with a couple of people and a few antiques, adequate power with five passengers and the maximum 1554-pound payload capacity, and a grunting dog if you tow anything near its 5000-pound max rating. Both times we hitched a trailer and a light car (one Sunbeam Tiger and one BMW 2002), the Ridgeline reacted like a drunk, with sluggish acceleration, not enough torque, gear-hunting on the slightest inclines, and poor straight-line stability.
There was also the matter of fuel economy, which dropped by almost half when towing, a testament to how much heavy loads stressed the V-6-powered Ridgeline. Assistant editor Sam Smith noted that he burned through about three-quarters of a tank of fuel during one 140-mile stretch at highway speeds while schlepping his 3500-pound trailer.
Once the load was left behind, however, it was back to sweetness and light in the logbook. Over the course of the year, it made such a splash among us that, when votes were cast for the 2007 All-Stars, the Ridgeline rated among the ten cars we love best.
We can say with no hesitation that the Ridgeline is not for serious towing and hauling. As technical editor Don Sherman noted: "It's not likely to suck customers out of their traditional big pickups. The pickup faithful will never embrace the Ridgeline: The high load floor and tall bed sides discourage easy loading. The tailgate is three inches higher than my full-size, 1996 Chevy's. It doesn't offer a V-8."
But if you need the interior space and utility, crave a more refined ride, admire its Honda-ness, and harbor only an occasional urge to roam the woods or tow a small racing car, this is your ideal truck.
By Jean Jennings : Automobile Magazine
Its 247-hp, 3.5-liter V-6 and five-speed automatic transmission were deemed plenty strong for light-truck duties. Translation: plenty of pull around town with a couple of people and a few antiques, adequate power with five passengers and the maximum 1554-pound payload capacity, and a grunting dog if you tow anything near its 5000-pound max rating. Both times we hitched a trailer and a light car (one Sunbeam Tiger and one BMW 2002), the Ridgeline reacted like a drunk, with sluggish acceleration, not enough torque, gear-hunting on the slightest inclines, and poor straight-line stability.
There was also the matter of fuel economy, which dropped by almost half when towing, a testament to how much heavy loads stressed the V-6-powered Ridgeline. Assistant editor Sam Smith noted that he burned through about three-quarters of a tank of fuel during one 140-mile stretch at highway speeds while schlepping his 3500-pound trailer.
Once the load was left behind, however, it was back to sweetness and light in the logbook. Over the course of the year, it made such a splash among us that, when votes were cast for the 2007 All-Stars, the Ridgeline rated among the ten cars we love best.
We can say with no hesitation that the Ridgeline is not for serious towing and hauling. As technical editor Don Sherman noted: "It's not likely to suck customers out of their traditional big pickups. The pickup faithful will never embrace the Ridgeline: The high load floor and tall bed sides discourage easy loading. The tailgate is three inches higher than my full-size, 1996 Chevy's. It doesn't offer a V-8."
But if you need the interior space and utility, crave a more refined ride, admire its Honda-ness, and harbor only an occasional urge to roam the woods or tow a small racing car, this is your ideal truck.
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since you have sworn off chevy can i buy that 69 camaro off you???
good luck with you and your honda i hope you have many more problem free miles by the way.
im not a big import guy. but if i had to buy one i would get a honda. this recall doesnt seem like a big thing to me. i thought the news of the odometors being off gave honda a black eye to me
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thats a sad thing to hear. i have had a lot of chevy tucks and besides s-10's/blazers i havent had many problems with them the fullsize trucks.
since you have sworn off chevy can i buy that 69 camaro off you???
good luck with you and your honda i hope you have many more problem free miles by the way.
im not a big import guy. but if i had to buy one i would get a honda. this recall doesnt seem like a big thing to me. i thought the news of the odometors being off gave honda a black eye to me
since you have sworn off chevy can i buy that 69 camaro off you???
good luck with you and your honda i hope you have many more problem free miles by the way.
im not a big import guy. but if i had to buy one i would get a honda. this recall doesnt seem like a big thing to me. i thought the news of the odometors being off gave honda a black eye to me
I've sworn off new Chevrolets
(GM in general) not just because I "got a bad one", but because of how GM treated the situation.If Honda treats me the same way, I'll move on again.
FYI, if I planned to tow heavy loads, I would not have bought the Ridgeline either. I see it as an oversized mid-size truck. My last chevy was an S-10. I like the ridgeline's utility, interior space, it drives great, handles great, hauls the dirt bike and gear just fine.
I wish the big three would put as much effort and quality into mid-size and compact trucks as they do full-size trucks.
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Ford wasn't "unlucky" - the dumbasses failed to put a fuse on the circuit in question. Someone probably treated a DFMEA like a checkbox instead of an engineering tool.
AGREED 100%
Regardless, just about any recall can be used as an example of just how damn tough it is to engineer a safe and reliable vehicle. Now, maybe if some of those recall costs instead were applied to properly funding engineering departments and paying suppliers to do a job correctly...
Again - 100%
AGREED 100%
Regardless, just about any recall can be used as an example of just how damn tough it is to engineer a safe and reliable vehicle. Now, maybe if some of those recall costs instead were applied to properly funding engineering departments and paying suppliers to do a job correctly...
Again - 100%
Despite PPAPs, FMEAs, and million-mile test programs, there comes a point where companies are just getting the luck of the draw on some of these failures though IMO.
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1. What was the first black eye?
PacerX.
He loves them more than me!
Seriously, see below.
2. Mine has over 32,000 flawless miles, which is way more than I can say for my last (and I do mean LAST) chevy truck.
After 400k miles have lapsed and you do some serious working with it ( a car or a decent sized tractor on a trailer behind it), come see me.
PacerX.
He loves them more than me!
Seriously, see below.
2. Mine has over 32,000 flawless miles, which is way more than I can say for my last (and I do mean LAST) chevy truck.
After 400k miles have lapsed and you do some serious working with it ( a car or a decent sized tractor on a trailer behind it), come see me.
But I have protested these vehicles being called "trucks" from the beginning.
Don't get too upset though, I didn't like the Explorer Sport-Trac being called a truck either.
As a side note, just in the rarest possibility that it should ever break down and leave you stranded, would you please take note of the make and model of vehicle that comes to tow the Ridgeline to a local service center for you and post that here for me? That vehicle that comes to get you... THAT is what I consider a "truck", and I doubt if it's a Honda. I think it's funny that Honda dealerships in Winston-Salem, NC use an F-Superduty rollback to reclaim vehicles. Oh well.
Back to the topic, since you asked about other problems...
TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS
"I have had my ridgeline since march 05 not happy at all with the truck .I am having tranmission problem it down shifts to hard to the point where it feels like i an steping on the brake been back to dealership about 5 times and 2 diff dealership and they could not find prob."
PAINT PROBLEMS
"I bought my Ridge at the Beginning of Nov '06, 30 days and 1,100 miles later the paint was peeling from the passengers side of the rear bumper, from the seam between the rear quarter pannel and bumper just behind the passenger's rear wheel.
I took it back to the dealer and they said that it looked like when the bumper was originaly installed it was tighened too tight and the paint cracked.
The dealer fixed the paint under warranty, but it did a little checking around the lot and on my some of my buddies Ridge's and found that on average the right / passenger's side of the bumper is noticeably tighter than the left / driver's. On new '07 that was still on the lot, the bottom tip of the passenger's taillight was actually overlapping the bumper and had dug into the paint a little. Just wanted to throw that out there for anyone that is having similar issues."
Let's see what else I could drum up from the FIRST site I hit - the Ridgeline Owners Club...
Transmission hunting gears...
Heater core noises...
Wipers not working...
Noise in rear suspension...
Noise from brakes...
Water leaks into cabin...
Roof rack covers flying off...
Shoot, here's a good 11 pages (474 threads as of this writing) from the Honda Ridgeline Owners Club website... http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/f...splay.php?f=71
In case all that doesn't wash, I understand the Ridgeline has had a recall for inner door handle clips/cables breaking, rendering the door release handles useless. (Recall #06-012) I guess you could climb out the window...
So this would be at least recall #2.
