Dodge Challenger Super Stock (pics)

http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2006/10/283671396_d79b7af776_o.jpg

Dodge Challenger Super Stock
http://www.jalopnik.com/photogallery/ChallengerSuperStock01/

Anybody know anything about this car?

All I can say is OUCH!. Hope Chevrolet has more than just the convertible up their sleeve.

Here's a video. BTW, I see B-pillars.

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/?action=view&current=CIMG1069.flv

Well, thats just about the most badass thing Ive seen all day... Props to Dodge. :)

Sweeeet...Nice find! One link to the video I found was down. Hmm, the 6.4L the Mopar folks have been talking about? Supercharged 6.1L?

Oh yeah. That's it. I'm buying a new Challenger when they come out.

crap.....come on Camaro SS with a LS7

The more I see this car, the more I dislike it. :shrug:

gotta be SEMA. Notice that it's in Las Vegas?

Er, yeah, just look at some of the other links...

It doesn't look that cool to me? :shrug:

Wow, that is one sweet car.

wow, that thing makes those Magnums look tiny
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2006/10/283671740_98aae48ab4_o.jpg

It doesn't look that cool to me? :shrug:
Doesn't do anything for me either.

Doesn't do anything for me either.
Me neither.

I think the point is that Chrysler is already framing the Challenger's image & setting the stage. It's moving away from just being a car on a rotunda.

Looks cool. :thumb:

While I agree with Guy on the intent, this car is not very attractive to me (and WAY too damned big).

While I agree with Guy on the intent, this car is not very attractive to me (and WAY too damned big).

Yeah, but to me that isn't the point. It has been 10 months since the Camaro was unveiled. An alternate glimpse of possibilities would be perfect right now, and not just a convertible. This makes the Challenger seem fresh while the Camaro will start to date itself if allowed to sit as it is for too long.

If that car didn't do anything for me, first I'd check for my pulse, then if I found one, I'd shoot myself in the head.

That is SWEET!!! Props to Dodge. :thumb:

It's alright. I will agree that you cannot let you car sit unreleased and unchanged, but maybe the convertible will indeed be enough?

Also, from what I have been reading, there is atleast one surprise car coming to the auto show circuit, on top of a car that is EXTREMELY important called the CTS. It is important to keep it fresh and keep the public wanting more, but is it worth it at the expense of your own future product portfolio?

wow, that thing makes those Magnums look tiny
http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2006/10/283671740_98aae48ab4_o.jpg


Holy crap...it's King Kong!!!:eek: :confused: :eek:

keep in mind that it does have big racing slicks in that pic ^

I agree that dodge is doing a lot better introducing the challenger. And we've seen the exact same camaro for like a year now..... sweet.

That thing is HUGE!!! No thanks, Im Camaro all the way.

Makes the Magnum and 300C look tiny.... :eek:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/CIMG1081.jpg

I agree that dodge is doing a lot better introducing the challenger. And we've seen the exact same camaro for like a year now..... sweet.

That's not true, we've seen the Saleen 5th gen and the Transformers variant in Hot Rod, and we will be seeing a convertible 5th gen this January. Will the Challenger have a convertible model on display?

One of these going to be the top engine choice?

392 Technical Specifications
To help celebrate the 50th anniversary of the legendary engine, Mopar is launching an all-new 392 HEMI crate motor for a new generation of performance enthusiasts. This engine-built with all new components-is a complete engine assembly from the throttle body to the oil pan, and cranks out 525 horsepower in it most potent form.

Three different versions of the new 392 are available from Mopar:
• P5153604 392 HEMI Crate Engine – Carbureted, 540 horsepower and 490 lb.-ft of torque
• P5253605 392 HEMI Crate Engine – SEFI, 525 horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. of torque
• P5153603 392 HEMI Long Block HEMI Crate Engine

Makes the Magnum and 300C look tiny.... :eek:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/CIMG1081.jpg

Look at the new Dodge Challenger as a Camaro or Mustang, and you're either going to be turned off or shocked into disbelief at it's size.

BUT.....

Look at it as the successor to the Chevelle SS, 2nd gen Road Runners, or even a 69-71 GTO, and it's a whole different ball game. :cool:


Because this idea hasn't been around for over 30 years (or 20 if you want to include the mid-80s Monte Carlo SS), I think it's going to be a whole new concept to 75% of the people here of having a V8 powered, rear wheel drive, brand new out-of-the-showroom, gen-u-ine 2 door muscle car...... that actually has a back seat that can fit adults and a trunk that can fit more than a backpack.

IMHO it's going to be very hard for many people to believe rear drive performance coupes can come in more than 1 size, but I think they'll manage. :)



BTW.... I see at least 3 differences in the dragster's front end over the concept, so I'm guessing that's the production version. :cool:

:barf: I thought I was looking at some ugly car from the 70s, and that paint scheme didn't help either.

:barf: I thought I was looking at some ugly car from the 70s, and that paint scheme didn't help either.

You guys need to think a bit deeper...it is not the fact of what it looks like, it is the fact that it is there. It shows progress. It makes people say "Camaro? Huh? Oh yeah...I saw something about that last January, but haven't heard much since."

Ok Guy, I give what are the difference? The only thing I think I notice is the lowered fog lights.

Good points Guy, I can see a few differences between the two. They need to get rid of that goofy hood scoop on the drag car. They should have painted that car in Sox and Martin colors (yeah I know they ran Plymouths but still)

I kinda like it, but that's because I like the originals from 34 years ago.

What I want to know is, where are all the "anti-retro" people who bashed and smashed the Mustang because it was "close" to the 1967/1968 Mustang design?!?!
The Challenger looks more like the original than the 2005 Mustang did by far IMO. Save the chrome bumper and lower valence, the profile shot has to be a dead ringer for the original.

I personally think that will be what keeps most non-Mopar loyals from interest in this car. The loyalists will love it no matter what. I would personally like to see more sharp edges and a more modern look - NOT changing the overall proportions or profile, just "sharpening" them a bit.

Oh well, I'd take it if they wanted to give it to me!

This car does nothing for me at all. The regular concept did nothing for me and this concept is the same. I love the original Challenger but this car is going to be outclassed by the Camaro, big time. The Challenger is too far stuck in the past.............period.

To each their own, I dig the hell out of the Challenger. Before it's release there was no way I would have contemplated NOT getting the Camaro, now I honestly don't know.

I would personally like to see more sharp edges and a more modern look - NOT changing the overall proportions or profile, just "sharpening" them a bit.next gen.;)

To each their own, I dig the hell out of the Challenger. Before it's release there was no way I would have contemplated NOT getting the Camaro, now I honestly don't know.
I think it'd be interesting to do an age poll of who likes or dislikes the Challenger and what age they are.
I figure a greater proportion of older people would like it than younger, but that's just a crazy hypothesis of mine.

I love the original Challenger, and hate the new one. I guess that if I wanted a 1970 Challenger, I would buy a 1970 Challenger.

The Challenger SS does nothing for me.

And no, the carbureted 391 Hemi is not going to be a factory option -- it's a crate motor.

The Challenger SS does nothing for me.

Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!!

:mad::mad: "Super Stock"...NOT SS!!!! :mad::mad:

Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Wrong!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!! Naughty!!

:mad::mad: "Super Stock"...NOT SS!!!! :mad::mad:
Does that mean that I have to always refer to you as Jason Debler, even though your initials are JD? Can I call you JasonD, or is that going to make you mad too?

Just drawing a comparison -- it's an abbreviation. Get over it! :p

Saying "SS" in reference to Super Stock here is highly confusing here where 99.9% of the time, SS is reference for Super Sport.

Saying "Challenger SS" is almost like saying "Mustang GTO".

Doesn't upset me, I was busting your nuts for fun, but keep saying it and I surely won't be the last to call you out on it. :D

Wasn't talking about the carbed version, talking about the EFI one. Has the power level of the rumored new Hemi:

P5253605 392 HEMI Crate Engine – SEFI, 525 horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. of torque

That is the coolest car! I love superstock cars knew chevy would never do one so I never suggested it. Way to go Dodge! :D :bow:

I love the original Challenger, and hate the new one. I guess that if I wanted a 1970 Challenger, I would buy a 1970 Challenger.

The Challenger SS does nothing for me.



A-yep, complete lack of imagination. How hard is it to take a bodystyle from the 70's, paint it in "race car" style, then act like it's something new?

I mean congrats to their marketing department for getting that thing out there but from a real creativity standpoint it's worthless.

That is badass! Of course I drive a Magnum SRT8, so size wouldn't discourage me. A 392 Hemi that puts out over 500 hp, and a T56 Tremec. Whats not to like?

Whats not to like?

4200 lbs.

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/330/11547.jpg

4200 lbs.

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/330/11547.jpg

this is a concept on a modified LX chassis. the production version will be on the SHORTER/LIGHTER LY chassis. i'm not saying the car will lose a ton of weight, but it wont be that much.

Ok Guy, I give what are the difference? The only thing I think I notice is the lowered fog lights.

1. There is now a character line (crease) that wraps around the bumper to the lower grille that wasn't on the original concept.

2. The fog lights are now slightly recessed. The concepts aren't.

3. The inboard headlights are different.

4. The textured part of the grille is now a little more recessed from the "bullseye" part that also outlines the opening.

5. And finally, there's more black under the grille on the new model. Either the grille opening's been lowered or reshaped, or it has been moved farther inward of the bumper over the concept (which makes more sense for impact standards) giving more area to paint black.

I love the original Challenger, and hate the new one. I guess that if I wanted a 1970 Challenger, I would buy a 1970 Challenger....

Doubt it.

The things were rust buckets. If you find a solid one today, it's going to carry a steep price tag. Find a one in mint condition, and it's going to cost so much you aren't going to be driving it regularly. Then there's finding parts for the thing. :eek:

Doubt it.

The things were rust buckets. If you find a solid one today, it's going to carry a steep price tag. Find a one in mint condition, and it's going to cost so much you aren't going to be driving it regularly. Then there's finding parts for the thing. :eek:
Guy, it's unlike you to totally miss my point.

I don't want a 1970 Challenger. And so I won't be purchasing one, regardless of its year of manufacture.

If Dodge wants to pique my interest, they need to build something new, not rebuild something old. And yes, I know they're not identical, and I know there's a warranty, blah blah blah. None of that is important to me with respect to the point I'm trying to make.

Call it Heritage, call it Retro, fine. Yeah, there are lots of design throwbacks to the 1969. But the Camaro concept is one of the most futuristic-looking vehicles I've seen that's actually intended for production, and that's one of the things I love most about it.

I'm glad Dodge is building the Challenger -- I think there's a market for it, and I'm sure it will sell. But I am certainly not going to be purchasing one.

For those of you that think it's too big (I agree), what do you think of the Camaro concept's size?

Personally I think the Camaro looks too big as well.

Personally I think the Camaro looks too big as well.

I'd prefer a slightly smaller than concept Camaro as well.

For those of you that think it's too big (I agree), what do you think of the Camaro concept's size?

Personally I think the Camaro looks too big as well.

considering it's only slightly larger than a first gen.. and it is shorter than a 4th gen.. i don't think it's really too big...

considering it's only slightly larger than a first gen.. and it is shorter than a 4th gen.. i don't think it's really too big...
I think the width is what killed it. Just about 80 inches is a little too big. But from what we're hearing, both cars will be smaller than their concepts right? So we're essentially arguing about nothing.

I like this thing. Looks kinda cool and sounds mean. Ive gotta believe the car will get smaller for production. The bad 70's paint job was a mistake though. The pastel easter egg colors are horrible!

I kinda like it, but that's because I like the originals from 34 years ago.

What I want to know is, where are all the "anti-retro" people who bashed and smashed the Mustang because it was "close" to the 1967/1968 Mustang design?!?!
The Challenger looks more like the original than the 2005 Mustang did by far IMO. Save the chrome bumper and lower valence, the profile shot has to be a dead ringer for the original.

I personally think that will be what keeps most non-Mopar loyals from interest in this car. The loyalists will love it no matter what. I would personally like to see more sharp edges and a more modern look - NOT changing the overall proportions or profile, just "sharpening" them a bit.

Oh well, I'd take it if they wanted to give it to me!

Are you saying you dont like the current retro Mustang? I think Ford did a good job.

For those that think this is a pointless excursion for Chrysler, take another look. This comes straight from the heart of some of Mopars greatest racing lore, the Sox and Martin Super Stockers. Akin to the Roger Penske Trans Am Camaros.

THAT is the level of heritage we're talking about here.

Those old farts who swore off fuel injection in the 80s, and have been hoarding Hemi parts ever since, just sat up and took notice that maybe Chrysler hasnt COMPLETELY forgotten its roots. Sure, its not going to appeal to everyone, particularly not people on this board, apparently, but there is a very large demographic that probably WILL like it.

For reference.

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery/soxmartin/

I think that Super Stock concept is amazing. The colors are pretty cool, too. It would be a heck of a magnet at a car show or any cruise night, thats for sure.

..As for the Challenger, I will definitely be looking at them when the time comes to order, mostly for practicality reasons. I'm a family of five people, three of which are growing longer legs each and every year. So, if the Challenger ends up being something the size of the old Charger or Road runner, so much the better. We'll still be looking at the Camaro, but having a true five passenger machine will mean a lot come friday night cruise-time.