Who's got the fastest n/a Lt1...

Stroked or not, just n/a. Anyone know???

Scott

Vince McCauley has the fastest NA LT1 right now....9.93@135 going thru the traps backwards (wrecked the car). Obviously it has alot more in it.

Steve Quinn and Joe Overton are in the low low 10s and will be in the 9s soon.

All VERY impressive cars!

Jason

Do you happen to know what Vince McCauley had done? When and where did he run?

By the way, that is very impressive. I want to run a 9.93 backwards. hehe

Did he total his car, I hope not.

Scott

Jason he did it forward :D but Sammy Vedros from South Louisiana ran 9.81 134 with a 1.29 shortime in his 396 LT1 NA. Car is still not sorted out its hitting revlimiter at 1200 ft. With that fixed and good weather I'm looking fo 9.50's or 60's. I run what I believe to be one of the fastest stockhead,stockbottomend,na Lt1's I ran 11.66. Frank95z

Vince has a 383 LT1 (carbed) motor, AFR 22x heads, solid roller built by Fast Times in Chicago.

I heard Sammy was running well, but I didnt know he was going that well :) That is impressive!

Frank, *shrug* I dont know.....Vince has been a good friend of mine for years, he said Billy spun before the traps. ???

Jason

i dont feel like digging up his old post but apparently the car hit some a slick spot on the track and it spun around, hit the wall, flipped over and went through the traps backwards

the car was salvaged i know that, but i dont know what needed to be fixed

No my post was meant to read Sammy did it forward does that count:D When I said he did it forward I meant Sammy. Frank95z

Frank,

You have quite a way to go before you have the fastest stock head/bottom end LT-1.

No offence meant.

Best Regards,

Daren

True Dat Daren.:D

Originally posted by GUMP
Frank,

You have quite a way to go before you have the fastest stock head/bottom end LT-1.

No offence meant.

Best Regards,

Daren

Just out of curiousity, if he does not have it then who does? THat is n/a?

Scott

Im pretty sure Gump is referring to the NHRA Super Stockers. They run some killer ET's with "stock heads/cam" and longblock

1.29 60 ft... wow i wonder what me a quinn would run with that 60 ft.

I'm thinking Angelo DiTocco with his SS/JA Firebird that just set a nat'l et record at the Dutch Classic. He went a 10.00 @ 131.68.
Knew just watching that run it was on a pass. Very sweet looking ride as well.

I said one of the fastest.And I'm talking air conditioned,stock heads (like never been off the car),stock bottomend,street car. I've worked on NHRA stocker heads before and If you think they are stock. I'll say the fast ones are not stock I promise. I know for sure that the SS/JA that was mentioned do not have stock heads. Daren how quick did you run with stockheads na or who do you know that has run quicker than 11.60's na. I'm just curious. Tell us a bit about you're combo. Frank95z

Frank95z,

Projectz28 is not to far from you. He is doing 11.80's all day with salad shooters. His motor is stock except for cam. Right down to the stock tb. Stock suspension too. 10 bolt rear also. He's working on tuning now and will be hitting some low numbers. The heads on the car have never been touched. You maybe one of the fastest but there is alot of guys running them numbers.

I'm with you on that Joe, it snowing here now so looks like I'm done till spring. Looking at maybe going to the Madman TA and a W 28 over the winter to try and get some more hook.

Bad97ss I've been following Projectz28 also.Its a real good car and well thought out. I notice that you said he had a stock 10bolt. Well when I added a 12bolt I slowed down .07 because it weighs 70#s more than the 10bolt,but I changed to the stronger rearend because I bracket race every other weekend and need the reliablility. Also in the past when i've posted times I've had equal amounts of people saying no big thing I could do it and some saying no way buddy i have ported heads and I only run 12.20's:D. Being na and dependent on weather if I can get some good air this year or early next year i'll run 11.40's or 50's just like my car sits right now. Frank95z

Steve, sorry to hear about the weather.I just knew you were gonna pop out a 9 before it got to bad. I'm gonna try one more time before I winterize mine..Hopefully the track hasn't gone away to bad..shoot me a e-mail sometime. Running what you have so far with only 370 ci. and with the heads your using is just awesome.. much respect from this corner:bow:

vince has 215 rr heads

Frank95z I know how you feel when people tell you, that your car motor is not stock. Projectz28 goes throw this all the time. People knocking what he's got. LT1's are pretty good motors stock. People just have to know how to make them work. What are you running for tuning? Projectz28 ran in the 11's with stock tuning. Now is working on tuning to get more out of it. As for the 10 bolt we beefed it up. Welded the tubes, rca's,and girdle. Also little less backlash. Slowed up with 4.10 in it so thinking about going back to 3.73. Hope thinks work out for you in getting in the low 11's.

Originally posted by LT1Z28
vince has 215 rr heads

No he doesnt....they are either 220 or 227 23* AFRs

Jason

My car was a factory AC-delete car. I have raced it since new. When I started I was on a tight budget. The motor had zero miles, so I decided to run it in Pure Stock first. I only ran it at one quarter mile race and it ran 12.8's. I ran eighth mile races a lot and had a best of 7.94 with zero internal modifications.
The next year I installed a cam and valve springs, new rings and bearings and ran 11.32 and 7.10.
These times are by no way the "fastest" that anyone has run, but they are the ones that I recorded a few years back.
The motors that I run now are still not that far from stock.

Best Regards,

Daren

Great job Daren. You went from 12.80's to 11.30's with cam addition thats impressive to say the least. Frank95z

That is awsome Darren. What cam were you running those times with, if you don't minid me asking.

Scott

Originally posted by GUMP
My car was a factory AC-delete car. I have raced it since new. When I started I was on a tight budget. The motor had zero miles, so I decided to run it in Pure Stock first. I only ran it at one quarter mile race and it ran 12.8's. I ran eighth mile races a lot and had a best of 7.94 with zero internal modifications.
The next year I installed a cam and valve springs, new rings and bearings and ran 11.32 and 7.10.
These times are by no way the "fastest" that anyone has run, but they are the ones that I recorded a few years back.
The motors that I run now are still not that far from stock.

Best Regards,

Daren

you ran a 12.8 with no mods at all, stock exhaust manfolds, stock exhaust... what mph and 60 foot?

Like I said, no internal modifications. In Pure Stock you can run the exhaust one of two ways. Open factory manifolds or headers thru mufflers. I chose the latter.
The car had a pretty good suspension (bolt ons only) and had high 1.6 sixty foot times on 9" slicks.
There is a gentleman that is running 12.50's with a Camaro in Pure Stock at most of the Division 9 races. I believe that his car even has the factory rear still in it! And I think that he drives it to the track!!
The cam that I swapped in is a Lunati grind with 256/266 duration @ .050 with factory lift. This cam is by no means a street cam, but then you guys could probably make just as much horse power with more lift and less duration.
My point in posting here, is as always, to point out how good the factory parts really are (except the rear axle).

Best Regards,

Daren

ok i wasnt aware of the rules. nice times

Now I get it you're car is a stock eliminator car. My friends down here Pat Joffrion,Jimmy Hidalgo,Jarod Grainer and Phil Acosta have at one time run that cam in their stockers. But unless you're running backcut valves,decked heads and the other stocker tricks;) on you're heads you're leaving some et on the table. Gump if you consider stocker heads as stock;) then Woodrow went 10.50's with his. Different people have different guidlines but I don't consider decked heads,or massaged valve jobs as stock heads. I have a set of Woodrow heads and thin head gaskets but when I put them on I'll not consider my heads stock. But thats just me.:D If you're running stock-stock heads e-mail me and I might be able to hook you up with something better.Just a guess are you Daren Poole Adams. Frank95z

Daren Poole-Adams, yes that would be me. I have raced Stock Eliminator for a few years now.
I talk to Woodro from time to time. Jarrod is a good guy. The others I only know of.
All that know me also know that I am hard headed! I have chosen to learn one step at a time.
When I ran Pure Stock the motor was as it came from the factory. When I ran D/SA for the first time the cam/springs was the only change to the motor. I have since built better motors, but I choose to only make one change at a time. I like to know which modifications really work.
I also have a stack of transmissions, converters, tires, wheels, and a ton of suspension parts.


Daren

Daren good to meet you. This is an interesting thread. If I may ask when you added cam and springs only, at D/sa weight how quick did you go with that change and a stock shortblock and heads. Now I suppose you had the big converter,gears,turbo 350 at that time right. And were you using the stock computer or dfi when you made the change. I have access to a stocker cam,heads,throttle body,etc. and I was wondering where would be my starting point. If you feel a bite strange sharing info on the web e-mail me. Frank Benoit

Originally posted by BAD97SS
Slowed up with 4.10 in it so thinking about going back to 3.73. Hope thinks work out for you in getting in the low 11's.

i think if brian makes soem mods to get a little more air into tehcar he will end up keeping the gears.
the cam is not too radical by any stretch, but it seems to be a bit much for the otehrwise stock motor. from what i have seen about LT1's he woudl benefit greatly from a massaged set of heads.
we shoudl prolly also mention that brian;s car is very much a full weight ride. it still has leather seats, a/c, and power eveything. only thing that was off the car when he started runnign in teh 11's was teh front sway bar.

later
tim

Hey Frank95z, just out of curosity, do you have any videos of you car. I would like to hear how it idles. I am going to do a cam install for a friend of mine and i told him that you have a great cam. He just wants to hear how it idles.

Scott

The only video I have on the web that I know of is on page 3 of this message board under Video's from Thundershootout. Mine is Frank95z's 11.69 pass. I don't remember if you can hear the idle but you can see the effect of the cam:D The cam idles smooth with a little lope and for me it has produced good power. Good Luck Frank95z

Originally posted by Frank95z
The only video I have on the web that I know of is on page 3 of this message board under Video's from Thundershootout. Mine is Frank95z's 11.69 pass. I don't remember if you can hear the idle but you can see the effect of the cam:D The cam idles smooth with a little lope and for me it has produced good power. Good Luck Frank95z

The cam that I have has very little lope after it warms up. When the car is cold, especially in the winter, it lopes pretty hard. the guy who I am doing the install for was curious in the comparison of your cam to mine. He wants a little more lope than I have but the same power and driveability.

Scott