Prediction on Future

As the site sits now its probley about 80-90% 4th gen owners. When the new Camaro comes out that will all change, maybe the 4thgen will be looked upon like the 3rd :eek: .

I bet that there will be a surplus of new first time camaro owners posting that are ignorant to other Gens. And will probley ask the same questions we've already went over(ohh wait that happens now:p ). But on the good side this site will grow a lot hopefully...

Anyone else think like this, or have any predictions...

As the site sits now its probley about 80-90% 4th gen owners. When the new Camaro comes out that will all change, maybe the 4thgen will be looked upon like the 3rd :eek: .

I bet that there will be a surplus of new first time camaro owners posting that are ignorant to other Gens. And will probley ask the same questions we've already went over(ohh wait that happens now:p ). But on the good side this site will grow a lot hopefully...

Anyone else think like this, or have any predictions...

No offense, but that is a pretty bold statement for someone with only 4 posts.

No offense, but that is a pretty bold statement for someone with only 4 posts.

Especially since he just registered in January of 07. Must have been reading unregistered for a loooong time to say something like that.

Yes I own a 4th gen. But I also own two 1st gens. I actually have been looking for another project (ssshh, don't tell my wife) and even here in sunny California (KAH-LEE-FORN-YAH if you ask our governor ;)) 4th gens are more abundant and cheaper than 2nd gens and are even creeping as low as some 3rd gens in price.

My point? Nothing really. But then this thread seems to be about pointless statements. :D

Sure, there will probably be a lot of new members coming here, who are new to Camaros completely (heck, I hope so ... that will mean that GM has attracted new buyers! :thumb: ) but keep in mind, while "we" the current generation may have a very good "heads up" on things about the 5th-gen, we'll all be nOOb 5th-gen owners as well, and have to learn just as much about the cars as the NEW owners/members to the site, so hey, it'll just be a learning curve for everybody, so we need to cut people some slack for their "lack of knowledge" (<--less harsh than ignorant ;)) and not portray the "elitist" attitude which is not very becoming of a site which is as classy (IMO) as CZ28.com can be :cool:.

4th gens are more abundant and cheaper than 2nd gens and are even creeping as low as some 3rd gens in price.

omg...buy one for me...lol...
ive been trying to buy one for so long...and well i dont actually have the worlds best budget...cough cough college student....but as it looks right now...im saven for a 5th gen

omg...buy one for me...lol...
ive been trying to buy one for so long...and well i dont actually have the worlds best budget...cough cough college student....but as it looks right now...im saven for a 5th genlol... I already have a college student at home that's bleeding me dry. :D

Seriously though. I was looking for a 2nd or 3rd gen the other day, and saw a few 4th gens for less than the price of a semi-clean 2nd gen. The sweet spot seems to be the 93-95 Z28s. I've seen several for under $5k. ;)

As the site sits now its probley about 80-90% 4th gen owners. When the new Camaro comes out that will all change, maybe the 4thgen will be looked upon like the 3rd :eek: .

I bet that there will be a surplus of new first time camaro owners posting that are ignorant to other Gens. And will probley ask the same questions we've already went over(ohh wait that happens now:p ). But on the good side this site will grow a lot hopefully...

Anyone else think like this, or have any predictions...

Four posts, and you've been a member for less than one month, huh?

So..... tell me how much do you know about this site and the people here to make such statements and make a prediction like this?



FWIW: I'd say 4th gen ownership on this site is probally more like 20% or less if you include the folks in the lounge (which I'm sure has a high percentage of people who don't even own cars). Of some of the more longtime and passionate Camaro owners you'll find a Bullitt Mustang, a Grand Prix GXP, quite a few new-gen GTOs, a few Trailblazers (incxluding at least 1 TBSS), a Corvette collector, a few people who own Holden Commodores, a Monte Carlo owner, and a whole host of other cars with nary a 4th gen Camaro amoung them. One person is a sales manager at a Dodge dealer. Another drives a Solstice.

Amoung others there is a very high percentage of people who favor the 3rd gen Camaro over the 4th. Also there's a number of people, who while current 4th gen owners, have intrest in other cars... Thunderbird SCs for me, and 1st gen Camaros for at least a couple of others.

What brings us all together is a LOVE and APPRICIATION for a car that has alot of history behind it. A few of us have owned a few 4th gen Camaros or Firebirds, but more have previously owned some type of Camaro in our past (recent or otherwise).

Just a few observations I've picked up being on this site for over 6 years and having the pleasure of meeting alot of these guys last year at the Camaro unveiling (and meeting a few people when I went down to Australia a few months ago). An outlook you can't get from just 4 posts and a membership measured virtually in days.

I'm not flaming or slamming you in any way, so don't take it as such. We all welcome any new intrest in this site because as mentioned, it means Camaro's intrest is spreading beyond just diehard enthusiasts and those of us who have had a history of Camaro in the past. My point is that this site has a jawdropping number of members for a website devoted to a single car name, and is one of the most visited of any GM related website. I discovered it when they got a blurb in Hot Rod Magazine at least 7 years ago. You don't get that type of popularity or those membership numbers just depending on what is arguably the least successful Camaro model to date. ;)

Though it may seem like I just stumbled on to this site last month I have been hanging around this site a very long time. I once had another screen name and came here often.

I rember when the home page was two 95 black/stripped Z28's,there was a save the f-body petion webpage, and the f-body father was know only as Redplanet. So I think that I have decent perception of things.

Sorry for stepping on anyones toes with the join date. I just waited to get a 4th Gen before I felt welcome again.

As the site sits now its probley about 80-90% 4th gen owners. When the new Camaro comes out that will all change, maybe the 4thgen will be looked upon like the 3rd :eek: .


Anyone else think like this, or have any predictions...

If this becomes the case, it will definitely take some time. Not everyone is going to run out to buy a 5th gen and for those that do, there is a chance that they will never become a registered member of this site anyhow. The 4th gen crowd is here to stay for quite awhile.:cool:

Though it may seem like I just stumbled on to this site last month I have been hanging around this site a very long time. I once had another screen name and came here often.

I rember when the home page was two 95 black/stripped Z28's,there was a save the f-body petion webpage, and the f-body father was know only as Redplanet. So I think that I have decent perception of things.

Sorry for stepping on anyones toes with the join date. I just waited to get a 4th Gen before I felt welcome again.

Why would you need to actually own a 4th gen to be welcome here? :confused:

I think the same thin will happen as has on the Mustang borads. Lots of variety of new and older models. Those sites have not been taken over by the 05 and newer Stangs. So I think "us" 5th gen owners will play nice too! :)

It will be interesting. The newest f-bodies are, for the most part, the same as the '93 model.

All gens are known quantities now. Knowledge of the in's and out's is here and available. 5th gen will be a whole new animal. This is something that hasn't happened in the F-bod community for 14 years now...before the internet was anywhere near mainstream.

As the site sits now its probley about 80-90% 4th gen owners. When the new Camaro comes out that will all change, maybe the 4thgen will be looked upon like the 3rd :eek: .

I bet that there will be a surplus of new first time camaro owners posting that are ignorant to other Gens. And will probley ask the same questions we've already went over(ohh wait that happens now:p ). But on the good side this site will grow a lot hopefully...

Anyone else think like this, or have any predictions...

well yes there will be a lot of first time camaro owners on here i'm sure once the 5th gen is for sale, but then again we still have first time owners with 3rd gens still. i'm not sure about the percentage of 4th gen owners though.

the 4th gen looked as a 3rd gen? eh, maybe but not right away for sure...especially the LS1's. it will take quite a while before the 5th gen owners percentage will come even close to matching the current 4th gen owners...probably at least 7-8 years(the 4th gen does cover 9 model years and some people just finished paying off those 02's :lol:)

well yes there will be a lot of first time camaro owners on here i'm sure once the 5th gen is for sale, but then again we still have first time owners with 3rd gens still. i'm not sure about the percentage of 4th gen owners though.

the 4th gen looked as a 3rd gen? eh, maybe but not right away for sure...especially the LS1's. it will take quite a while before the 5th gen owners percentage will come even close to matching the current 4th gen owners...probably at least 7-8 years(the 4th gen does cover 9 model years and some people just finished paying off those 02's :lol:)

the 4th gen years were low production though roughly 680,000 total. And only a very small percentage of those were v-8 ~230,000. GM has a goal of 150,000 units/year which imo is way to conservative. there will be way more demand than GM thinks

I'll admit I'm a 4th gen owner but I'm also going to admit that my family has owned a slew of other vehicles such as a 1969 Firebird, Mustang II, Pontiac Parissien, Ford Falcon, Ford Explorer, Ford Escape, Chevy Cavalier, and even (Ugh, I've heard all the jokes, it's my mothers car...) a New Beetle.

My Camaro was and is my first car. However that does not make me ignorant to the heritage and history of the car. Every time I see a 1st gen, my head turns. Every time I see a 2nd, 3rd or 4th gen, I feel a sense of commaradarie with my fellow owners. To me, it's not just a car, a Camaro is a choice in life. You chose to sit behind the bowtie and you chose the Camaro over the Camry, Accord, Civic, Mustang, SX2.0, Cavalier, 300C, you name it.

To say a 4th gen owner is ignorant to the previous generations is to deny the entire culture behind the car; it is to accuse people of proceeding through life with blinders on, ignoring anything that isn't straight ahead.

I'm not saying that every person that buys a new Camaro will be ignorant to the past. You have to exclude us the car guys.

There will hopefully be new buyers that never cared for the Camaro(GM) until now. And if that happens then there will be a lot of them that don't know anything about earlier gens.Take for example the VW Beetle, theres a lot of new beetle owners that don't give a hill of beans about the old ones history. Which is perfectly fine.

Not caring about the past happens now. What Im saying though when the 5th comes out and sells more like mustang it will happen on a grander scale.

I dont know if I agree with your first statement or not. I'd have to lean mostly to disagreement. While, yes, if we get more new camaro owners, they may or may not care about the history, they will definately know there WAS a histroy. regardless of weather or not they care of the history, most folks know there has been a camaro in the past.

The value of the 4th gens, may go down. It may stay the same, or it may increase. I imagine it will continue its downward spiral, to bout 4-5grand like the 93-95s are, and then pan out for a while. Once thats done, it will gradually begin an upward climb. The 3rds are in the upward trend now, and the second gens are getting almost as insane as the firsts, specially for the 70-73's.
Personally, though, if its me, no i wont get rid of mine for a 5th. I like my 4th gen for what it is.. granted my favorite is my 3rd gens.. but hey, we're all different. As a Camaro enthusiast / collector, I think that i will keep all of my gens, and still hunt for the 2nd and 5th.. once i have every gen.. ill be done buying them until the 6th is out.. and so on and so on..

The average person, may or may not keep his 4th gen... but if they dont, it just means more 4ths out there for the collectors who want them!