Hard top or Rag Top

ibfromoakcali
03-01-2007, 05:17 AM
Has anyone noticed that there are no pics of the vert with the top up. I wonder if it could be a hardtop convertible?

Purple 92 SS
03-01-2007, 08:05 AM
thats because the vert doesnt have a top frame or top yet.

its just built to hold one as of now, and doesnt actually hold one yet.

Doug Harden
03-01-2007, 09:08 AM
Rag top only....

stars1010
03-01-2007, 11:14 AM
I wont buy one at all if the vert is a hard top..........but I know its not ;)

christianjax
03-01-2007, 02:30 PM
The concept doesn't a top at all. But the production model will be a soft top.

Oddball
04-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Me want a hard-top so I can drive it in winter and inclement weather.

poSSum
04-13-2007, 12:16 AM
Me want a hard-top so I can drive it in winter and inclement weather.

The 4th gen cloth top is perfectly adequate for 4 season driving ... and I'm sure the 5th will be the same ... or better.

jg95z28
04-13-2007, 09:50 AM
Ragtop. It's already going to be criticized for its weight; it doesn't need a hardtop to make matters worse.

stars1010
04-13-2007, 12:25 PM
Ragtop. It's already going to be criticized for its weight; it doesn't need a hardtop to make matters worse.

Plus I'd like a trunk that I can fit my golf clubs in.

RussStang
04-13-2007, 12:51 PM
Rag top is fine. My rag top hasn't given me any problems, and it is driven all year long. The hard top is just going to add even more weight to an already likely hefty car.

PaintBallR
04-13-2007, 02:49 PM
The 4th gen cloth top is perfectly adequate for 4 season driving ... and I'm sure the 5th will be the same ... or better.

I agree also, but my only concern about a rag top is some punk coming with a knife and slashing the top.
Was going to buy a 3rd gen soft top and went to look at and when we came back to the car 30 mins later cause I meet him at an arena the top was slashed. That's a nice 2G+ bill to fix. No thanks I'll only buy hard top.

Oddball
04-13-2007, 03:56 PM
I just like the looks of a hard-top convertable as opposed to a rag top. Personal preference.

jg95z28
04-13-2007, 03:57 PM
I agree also, but my only concern about a rag top is some punk coming with a knife and slashing the top.Which was the deal breaker on why I bought a t-top Z28 in 1995 instead of a convertible. In hindsight, I should've bought the convertible with the M6, over the t-top with the A4. Heck that's what we have insurance for right? :D

EllwynX
04-13-2007, 07:08 PM
I just like the looks of a hard-top convertable as opposed to a rag top. Personal preference.

I completely agree. Hard top is MUCH better looking as well as not easily slashed open like the rag top.

FS3800
04-13-2007, 07:11 PM
i like the looks of a hard top better than rag top as well.. but i don't think that's enough to outweigh the costs of more weight and less trunk space

blackblur1996z28
04-13-2007, 11:38 PM
I agree also, but my only concern about a rag top is some punk coming with a knife and slashing the top.
Was going to buy a 3rd gen soft top and went to look at and when we came back to the car 30 mins later cause I meet him at an arena the top was slashed. That's a nice 2G+ bill to fix. No thanks I'll only buy hard top.


Going through situation right now and it's making me sour on getting another soft top. I think I'm going to go with the hard top anyway.

chevyfreak1822003
04-13-2007, 11:54 PM
Ive been always drawn to the coupe because i dont like the looks of ragtops but if gm made a hardtop version i might just be tempted to buy one.
P.S. this is a little off topic but How come the camaro couldnt have t tops or a targa top but it can have a convertible? That one has been buging me for a while. I would think a convertible would be more dangerous.

5thgen69camaro
04-13-2007, 11:57 PM
P.S. this is a little off topic but How come the camaro couldnt have t tops or a targa top but it can have a convertible? That one has been buging me for a while. I would think a convertible would be more dangerous.

I think convertibles and hard tops have different crash standards

chevyfreak1822003
04-14-2007, 12:12 AM
that would make sense, I wonder if they did a targa top if they could classify it as an convertible. Tecnicly a convertable is a car having a top that may be lowered or removed(webster). Any one else seeing this loophole?

Good Ph.D
04-14-2007, 01:07 AM
Targas are classified as hardtops.

Last time I checked Webster wasn't employed by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

poSSum
04-14-2007, 08:26 AM
Last time I checked Webster wasn't employed by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

You really checked? ;)

chevyfreak1822003
04-14-2007, 11:55 PM
Lol

Good Ph.D
04-15-2007, 12:54 AM
Well seeing as how he was born in the 1700s and the NHTSA didn't come about until the 1970s, I think its safe to assume.

poSSum
04-15-2007, 10:45 AM
Well seeing as how he was born in the 1700s and the NHTSA didn't come about until the 1970s, I think its safe to assume.

But you didn't actually check! :p

Sorry about taking this totally off topic but this reminds me of an legal exchange.

Q: Before signing the death certificate had you taken the man's pulse? -- A: No.
Q: Did you listen for a heart beat? -- A: No.
Q: Did you check for breathing? -- A: No.
Q: So when you signed the death certificate you hadn't taken any steps to make sure the man was dead, had you?
A: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a jar on my desk, but for all I know he could be out there practicing law somewhere. - Cross of Coroner by Defense Atty

61695
04-21-2007, 12:44 PM
Still gonna wait for the rag top version. The orange concept sold me.

Bayer-Z28
04-22-2007, 01:20 AM
Hard top = Weight but less wind noise

Rag top = wind noise, but little weight

I'd have to say hard top... It would prolly have some kind of electric assist, or whatever they call it. Plus if anyone REALLY wants to get into a rag top, all they need is a sharp knife.

fastball
04-22-2007, 08:03 AM
I just hope for performance sake that the engineers design the convertable as an intended convertable from the ground up. Which means stiffer body and sub frame reinforcements to reduce cowl shake and chasis flex. Older Camaro convertables were very flimsy in comparison to their hard top counterparts.

I myself will buy the hard top with a moonroof. I just prefer the added security of curtain airbags and the more solid structure of a hard roof.

Good Ph.D
04-22-2007, 08:24 AM
Plus if anyone REALLY wants to get into a rag top, all they need is a sharp knife.

Maybe its just me, but I don't see why thats all that much of a concern.

What of value are you going to have in your car for an extended period of time in a non visible area?

Personal electronics are so cheap and so mass produced there is little reason to steal them... Everyone already has a Blackberry and an Ipod. Any headunit made in the last ten years has a detachable plate and my ten year old cousin knows the radio is useless without it.

If you've got the type of job where you need to carry a big sack of cash or the secret Enron papers then why are you leaving that in the car, let alone in the passenger compartment?

OutsiderIROC-Z
04-22-2007, 02:00 PM
The only convertible I want is with a retractable hard top.

Ron78Z&01SS
04-23-2007, 01:43 AM
I LOVE the lines of the coupe's roof. To me, A soft top would look "odd" when up. Even though I love driving with Tor targa tops off, moon/sun roofs do absolutely NOTHING for me.

If a hard vert top following the lines of the coupe were offered, I'd be VERY tempted to go for a convertible. I just don't think a soft top could give the same look.