soontobeGN
03-07-2007, 04:42 PM
Anyone running this? I did the free ram air mod, will this give me a noticible increase in power over the FRA?
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Fast Toys Ram AirsoontobeGN 03-07-2007, 04:42 PM Anyone running this? I did the free ram air mod, will this give me a noticible increase in power over the FRA? rwb 03-07-2007, 06:07 PM At speed it works well. LBJ 03-07-2007, 09:41 PM yes it works well. I checked my IAT's before the install (30-45min) then tested after and the results "I" got where a consistant 10-12* cooler with the FTRA. Now that was outside the city....not sitting in traffic ect....on some back roads. I think it really starts to shine when you breach 100mph. This is just my personal experince. Brian soontobeGN 03-08-2007, 12:57 AM yes it works well. I checked my IAT's before the install (30-45min) then tested after and the results "I" got where a consistant 10-12* cooler with the FTRA. Now that was outside the city....not sitting in traffic ect....on some back roads. I think it really starts to shine when you breach 100mph. This is just my personal experince. Brian Thanks for the responses, hopefully I'll be picking one of these up in a week or 2, can't wait to give it a highway shot to test it out. teke184 03-08-2007, 08:56 PM skip the FTRA....go with a true ram air scoop...the SSRA soontobeGN 03-08-2007, 08:59 PM skip the FTRA....go with a true ram air scoop...the SSRA I dont like the SSRA because of how far out it comes. I would scrape it or brake it to pieces on all the parking blocks or curbs around here. I like the FTRA because it tucks up higher and comes with a block off plate. Greed4Speed 03-08-2007, 10:16 PM I dont like the SSRA because of how far out it comes. I would scrape it or brake it to pieces on all the parking blocks or curbs around here. I like the FTRA because it tucks up higher and comes with a block off plate. Don't pull so far over the curbs and blocks. You don't have to keep going until your tires touch. I won't even put the tip of the cars nose over one and I don't have a chin ram air kit. I learned not to pull so far over when I first got a chin breathing car and the air dam scraped a few times. soontobeGN 03-09-2007, 07:25 AM Don't pull so far over the curbs and blocks. You don't have to keep going until your tires touch. I won't even put the tip of the cars nose over one and I don't have a chin ram air kit. I learned not to pull so far over when I first got a chin breathing car and the air dam scraped a few times. Its easy to say but it only takes one time to ruin a nice ram air kit teke184 03-09-2007, 08:38 AM those mass produced parking curbs don't come anywhere near the SSRA scoop. there is about 2" of clearance between them. so unless you make a habit of pulling the nose of your car over curbs that are 8" or more high...you'll have no problem. in 3.5yrs of owning the SSRA i have only scraped once...and that was a drunken mistake Kraest 03-09-2007, 08:39 AM Back in. If you had a C5, you wouldn't be able to touch a parking block without scratching the front. Fast_Toys 03-09-2007, 04:35 PM The FTRA is a proven and tested mod. We have been selling them since 1998! A few companies out there have copied or product or portions of our product. The FTRA is made of sturdy T304 stainless steel, is stealthy when installed and will last the life of your vehicle. We also include a block off plate and removable front seal. You can read an independent review at www.installuniversity.com . They only tested the FTRA is the 1/8 mile and still saw consistent improvements. In the 1/4 mile, they would be much better! They also saw fuel mileage increases! We also are always available for support and technical questions. Thanks! FifeDogg 03-12-2007, 01:33 PM I dont like the SSRA because of how far out it comes. I would scrape it or brake it to pieces on all the parking blocks or curbs around here. I like the FTRA because it tucks up higher and comes with a block off plate. The new SSRA is made of flexible plastic. Its supposed to bend rather then break. I have mine sitting at the house just waiting to be installed :). Fast_Toys 03-12-2007, 05:15 PM For people that want to try the FTRA, mention this post on your order and we will knock 10.00 off the price! Valid this week only. PhantomTA 03-14-2007, 11:49 AM I ran the fast toys set up for years, and I wouldnt run anything else. Hell if I ever buy another F-Body and stay N/A im going to buy this setup again. Hands down a great piece. danziger 03-17-2007, 10:09 AM I've had my FTRA since 2000...it is a quality piece. You won't "feel" 10HP any way you slice it, but I still give it a "thumbs up". V6toZ28 03-17-2007, 06:08 PM yes it works well. I checked my IAT's before the install (30-45min) then tested after and the results "I" got where a consistant 10-12* cooler with the FTRA. Now that was outside the city....not sitting in traffic ect....on some back roads. I think it really starts to shine when you breach 100mph. This is just my personal experince. Brian 10-12* cooler than what? Fast_Toys 03-19-2007, 04:45 PM 10-12* cooler than what? I would guess 10-12 F cooler IAT temps than what he/she was seeing before they installed the FTRA. CJ Black LS1 Z28 M6 03-21-2007, 08:04 PM FTRA was the original. SSRA is plastic and won't heatsoak. You can also get the SSRA without the scoop if you are worried about parking. Either way you will be happy Fast_Toys 03-21-2007, 08:10 PM FTRA was the original. SSRA is plastic and won't heatsoak. You can also get the SSRA without the scoop if you are worried about parking. Either way you will be happy There has been numerous testing to show that the FTRA cools down immediately when you start moving. Heat soak is not an issue. However, we do have customers that use Ice Packs on the FTRA to actually cool the air down lower than ambient. Some even inject Nitrous up through the duct so no one can see it ;) Why pay extra for an SSRA when the FTRA performs just as well and also includes a block off plate? teke184 03-22-2007, 08:10 AM yeah i can't imagine heat soak from in front of the radiator is that much to be concerned about. although if it does heat up...i doubt that 13sec would give enough time to cool off that much...i'm sure some... i'm happy with my SSRA.....no offense to you guys Fast Toys....i think it gives marginally better gains with the lower scoop, and i've never had a problem with rain. i've even driven mine in hurricane rain....stopped under a bridge and pulled the lid...no water at all. so i was convinced. Fast_Toys 03-22-2007, 11:37 AM We've sold thousands of units and only two people have ever reported problems both of which admitted they got caught in flooding conditions stuck in an underpass and other vehicles were dead there too. We do include the block off plate which will disable the kit and can also be used for testing. T304 stainless steel is going to last forever and our kit is very hard to see once installed (stealth) If you do a search on LS1TECH you will find a post from a guy that did IAT temp testing to test if the FTRA heat soaked and he found that temps were within a few degrees of ambient (the best you can hope for). We've said it before and will say it again... since the top portion of the SSRA is almost identical to the FTRA, it's highly unlikely it will perform any better. There is a LOT of air movement under an fbody when in motion and we are pulling air right off of the lower air deflector which was specifically designed to channel air up into the area where the FTRA ram air plate sits. Save the extra money and get the original ram air kit, the FTRA :) Lots of people have downright copied our design or large portions of it for a reason! V6toZ28 03-24-2007, 12:58 AM I would guess 10-12 F cooler IAT temps than what he/she was seeing before they installed the FTRA. Odd ... every test I've done had the IAT at ambient, regardless of the induction system. AL SS590 M6 03-24-2007, 08:44 AM Odd ... every test I've done had the IAT at ambient, regardless of the induction system. Depends upon the parameters of the test. With the free ram air the starting line IATs were as much as 40° higher than ambient but were back to ambient by half track, as seen on my autotap scans. With the SSRA my starting line IATs are very close to ambient ,within a couple of degrees, and drop a couple of degrees below ambient by the end of the track, maybe due to wind chill?? LBJ 03-25-2007, 11:23 AM 10-12* cooler than what? The IAT's were 10-12* cooler with the FTRA on than without it. I let the car cool down then used AutoTap to monitor the IAT's when I went for a ride without the FTRA. Came back did the FTRA install while the car cooled down again and then went for another ride and the IAT's had dropped 10-12*. This was not just a temporary drop in temp either. With the FTRA on the IAT's were matched with the ambient temp...... with out the FTRA the IAT's were 10-12* warmer than the ambient temp. I guess it was the "scooping" of cooler air from outside the engine compartment that caused the difference. Its a good product. | ||