Doing burn outs in a manual trans camaro.

I'm buying a v8 ls1 6 speed manual trans camaro. I just want to know how do you and the cons of doing donuts and burn outs in the manual trans. I am a newbie and im not looking to go **** up my car, but like most know would like to do those things once I get the hang of the manual trans, but what are the does and the don't and long term and short term damgae or what ever and what does it effect the most.

Help guys. Remember new to the manual trans.

My car also has 106 k miles and wasn't race or nothing and was driven as a daily driver and wasnt abused. Car is fully stocked.

Two words....Line Lock :D

:shrug: Thanks for all that info. What ever that means. Anyone else.

Line lock makes it so that your front brakes remain pressurized clamping on to the rotor when you let off the break pedal so you can just dump the clutch and mash the gas pedal and not worry about wear and tear on the rear brakes as you are doing a burnout.

So how do you do this I didnt really get what you said. Sorry. Newbie.

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Try these as they may shead a little more light on the subject:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/what-exactly-line-lock-41283.html

http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=shop&pcid=144&sid=161#P2242

This will allow a vehicle to complete a burnout - ie. warming the tires in the waterbox proir to staging and launchng the car at the dragstrip safely. But as far as doing burnouts or worse yet donuts on the street, you're on your own with those as they are potentially dangerous and will definately cause excess wear and tear on the vehicle.:D :D :D

The car could burn out. I was wondering how to really do the donuts or what ever the right way, and what is the pros and cons. Im not just going to be doing donuts all the time or any time soon just probably one day want to see what that v8's all about so more detailed info would be great.

didn't you just get this car? or do you even have it yet?.....not a good idea to go tear up your new ride. Plus you have another thread about how to drive a stick too........you need to slow down and learn how to drive the car...doing dumb **** is going to get you in trouble or hurt

Yeah, I know men. That's why I said I was new to this and I could drive a stick just got to get use to the car. Only first gear not always smooth, but mean I'm really just trying to learn everything I can so I don't get in trouble or hurt myself. I said in the opening post that I wasn't looking to be doing donuts as soon as I get the car, but just wanted to know so when I do get it down packed I have the info that I need instead of just going out there and doing stuff without knowledge of what could happen and end up messing up my car and regretting it.

Burnouts and doughnouts are rough on your whole driveline. if you are new to the car and driving a stick you may want to wait until you are more comfortable with the car. It has all the torque needed to break the back tires loose without a line lock but if you arent comfortable with the car it can get away from you real quick and the last thing you want is your new baby sliding sideways and into a pole, tree, curb, person or someone elses baby. You will also eat back tires and they arent cheep. If you are gonna do it and everyone on here has at one time or another, do it safely. Go somewhere where there are no cars or obstructions and where you local police arent going to hear you and come award you with your first burnout award, a big fat careless/wreckeless driving ticket. And another long list of fines they can award you with for careless operation of a motor vehicle. :alert:

Yeah, I don't want a ticket, but I'll figure that one out later.

I really don't wanna sound like a dick, but dude, learn how do actually drive a car first before asking how to do burnouts and donuts. I have driven sticks since I got my first Camaro when I was 14. Since then (8 years) I have maybe done 5-6 donuts and 10-15 burnouts. Most of the burnouts have been at a track warming up the tires.

Yeah I think it looks cool and all but I would rather play it safe and not have to worry about breaking anything on the car and watching the tread on my tires go down. I get asked to do a burnout everytime I leave the local hang out (most of the guys are ricers), and almost everytime I just make some smart ass remark telling them its only a v6, or it can't burn out because it doesn't have enough power. I have nothing to prove to them and there is no reason to risk breaking something or getting a ticket.

To each his own: if you want to do a burnout at every stoplight and a donut at every empty intersection then go ahead, but when something breaks or you get an expensive ticket (believe me they aren't cheap) you'll regret doing it.

Thanks for that men, but I do know how to drive a stick. Have about 20 hours in. That's not that much and need to get use to driving my car, but if you see in my opening post I said I want to get the hang of my car first then I'll look to probably do those things, but i'm not looking to do donuts outside the dealership. I'm taking my time and just wanted to know and I'm not stupid or anything, but it is a V8 and I probably just want to have fun one day and do it just for the **** of it, but I want to also know the cons of doing these two and how they should go about being done with doing the less damage possible or what ever yall could tell me would be good.

What the heck is everyone jumping down this guys throat for? It's not like he came on here boasting about drifting around a corner with a nun in the rear seat and a school bus full of little girls on the corner.

I've been known to do more then a few donuts in empty parking lots. It's simple in these cars, ease off the clutch like normal, punch the throttle, and yank the wheel in whichever direction. Modulate the throttle and try to not bounce off the rev limiter too much. I'd much rather see some guy doing donuts in a parking lot and knowing how the car will react when the rear wheels do start spinning, then him giving it a bit too much gas going around a corner and accidentally pulling a 270 in the middle of an intersection.

When a rear wheel drive car looses traction in the rear due to tire spin, the rear is simply gone. And with these cars it does not take all that much. A little bit to much fuel through a corner, and you are facing backwards before you know it. Once a person actually experiences this, they'll be way less prone to give it gas in a corner knowing what'll happen if they overstep the cars capabilities.

As far as wear and tear on the car, sure. You get wear and tear from driving the damn thing to work. You'll get a bit more doing donuts, but I have yet to have anything go wrong from donuts. It is way more likely to break something on a drag strip then it is doing a couple donuts. You will fry tires quick though, and no they are not cheap. Luckily for me there's a Corvette junkyard that also has a few F-Bodies and they'll give me used tires for very cheap--mounted. I'll go through 2 sets of rears in a season.

Honestly though, if you do donuts in a empty parking lot, it *is* good learning experience to see how the car behaves when you've overstepped it's limits. It's like taking your kid to the mall parking lot when it first snows and they've first started driving.

Sure, they can experience their first spinout on the road--and likely crash. Or they can do the very irresponsible thing--go to the mall, and get some real experience of how to recover/avoid spinning in a fairly safe environment.

Thanks men. That's all I been lookin for and it seems like no one reads cuz I explained in the opening post that I'm not lookin g to do this stuff out the gate, but sorry but I don't know what modulate means. Just don't red line it right? I also hear you are never to use ur breaks cuz that would throw your whole car right?

i've got mixed feelings about all this

andrempv, i do think your moving a little fast, i understand you have limited experiance with a stickshift but you do have experiance
but you do need to learn the specific quirks of your car, how to drive your specific car, and how to drive it well
when thats all said and done then you can mess around

as for pros and cons,
pros, fun, looks cool, teaches you how your car reacts
cons, extremely harsh on your rear-end (you can destory it), can be harsh on your clutch, shortens the life of your tires, and many troublesome encounters with law enforcement

how to do a burnout
left foot on the clutch, car in 1st gear, right foot on the gas, up to around 4500 rpm
drop clutch pedal quickly and slamm your left foot on the brake while your right foot is still giving gas

the front brakes will hold the car from moving
the rear brakes will burn up while the tires spin and make plenty of white smoke


dont be detered by some of the response on this thread, you do need to slow down a bit, when you get the car, and enjoy the car a bit, then you can start thinking about doing more

Make sure you are conscious of your surroundings when doing donuts. For example: if you are doing this in an 'empty' parking lot, there are still lamp posts to worry about. When you do a donut the car can swing wide so be careful.

Thanks, and yeah I am going to take my time on how I drive my car. When I feel I know the car and get down the stick shift I'll look to have fun. Thanks for the advise and tips though.

Im With Him Go Some Where Safe And Just Give It A Go See How The Car Reacts Theese Cars Are Powerful Even In Stock Trim But Just Realize It And Learn Better To Screw Up And Loose It In A Vacant Parking Lot Where You Have A Controlled Enviroment Then Any Where Else So Just Go And Play A Little

one more quick note. your car will handle alot different in a moist enviroment (say it has just rained or is raining or the like or whatever. if the road is wet it barely takes anything to get them to spin around. (I have done it with hardly any throttle and had to turn the wheel fast to avoid another person who I guess was in to much of a hurry) the rear of the f-bodies are very light. and very reactive to adverse conditions (anything other than dry clean pavement) Other than that Burnouts and donuts are pretty harsh, and if there are any weak parts in the drivetrain or suspension you will find them. Usually when you least want to.

Got it yall. And I would try it in a controlled enviorment.

once you locate a place to try it , just give it a whirl , you ll get the feel for it ....... just be careful its sucks smashing up a car ....... let alone one you just got

alright thanks.

push in the clutch, then rev the car up to 5000 rpm, take your foot off the clutch fast and then immediately put it on the brake. lol it will be fun if you do it. no seriously do what i said, but around 3000-3500.

I will agree that getting your car in a clear area and finding out just what it will do when you get on it is a really good thing. I learned first hand that at 65 mph on a damp interstate I can break traction when my auto down shifts. I also learned that when that traction was lost going that fast control was not an option and we went from the slow lane to slidding backwards in the center median in about 2 seconds. I got lucky and there was no guard rail so the sand stopped me. I fixed my traction control the next day. Also if anyone says they haven't "tested" there car they are lying. They also dont watch pron and have never spanked it. Oh yea it was late at night with no traffic so i was only a danger to myself and my copilot. I have never seen anyone get in that tight of a ball on the floor board in my life :D .

If there is a road course near your house those are also fun. Im lucky and living in Gainesville Florida we have an NHRA Drag Strip with a road course. you didnt buy a V-8 becuse its fuel efficient and reliable. Buckle up and test it out. :cz28:

Find yourself a parking lot, turn your steering wheel and do a burnout. Voila, donuts.