government cars

I found a auction that will have a 01 Camaro up for bid. The car has AT PB PS R AC PW and 97,368 miles. Would any of you who have bought a car like this suggest it?

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from the looks of it...its a regular camaro...with all the standard options. and the B4C police package.

94K miles of probable abuse.

not to mention it's probably idled for the equivalent of about 100K miles

it's your call

If it is really cheap (say... $4-$5K at the most), then I'd say it might be worth it.

Otherwise at least I'd look elsewhere for the similar mileage privately owned Z28's with similar mileage that are in the $7-$8K range. Yeah, you might not find 01 for that price, but there are 98-00's already in that range in the private market.

But, like teke184 said, it's your call

from the looks of it...its a regular camaro...with all the standard options. and the B4C police package.

94K miles of probable abuse.

not to mention it's probably idled for the equivalent of about 100K miles

it's your call

Age is the worst thing on an engine, not how many miles or how long its been left running. Also, I can tell you from experience & despite what many people believe, police cars receive no more abuse (IMO, they endure much LESS abuse) than your average jackass on this board would place on a car. Keep in mind that this car belonged to State Troopers, so you can bet that's almost all HIGHWAY miles. The hardest driving this car has probably seen was running some idiot down to issue him/her a traffic citation. Personally, I think it'd be cool to own a B4C (police package) Camaro. Things like that just enrich the car's already-colorful history... :)

Would any of you who have bought a car like this suggest it?



Sure. I highly recommend it, too. A friend of mine combs auctions for gubbermint cars....they are usually in great shape and many are inspector or fire marshall's cars, which are obviously not driven hard. I drive them around, so this is not some blind faith deal.

Either way, nothing wrong with a car that is broken in. I would definitely not buy the old lady's car that barely gets driven over one of these. Unless you want one that suffers the abuse of short trip driving and gets 13 MPGs...I know a few of these cars.

Personally, if it were me, the only way I would buy a retired service vehicle with that number of miles is if I anticipated doing a rebuild in the future. If the price is right and that is what you want, then go for it.

I was thinking of buying it and keeping it for about 2 years then selling it to buy a 02 SS, this way i can save up some money between paying for school and everything else before buying the SS.

An 03 SS what? Ya know Camaros stopped being produced in 02. Are you talking about a Monte Carlo or one of the many other Chevy SS car?

I was thinking of buying it and keeping it for about 2 years then selling it to buy a 03 SS, this way i can save up some money between paying for school and everything else before buying the SS.

There was no 03' SS, the f-body lineup was removed from the game in 2002.

oops mistype. Fixed now

Age is the worst thing on an engine, not how many miles or how long its been left running....

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...than your average jackass on this board

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Oh, you think so? Just goes to show you how ignorant YOU really are. I've worked on cars that were only 4 or 5 years old & pushing 120k-150k. Ran great, clean oil, nothing wrong with them whatsoever. If you perform the proper preventative maintenance on a car at the proper intervals, then your car should last for a long, long time. Hell, I know they're not gasoline engines, but I've got friends who transport goods & perform services with their diesel Rams, Fords, and Chevys. Believe it or not, if you change the oil regularly and , once again peform the necessary maintenance, you can see that engine go 800k+ miles without needing a rebuild.

Now see, you're the fool, because you probably assumed I was implying that mileage has no effect on wear. No, mileage does = wear, but age -- namely with gaskets, seals, and rings -- is a more damaging factor...cracking, losing flexibility, disintegrating, etc. Engine wear is a combination of both age, mileage, and treatment of the vehicle. In regards to my argument, an '01 Z28 is hardly something I'd call "worn out". I own a 93 Z28 with 140k miles, heads/cam/etc., and it still runs great, seals & compression are good. Same with my wife's '98 Trans Am, which is mostly stock, but has 111k miles. I'd hardly think to avoid a 5-6 year old car with 97k miles, especially if it's a retired police vehicle that has been regularly maintained (like ALL departments do)...

As for being a jackass, sure, I was that way many years ago, back when my maturity level equaled yours, but no, now I'm far from it. It's been 5 years since I've even been to the drag strip, and equally long since I've raced anyone on the streets. I don't drive like an idiot, I don't abuse my car, especially so when it requires maintenance, like plugs or an oil change (that + driving hard is probably the source of many people who experience premature engine failure).

Since your post was neither constructive, nor was it even intelligent or creative, I'd suggest refraining from posting garbage like that again. Next time, try being a little more productive on these message boards. Nobody likes a troll...:no:

Dont let mileage fool ya, my 99 SS has 190k of well maintained miles. And it still tags 12.7 with the mods in my sig.

Oh, you think so? Just goes to show you how ignorant YOU really are. I've worked on cars that were only 4 or 5 years old & pushing 120k-150k. Ran great, clean oil, nothing wrong with them whatsoever. If you perform the proper preventative maintenance on a car at the proper intervals, then your car should last for a long, long time. Hell, I know they're not gasoline engines, but I've got friends who transport goods & perform services with their diesel Rams, Fords, and Chevys. Believe it or not, if you change the oil regularly and , once again peform the necessary maintenance, you can see that engine go 800k+ miles without needing a rebuild.

Now see, you're the fool, because you probably assumed I was implying that mileage has no effect on wear. No, mileage does = wear, but age -- namely with gaskets, seals, and rings -- is a more damaging factor...cracking, losing flexibility, disintegrating, etc. Engine wear is a combination of both age, mileage, and treatment of the vehicle. In regards to my argument, an '01 Z28 is hardly something I'd call "worn out". I own a 93 Z28 with 140k miles, heads/cam/etc., and it still runs great, seals & compression are good. Same with my wife's '98 Trans Am, which is mostly stock, but has 111k miles. I'd hardly think to avoid a 5-6 year old car with 97k miles, especially if it's a retired police vehicle that has been regularly maintained (like ALL departments do)...

As for being a jackass, sure, I was that way many years ago, back when my maturity level equaled yours, but no, now I'm far from it. It's been 5 years since I've even been to the drag strip, and equally long since I've raced anyone on the streets. I don't drive like an idiot, I don't abuse my car, especially so when it requires maintenance, like plugs or an oil change (that + driving hard is probably the source of many people who experience premature engine failure).




I'm gonna say i totally disagree with you. More mileage = more wear, its just that simple. Yes i guess time might cause seals to start leaking, but i've never seen anyone blow a motor because their front seal was leaking. They may of ran a motor out of oil because of the leak ,but thats a lack of maintaince. I personally owned a 65 Ford Falcon that had 63k original miles on it. The thing ran like a top and had less oil leaks than my LT1 does and it had never been rebuilt. By your theory the motor would of just blown on start up because of the age.
Also if you think a gov't owned vehicle is gonna be in better shape than a privately owned vehicle you're crazy. If a pig is driving that Camaro, what does it matter to him if he floors it every chance he gets.? He doesn't have to worry about getting pulled over for speeding, and he doesn't have to pay for anything if the car breaks. You have a privately owned vehicle where the owner has to pay for damage he does to his own car and speeding tickets for driving aggressively, he'll be less likely to beat on the car. How many people do you think a Cop pulls over in a day? i bet everytime he pulled someone over that car went WOT until he caught up with them.

To the person that is considering buying that car. Remember to factor in that, i believe they drill a lot of holes in the interior to mount stuff in those cars. I'm pretty sure they just ruin the dash by mounting stuff to it.

Yes i am aware of the holes. From the look of the dash there isn't very much room to mound stuff, Maybe directly above the CD player but thats about it. They probable bolt most of it directly to the floor.