a couple questions about ordering vs buying off the lot

frusciante fan
10-17-2006, 02:43 AM
if i were to order the new camaro vs buying one off the lot, would i still be subject to the dealer's price increase over the MSRP?

how much more does it cost to order through chevrolet vs buying one through a dealer?

i plan on ordering mine so i can get almost exactly what i want.

Dave89IROC
10-17-2006, 07:27 AM
if the dealer charges over MSRP, find a different dealer

GM trys to discourage this as much as they can, but has no real control over it


ordering vs off the lot
any price hike or rebates will be on both

BitchinCamaro
10-17-2006, 08:29 AM
Order it if that’s what you want. Go to Chevrolet.com (not yet obviously) and configure your car with the "build it" feature. Print that out, take it to the dealer and say I want to pay $XX,XXX for this car. If they won't do it, walk out the door. There are plenty of other dealers, as long as you aren't being crazy about the price; someone will take your money.

Jacoz35thSS
10-17-2006, 10:20 AM
A car at dealer X whether ordered out or in stock is subject to dealer X's pricing. This means that if they may say all Camaro's sold at $5.00 over window sticker and that means anything on the lot and that you order. Dealers establish sale prices while the manufacturer only established the list price.

Ron78Z&01SS
10-17-2006, 11:28 AM
Ordering is nice because you can get EXACTLY what you want. It's also easier and quicker to shop around.

When we bought my wife's 2000 Sunfire, we built it exactly the way she wanted it, printed the "build sheet" from the Pontiac site (along with the retail/invoice price sheet from cars.com) and went to the Pontiac dealer to ask how close to invoice they could get. First dealership we went to said "probably around" $500 over invoice. Second dealership asked how close the last guy came, and I told him along that "I don't mind driving out of town if it saves me enough money". He didn't bat an eyelid and "$100 over invoice". No negotiating, I didn't waste his time and he didn't waste mine. Best experience I've had buying a car. Even though my wife now gets the GM supplier discount (about $350 over invoice for a Corvette), I still plan on shopping like this when the time comes for me to get a V8 Camaro or C6 in a couple of years. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky.

We were planning on doing the same when my wife decided to move up to a Trailblazer, but actually got a LOT better deal when GM was trying to unload the 2004's to make room for the 2005's.

Not to sure if you'll have much luck on finding a dealer that doesn't plan on jacking the price up when the Camaro first comes out though. If you don't mind driving, you might have some luck by contacting out of state dealers through the net.

Casull
10-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Ordering is nice because you can get EXACTLY what you want. It's also easier and quicker to shop around.

When we bought my wife's 2000 Sunfire, we built it exactly the way she wanted it, printed the "build sheet" from the Pontiac site (along with the retail/invoice price sheet from cars.com) and went to the Pontiac dealer to ask how close to invoice they could get. First dealership we went to said "probably around" $500 over invoice. Second dealership asked how close the last guy came, and I told him along that "I don't mind driving out of town if it saves me enough money". He didn't bat an eyelid and "$100 over invoice". No negotiating, I didn't waste his time and he didn't waste mine. Best experience I've had buying a car. Even though my wife now gets the GM supplier discount (about $350 over invoice for a Corvette), I still plan on shopping like this when the time comes for me to get a V8 Camaro or C6 in a couple of years. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky.

We were planning on doing the same when my wife decided to move up to a Trailblazer, but actually got a LOT better deal when GM was trying to unload the 2004's to make room for the 2005's.

Not to sure if you'll have much luck on finding a dealer that doesn't plan on jacking the price up when the Camaro first comes out though. If you don't mind driving, you might have some luck by contacting out of state dealers through the net.



I actually used this exact same method when me and my wife bought our civic. I actually did everything over the internet however (I am lazy :D ). The next time I buy a car I will do the same thing. As mentioned above it is a no BS way of getting the lowest figure on a car off the bat. Actually the first dealer I got an e-mail back from quoted me $250 over invoice and that INCLUDED the $500 desitnation charge; so essientially it was $250 under what I had found to be the lowest invoice price. However, since me and my wife were crunched for time and had to buy (I totalled her car) we had to pay a rediculous price for dealer added accessories ($100 for door edge guards, are you kidding me!!!) I did talk them down a bit on the accessories and it still turned out to be cheaper than anywhere else.

Unless you intend to hold off on buying the new camaro for about a year you will likely have no luck witht his method as I am sure dealers will not let a V-8 go for much under MSRP (unless you go in there with cash in hand). So, if there happens to be a Camaro that has every option on it that you were going to order anyway sitting there on the lot, then it will not matter if you order one or buy it off the lot.

Depending on what time of year you buy, you can sometimes even get more options on the car for a lower price than if you were to order it form the dealer, just depends.

SunsetHawkSelena
10-17-2006, 11:51 AM
like the others have said, ordering should not affect price... but i prefer to order. i have ordered two cars (02 Firehawk and 05 GTO) from the same dealer and it has been a much better experience for me cuz i get exactly what i want and i don't mind the wait.

and my particular dealer is all abouit selling for invoice if the car is ordered because they know it's not going to sit on their lot. now the first time i ordered i did have to give a $500 deposit, but the second time i ordered, they just ordered my car as part of their regular inventory and since i had gone through with the first deal, they didn't make me give any deposit.

ordering is the way to go if you are very particular about what you want and you don't mind waiting. just find you a good dealer and you're set. :D

frusciante fan
10-17-2006, 12:01 PM
how long does it normally take from the point of ordering the car, till the time it comes in?

and about how long for a camaro in the 1st quarter of '09?

Casull
10-17-2006, 12:05 PM
how long does it normally take from the point of ordering the car, till the time it comes in?

and about how long for a camaro in the 1st quarter of '09?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think the average is about 3 months. May take longer with a Camaro simply due to the initail demand.

Ron78Z&01SS
10-17-2006, 12:19 PM
We ordered the Sunfire before the 2000's were even on the lot. Took between 3 and 4 weeks if I remember correctly.

Probably depends on how many people order before you. Also, Chevy dealers would probably want to get as many high option cars (more profit) on their lots as soon as they could. I would think a new model in high demand would probably take quite a bit longer. Probably way too early to even guess how long it would take for a Camaro in the first year, but I'd be willing to bet patience would be needed :yes:.