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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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GM cutting costs in interesting and different ways

i figure this sorta kinda fits into the "automotive news" section


by installing solar cells on top of warehouses GM expects to save 10% off of energy costs per year.

General Motors liked the idea of using the sun to power its buildings. But until recently, one immutable economic fact held G.M. back: The upfront costs were simply too high to justify the ultimate payoff.

G.M. is not alone. Even solar energy’s biggest fans concede that the high investment costs have kept companies from pursuing what is arguably the cleanest, most renewable and least politically sensitive energy source around.

But now, G.M. and a small but growing number of other companies and municipalities are getting solar energy from systems installed by others. Even though the installations are right on their own roofs, they buy the electricity much as they would from a utility’s grid. And because the companies that paid for the systems will get a steady income, they can provide power from the sun at competitive electricity rates.

Since June, the roof of G.M.’s parts warehouse in Cucamonga, Calif., has been host to a photovoltaic array with the ability to generate as much as 1.5 million kilowatt hours of electricity a year. The installation, which G.M. expects will provide half of the building’s electricity, cost G.M. nothing.

A solar developer called Developing Energy Efficient Roof Systems — commonly called Deers — bought the equipment with money it raised from private financiers. Deers and its investors own the cells; G.M. signed a long-term contract to purchase the solar-generated electricity from them, at a discount to the prevailing rate for electricity in the region.

These days, that rate is 9 cents to 10 cents a kilowatt hour; G.M. expects that the solar system will reduce its overall electricity costs by 10 percent a year.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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When I was at the Milford Proving Grounds two weeks ago, I noticed an array of solar cells. I'm not sure how long they've been there, but I thought it was cool.

Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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That would be quite a savings!
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Yes but how long before GM's begins to benefit from its outlay for the solar panels?

I kinda wish it was a mandatory building requirement to have solar panels installed on every new home... that way we wouldn't need to wonder whether we need this energy saving technology... it will be mandatory. Costly, but energy is becoming more and more scarce...
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SSbaby
Yes but how long before GM's begins to benefit from its outlay for the solar panels?

I kinda wish it was a mandatory building requirement to have solar panels installed on every new home... that way we wouldn't need to wonder whether we need this energy saving technology... it will be mandatory. Costly, but energy is becoming more and more scarce...
didn't RTFA? (or even the first post?)

The installation, which G.M. expects will provide half of the building’s electricity, cost G.M. nothing.
they buy the electricity at below market rate from an outside company that installs the things for free. they'll start to save 10% off of their energy costs instantly.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SSbaby
Yes but how long before GM's begins to benefit from its outlay for the solar panels?

I kinda wish it was a mandatory building requirement to have solar panels installed on every new home... that way we wouldn't need to wonder whether we need this energy saving technology... it will be mandatory. Costly, but energy is becoming more and more scarce...
I got an idea...

Let's make it mandatory for your home first.
Let us know how it goes.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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didn't RTFA? (or even the first post?)



they buy the electricity at below market rate from an outside company that installs the things for free. they'll start to save 10% off of their energy costs instantly.
Sorry, just didn't understand how it all worked, even after reading the article?

It seems too good to be true? I'd still like to know when the other company starts to make money.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Re: GM cutting costs in interesting and different ways

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Sorry, just didn't understand how it all worked, even after reading the article?

It seems too good to be true? I'd still like to know when the other company starts to make money.
right away it's saving 10% on energy costs
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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right away it's saving 10% on energy costs
No, I mean when the installer (DEERS) makes money on the work performed at GM.

Obviously a long term contract is designed to favour the vendor. So how long?
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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It seems too good to be true? I'd still like to know when the other company starts to make money.
Since they have a long term contract I'd guess they would start making a little money right away. but that would all depend on how the equipment was finaced. It might take 10+ years to pay those solar cells off.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Not a bad idea, cut costs where you can. Its much better to see it done in those kind of ways then just closing plants and laying off workers.
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