WTF!?!.... Was this race over before it started?!

ok, I went to drop my buddy off at the body shop off a three lane HW. I left, went down the street, and took a turn in the median to head back the otherway. I was in second at a slow roll... I headed out onto the HW from about 10mph.... WOT, trying to gat back up to speed. As soon as I straighten out I see an SRT4 about 5 car lenghts in back of me so I decide to try to take him...

2nd WOT, and about redliined, 3rd, redline.... and this little bas**rd walks right past me when I'm in top third!!!:mad: ... I shift to 4th, half way thru 4th I give up due to traffic, I ran out of room and I had to get back on to base..

I could have gotten back if I had more room.. But this wouldn't have happened if I had that damn nitrous kit.... but I would have had to open it, turn it on, then turn it on.....

WTF!?!?....:cry:... :o... :mad: .... I mean really... This was just not on the fair side. I was doing about 110 when he walked past me....I should be shot...:cry:

I've raced one before from 60 and it took me till 120 to pass him... there WILL be a rematch next time I see him outside county limits.

SRT-4s are no joke. i was inside one that only had a boost controler and a turbo timer and he took me all the way up to 160... those things arnt good off the line. but on the highway...well thats another story

I realise that all they have to do is a cam and a diff turbo to bring them up to 300hp..... They just piss me off that THAT cheap a$$ car can pass a $25,000 V8 F-Body...I REALLY need more mods...I'm not running much anyway... But I've really wanted nitrous lately.

N20 FTW
yeah man some of those are really fast. once they upgrade that turbo they are roll monsters.

I still can't get over it.... I was humiliated!...:cry:... I really need more engine mods... well that and these heavy wheels don't help.....

Damn it.....

This saddens me too. I likewise had an embarassing moment. I got walked on until 130 by an svt FOCUS! In my defense, I had 4 people in the car (including me) AND my top and windows were down. Still though it took me till ~120 to pull farther past him.

Some of them are monster! Very cheap to make fast.

I wash I was back in the 60's... we didn't have 4cyl's w/ turbos.... ****ing cars are making the original Muscle look like a joke.. Discraceful.... Most of the Honda guys are goin out and buying SRT4's and Cobalts, which I don't mind as in it's good for our market.. but It's killing the Muscle car guys... I don't care... a NEON is NOT a dam sports car!...... But soon snough, we get enough of these idiots gettign into accidents and getting cought street racing their insureance in gerneral will go up...b/c it will be concidered a high rish automobile.

I'm ordering a dam NX 150 dry next week if I can.... I'm tired of this... it's kind of expensive to sink money into my car to make it almost untouchable...

I can't wait till next deployment so I can make bank, come home and throw it into a S/C, H/C and a forged bottom end... and add a 50hp shot of nitrous to the mix... that'd be unstopable... and I'll need a Strange 12b w/ 3.83's.

Wow.... Im quite shoked to see this. They can really get that fast??? ..... Chevy better do something like now. Us muscle guys are in a bad place right now. Its like our cars arent up to standard anymore cause we havent had a new one in 8 years, so theres been nothing to raise the bar, meanwhile all theese other companys have been workin on stuff. Chevy better wake up. This 09 Z needs 500 hp. I have 2 LT1's and ive never raced an SRT 4 but if i ever lose to a neon omg. ill lose it. I dont wanna be forced to do the unspeakable.

Heh heh -- they're idiots for street racing but you participated just as much...

Why complain about how they make the power? If he was faster than you in a decently-modded LS1, especially up top, that makes him pretty quick in my book.

Bitch about the pretenders with the fart cans & park bench wings. If it's truly fast, they're a speed junkie just like the rest of us.

Screw nitrous. Procharger all the way! :D

Or, if you really want to spend some money, a turbo.

They are roll monsters like stated. Run him from a dig and it will be a different story.

They are roll monsters like stated. Run him from a dig and it will be a different story.
Yep, the story will then be that you'll get at most a 4-5 car lead, which he will quickly make up and blow past you.

SRT-4 neons go 0 to 60 in under 6 seconds, top out around 150MPH and go quarter mile in mid 14's.

There is a difference between a economy compact car and a sport compact car. If you said you where beat by a honda accord then I could see frustration but being that it was a sport compact with boost and god knows what else don't feel too bad... first off your car weighs twice as much. Dude's probably making 250 WHP. Its like bikes... a 60 HP bike can beat a 200 HP car cause of the weight difference.

As far as the American V8 world we F body guys have it the hardest... The F body is the heviest compaired to a lighter mustang or even lighter compact car. We have to deal with "terminators" and their stupid super charger. Then the compact cars with their stupid turbos and N2O. We get ridiculed about the Camaro/Firebird being a "White Trash Ferrari" and are almost expected to loose for some reason, *sniff* We F body guys hear about a loss forever and hear excuses when we win. The LT1 and LS1 guys like to poke fun at each other but we bretherin and uh... sisterin?... still have ONE thing in common... we all like to terminate "terminators", squash fox bodies and eat rice the same! :usa:

As far as the American V8 world we F body guys have it the hardest... The F body is the heviest compaired to a lighter mustang or even lighter compact car. We have to deal with "terminators" and their stupid super charger. Then the compact cars with their stupid turbos and N2O. We get ridiculed about the Camaro/Firebird being a "White Trash Ferrari" and are almost expected to loose for some reason, *sniff* We F body guys hear about a loss forever and hear excuses when we win. The LT1 and LS1 guys like to poke fun at each other but we bretherin and uh... sisterin?... still have ONE thing in common... we all like to terminate "terminators", squash fox bodies and eat rice the same! :usa:

Amen brother...amen lol:cz28:

Oh, enough whining already about us "poor" F-body guys :rolleyes: ..... sheeesh, you're making us sound like a bunch of cry babies who get hurt feelings when we get beat by someone else :irk: :p.

Face the facts. There are other cars in this world who ALSO run as fast, if not FASTER than our "almighty" F-bodies. Even if they only have 4 cylinders ;). But think about this, the new SRT-8 Charger, with the 6.1L 425 HP Hemi, barely runs into the 13's around ~105 mph ..... even THEY can get beat by one of their own (brand) with ~190 HP LESS than they have!!! :lol: Now THAT'S embarassing :yes:.

Bayer ..... time for heads & cam or some form of forced induction dude. Nitrous is only a "quick fix" and isn't legal on the streets anyways. Keep in mind, your bottle can run out ... their turbo will keep going and going :shrug:.

I realise that all they have to do is a cam and a diff turbo to bring them up to 300hp..... They just piss me off that THAT cheap a$$ car can pass a $25,000 V8 F-Body...I REALLY need more mods...I'm not running much anyway... But I've really wanted nitrous lately. Even the playing field, you put on a turbo and a new cam lol

I never knew N20 was illegal to have in your car, hooked up, on the street.

I know a kid with a Focus that got it stickered at a fairly strict shop, no problem with n20. Hmm Owell.

While N20 is cool, I like the lumpy NA idle, or the whine from a blower better.

At the end of a long, hard, day, id rather get blown than sprayed.

I didn't mean nitrous was illegal to have in your car ... I mean it's illegal to USE on the street. But so is street racing, and since when has that stopped anybody, right? ;)

It's now illegal to have in your car here in GA thanks to a hysterical group that lobbied the state lawmakers. Their main push was the "fire risk," and if that failed then they said it was used only for illegal purposes.

Of course, if anybody had stoped panicing long enough to look at the facts, they'd know the nitrous oxide may accelerate a burn but it cannot burn by itself. The news stories presented it as if it was a tank of volatile fuel "right inside the car with you!"

Speeding is already illegal. Racing is already illegal. Why they felt compelled to ban a specific power adder is beyond me.

Ignorance is bliss? :rolleyes:

Some laws have such thin basis :(.

I would bet that 99% of people wouldnt know that, about it being illegal in GA. Even if you got pulled over, what are they gonna do? Ask you to pop the hood? And even if they did, I imagine you could pull the bull**** line, that inless they are a certified master mechinic, your not popping **** becuase your vehicle is under warrenty.

Fire Hazzard ... What a bunch a boners ... And driving around with a full tank of gasoliene is better right? N20 wont ignite until its mixed with another fuel, and is exposed to open flame.

It's now illegal to have in your car here in GA thanks to a hysterical group that lobbied the state lawmakers. Their main push was the "fire risk," and if that failed then they said it was used only for illegal purposes.

The news stories presented it as if it was a tank of volatile fuel "right inside the car with you!"


Imagine what they'll do when they find out about 20 gallon "tanks of volatile fuel" commonly referred to as gas tanks :D

Or how about those highly explosive airbags...

Bayer ..... time for heads & cam or some form of forced induction dude. Nitrous is only a "quick fix" and isn't legal on the streets anyways. Keep in mind, your bottle can run out ... their turbo will keep going and going :shrug:.


Dang it.. you guys really are making it difficlut for me to make up my mind.... I REALLLLLLY want a D1SC Procharger... but it's $5,500 for the kit that I'm looking at. I also like the lope of a cam.... I was originally going to save a couple grand for a H/C setup for the spring.... My long term goals are H/C Blown LS1 W/ a forged bottom end and a small whif of nitrous or methanol to help further cool the air charge... Of course the bottom end and the heads will bump the compreession down a smidge. Although I have come this far to figure out what I want to DO w/ the car, I sill have to figure out what first.

THat's kind of why I'm piecing it. I could do the nitrous first... but then there goes the $$ for the H/C for the spring... The D1SC will most likely be bought next deployment... but I'll also need a new rear by then... that's $2,200... But the bottom end cant handle boost AND nitrous w/ a H/C... So it'll almost be the Boost, then the bottom end then the H/C, then the nitrous/methanol.

It's going to be around $19000 for everything I want... iiesh.. big number... TO finish the car that is. After all that I should be good.................... yeah RIGHT!...:lol:

^ ^ ^ welcome to the Wonderful World, Viscious Cycle, Downward Spiral of modding!!! :thumb: :D :lol:

My plans are likely a heads/cam setup, and eventually a larger displacement LSx, but still NA. If heads/cam, blower, and nitrous are required to satisfy to crave for speed? ;) You're my f***** hero!!! :bow: :D :p

hey it could be worse... many tuners spend $50,000 or more making high HP imports

I beat a SRT4, i didn't think they were much, kind of funny because before i thought the celica was somethign to be scared of, yeah i barely beat the srt4 by a whole car length.

I realise that all they have to do is a cam and a diff turbo to bring them up to 300hp..... They just piss me off that THAT cheap a$$ car can pass a $25,000 V8 F-Body...I REALLY need more mods...I'm not running much anyway... But I've really wanted nitrous lately.

Those SRT4's are going for around $20k so they aren't that much cheaper than your F-body. They run decent even with no mods but with mods they are definately not a walk in the park.

I saw a vid of one that had a larger turbo, injectors, fuel system, DRs, lots of weight removed and she was running 10s. SO just beware...you never know what your gonna get.

And if money is an issue with your modding decision then I would suggest that you take a step back and look at all you want to do with your car. if you truely want to do the charger and nitrous, then get the motor yanked out and rebuilt to handle the boost and have a blower cam installed. Then get the charger installed and so on ,,,etc