What do i need to lower the car?

Do i just need lowering springs, to lower my car?

Seems overly simple, if that's all i need.

Are these good enough, http://www.slickcar.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=1646 .

Can anyone recomend a cheap, fairly good brand?

Changing the springs will lower the car but will also compromise the handling and traction. Upgrading your shocks to work with the new springs is a good idea. Also if you're into drag racing, lowering the car promotes wheel hop. Adding lower control arm relocation brackets will correct the alignment of your lower control arms.

Eibach springs are worth the money. BMR has a good name, and very reputable. THere's another brand but I can't remember what it was.

You'll need LCA relocation brackets and an ADJ PanHard Bar. To reclaim lost LCA angles and the ADJ PHB to center the rear end.

I dunno so much about "comprimising" handling... My car handles like it's on RAILS now. I also have the Bilstein Re-valved shox. I also agree w/ switching the shox, you're in there anyway, on the fronts you have to take the spring off the shock... mind as well replace it unless you really feel like doing it AGAIN..:shrug:

The rear springs and shox are cake to do. the fronts are a bit more involved. Check my link in sig. I have a shock/spring swap writeup in there on page 2.

As far as parts for good prices.... (you get what you pay for, keep that in mind)... Check these links.

www.thunderracing.com
www.tbyrnemotorsports.com
www.ls1speed.com
www.texas-speed.com
www.afterthoughtsauto.com
www.umiperformance.com
www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog
www.futralmotorsports.com
www.bmrfabrication.com
www.livernoismotorsports.com

Thanks man. Yeah for now i am just going for appearance. No funds for performance yet. Anyhow i only have the v6. Probably will put the v8 in there at some point.

I looked at your cardomain posting. The look of your car is pretty much what i'm after for mine.

What are the lowering specs on your car? Where did you get your lowering kit incl/ shox and how much was it. If you don't mind me asking.

And while we are at it, can you give me the specs on your wheels? I am interested in some Ruff racing wheels but i am unsure of the details i need for the wheels.

Thanks.

:rolleyes:

What do you "need"? Springs. If you want to do it all wrong and have a handling and riding mess

What do you need to do it properly? The correct springs (and many aren't), shocks valved to match those springs because the shocks are spring dampers, and an adjustable PHB since lowering the car results in the body mount moving relative to the axle mount and effectively shortens the PHB length shifting the axle to the right in the car.

And off all those companies, I carry the biggest choice in parts, and also specialize in handling and suspension above all.

Sweet thanks.

Ok i'm looking to lower my 99 v6. What would i need from your store?

Keep in mind that this is for appearance only. I will not be racing this car. At least not for a long time.

Do you drive the car? Do you somehow leave the suspension at home when you do? Then your suspension is at work at all times. You don't need race parts. You do need the PHB (starting @ $99), some decent springs (not Ebay specials, $169 springs are worth what you pay for them), and if you are wise some shocks to control them. Do you have to do the shocks? No, but most folks who don't live to regret it since what makes the car worse than it really is to start with is the stock shocks, even on stock springs.

Wow you're kind of high strung, huh? Just kidding.

How about some specific advice please? I'm a newb i don't know what i'm doing. :)

It's a bit expensive, but I used Air Ride Technologies' Shockwaves in front and CoolRide kit on the rear, topped off with the LevelPro system, and I absolutely looooove it. Took me a bit to get the adjustments just right, but now I can push a button on the dash and raise/lower/adjust ride quality if I wish. www.ridetech.com, if you'd like to visit. :)

It's a bit expensive, but I used Air Ride Technologies' Shockwaves in front and CoolRide kit on the rear, topped off with the LevelPro system, and I absolutely looooove it. Took me a bit to get the adjustments just right, but now I can push a button on the dash and raise/lower/adjust ride quality if I wish. www.ridetech.com, if you'd like to visit. :)

OUCH... Just looked at that site. A little bit too expensive for me. :) Thanks for the headsup though.

Well, specifics are a two way street, and I can't give you any base on a paragraph on a forum. :)

Anyone that tells you they can give you a solid setup without speaking to you is.... well, I just won't do it.

It's a bit expensive, but I used Air Ride Technologies' Shockwaves in front and CoolRide kit on the rear, topped off with the LevelPro system, and I absolutely looooove it. Took me a bit to get the adjustments just right, but now I can push a button on the dash and raise/lower/adjust ride quality if I wish. www.ridetech.com, if you'd like to visit. :)

But does it adjust the alignment when you lower and raise from one height to another? Just like coilovers are great for adjustability, but when you change the ride height your alignment goes off with it.

But does it adjust the alignment when you lower and raise from one height to another? Just like coilovers are great for adjustability, but when you change the ride height your alignment goes off with it.

I haven't noticed too much of a change...yet. She does need the front end aligned (needed it before I installed the system last month) but is currently in the shop for an engine swap. I've noticed a pretty fair amount of negative camber at full drop but I'm not able to drive near that low due to how I mounted the level sensors (sensor mounting is quite a bit easier on a Camaro than on my TA). They've got a decent question-and-answer forum on their website; you could hop over there and ask for Darren.:)

and these guys are right, dbacs, shocks are extremely important! :)

Ok cool. Thanks for the headsup. I will save my pennies for the whole shabang. :) Shocks and coils. No automated lowering, yet though. Maybe one of the last additions, later on down the line.

Yeah, the auto level isn't for everyone. But I work there so I got a sweet deal :)

Sam Strano---you're kind of a jag off.

This guy is asking a basic question and you're giving him a hard time and putting rolling eyes on your post.

Not everyone is an expert like you and if you want to sell stuff on here you need to treat people with respect regardless of why they want springs or what they know. Offer helpful suggestions but don't be a smart ass.

I'm in the market to get some springs and now I know I won't be buying any from you.

But does it adjust the alignment when you lower and raise from one height to another? Just like coilovers are great for adjustability, but when you change the ride height your alignment goes off with it.

Just an update: yes, it does mess with the alignment. But you're supposed to play with it until you get a good setting and decide what ride height you'd like it at, and have it aligned to that setting. Because you're not going to drive it far/fast at extreme compression/extension, alignment at those settings shouldn't make much difference. Just lettin' you know! :)

Sam Strano---you're kind of a jag off.

This guy is asking a basic question and you're giving him a hard time and putting rolling eyes on your post.

Not everyone is an expert like you and if you want to sell stuff on here you need to treat people with respect regardless of why they want springs or what they know. Offer helpful suggestions but don't be a smart ass.

I'm in the market to get some springs and now I know I won't be buying any from you.


Fine. I really don't want to deal with anyone who doesn't care about details that are important because when you make poor decisions based on ignorance, I won't be the one responsible.

I didn't say *ANYTHING* out of line in this thread. Why you think I'm a "jag-off", I'm not sure. And I don't really care because you are too short sighted to actually read what I wrote and realize that I *CAN'T* offer helpful suggestions because there is a HUGE LACK OF INFORMATION on which to base such things.

Fine. I really don't want to deal with anyone who doesn't care about details that are important because when you make poor decisions based on ignorance, I won't be the one responsible.

I didn't say *ANYTHING* out of line in this thread. Why you think I'm a "jag-off", I'm not sure. And I don't really care because you are too short sighted to actually read what I wrote and realize that I *CAN'T* offer helpful suggestions because there is a HUGE LACK OF INFORMATION on which to base such things.

Its your attitude, man. I find it hard to believe that you could not give me advice based on questions like, how are you going to be driving your car? Are you going to be racing it? Is this for show? etc...etc.

It just doesn't make sense, that you can't even give some advice. If you don't have any information to base your advice on, you should have asked me questions so you can determine what is missing and what i would need to "properly" put in lowering springs.

You get an F+ for customer service skills. :( You have a reputation to uphold/create so you could try to just try to tone down your anger or frustration.

Just for an example, you say that you don't have enough information to give me a proper estimate. What kind of information do you need? I will give you that information if possible. How's that? Will that work? See how easy that is?

Its your attitude, man. I find it hard to believe that you could not give me advice based on questions like, how are you going to be driving your car? Are you going to be racing it? Is this for show? etc...etc.

It just doesn't make sense, that you can't even give some advice. If you don't have any information to base your advice on, you should have asked me questions so you can determine what is missing and what i would need to "properly" put in lowering springs.

You get an F+ for customer service skills. :( You have a reputation to uphold/create so you could try to just try to tone down your anger or frustration.

Just for an example, you say that you don't have enough information to give me a proper estimate. What kind of information do you need? I will give you that information if possible. How's that? Will that work? See how easy that is?

Your going to have to call him. All of his advice is top secret and cannot be posted on a public message board. :lol:

Your going to have to call him. All of his advice is top secret and cannot be posted on a public message board. :lol:

Ah hahahah. :) lmao. Yeah its on a need to know basis. But if he told me he'd have to kill me. :)

Ah hahahah. :) lmao. Yeah its on a need to know basis. But if he told me he'd have to kill me. :)

I'm pretty sure its because its info that he has learned over the years and would rather not just give it away to unpaying customers. I don't blame him. He just comes off the wrong way to some folks sometimes, and may even go a little overboard when it comes to doing suspension for just a regular guy driving to work, etc., but thats his passion and his business so its expected. Just give him a ring and tell him your needs and your budget. I'm sure he'll be happy to help.

I'm pretty sure its because its info that he has learned over the years and would rather not just give it away to unpaying customers. I don't blame him. He just comes off the wrong way to some folks sometimes, and may even go a little overboard when it comes to doing suspension for just a regular guy driving to work, etc., but thats his passion and his business so its expected. Just give him a ring and tell him your needs and your budget. I'm sure he'll be happy to help.

Oh ok. That makes tons more sense. I am sorry if i stepped out of line. If he just explained that is the reason he cannot post it here, i would have left it at that.

Unfortunately i am hearing impared so i cannot call him. Maybe i'll have someone else call for me.

Oh ok. That makes tons more sense. I am sorry if i stepped out of line. If he just explained that is the reason he cannot post it here, i would have left it at that.

Unfortunately i am hearing impared so i cannot call him. Maybe i'll have someone else call for me.

email him explaining that you are hearing impared. I'm sure he'll work with you then over email, it will just take more time. :cool:

email him explaining that you are hearing impared. I'm sure he'll work with you then over email, it will just take more time. :cool:

Ok thanks. I will do that. It will let me apologize again too.