Got this in my email today!!!

http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/files/picture1_195.jpgIm guessing this is of the new camaro...unless nissan is going retro

Who did you get it from?

It's obviously an artist's rendering, and since there is nothing else to go on than your speculation, this is pretty worthless to me without some more information. :)

That's interesting.

I still hate the '57 Chevy front fender looking instrument binnacle.

Who did you get it from?

It's obviously an artist's rendering, and since there is nothing else to go on than your speculation, this is pretty worthless to me without some more information. :)


I don't think he should answer that question Jake. I'm sure he's going to want to get things in the future.

Judging by the details in the rendition, it's the production version dash as it will appear from the OEM.

You don't need speculation to figure that much out.

Things do seem to be progressing along very quickly, doesn't it? ;)

I still hate the '57 Chevy front fender looking instrument binnacle. Still my favorite part of the concept interior. I am glad they based that on the '67 / '68.

Judging by the details, it the production version dash as it will appear from the OEM.



I agree. It looks good enough to come from an OEM. I just don't like the IP.

Ummmmmm how is this different than the concept?

http://www.yearone.com/WebPics/05_news/Concept%20Camaro/dash.jpg
http://www.autoviaggiando.com/archivio/2006/01/11-chevrolet-camaro-concept/large%20di%20chevrolet%20camaro%20concept%20-%2008.jpg

Looks nearly the same....are we sure this pic isn’t just an artist rendition of the concepts dash?

And…..if it is………ARRRRRGGG! All I wanted was the dash to look more modern!

I’m not happy if that the direction they are going with it….:bang:

Ummmmmm how is this different than the concept?

Looks nearly the same....are we sure this pic isn’t just an artist rendition of the concepts dash?

Nope, it's not the concept.

The pic has heating and defrost vents for the windshield & side windows. Also has switchwork for the windshield wiper-washer system. Compare the concept and this picture and you'll see the way things have been simplified for assembly. The lack of stitchwork on the dash (unlike the concept) shows a more production friendly way of assembly (seamless and glued to a backing. The guage area is metallic plastic instead of what looks to be polished chrome on the concept. The stereo speaker grille in the center on the top of the dash.

And…..if it is………ARRRRRGGG! All I wanted was the dash to look more modern!

I’m not happy if that the direction they are going with it….:bang:

GM made no secret that "if" produced, the Camaro would be faithful to the concept. They are doing exactly what they said they'd do. Judging by the reaction to the car at the Auto Shows it's been in, that's probally a pretty good idea. :)

Thanks Guy :thumb:

honestly, if its that close, puke!

if i want 57 chevy interior ill buy one. in a 2009 car i want nice modern interior not chrome 60's vents and chrome guage clusters and a stupid right guard deodorant power stripe on my dash/doors. needs to look like this! modern! like from the new commodore SS.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/57-2006-2007-holden-ve-commodore.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/30-2006-2007-holden-ve-commodore.jpg

My thoughts exactly blue 79 Z/28.

This is almost a deal killer for me.....and I'm not just being an online cry baby.

That was the ONLY part of this car I truly disliked and thought could be improved.

I REALLY wanted to see a more modern interpretation of the concept work its way into the production model.

I wanted to see a more C6, or as blue 79 Z/28 posted, commodore SS look to it....

But from what I can see its nearly cut and paste from the concept.....:no:

My thoughts exactly blue 79 Z/28.

This is almost a deal killer for me.....and I'm not just being an online cry baby.

That was the ONLY part of this car I truly disliked and thought could be improved.

I REALLY wanted to see a more modern interpretation of the concept work its way into the production model.

I wanted to see a more C6, or as blue 79 Z/28 posted, commodore SS look to it....

But from what I can see its nearly cut and paste from the concept.....:no:

Agreed.

The stitching throughout the interior of the concept (regardless of whether you like the retro basis or not) was probably the best part of it. It actually looked "rich" and "classy" ... something CHEVROLET could use a little bit more of (might help their image with domestic haters?:rolleyes: ). I hope they AT LEAST keep the look with the seats?! :( I loved the contrast color they used (instead of using the same color). I really wish they'd put the stitching into production on the dash, center console, etc. ... but we'd better gear up for "reality", eh? :shrug:

My thoughts exactly blue 79 Z/28.

This is almost a deal killer for me.....and I'm not just being an online cry baby.

That was the ONLY part of this car I truly disliked and thought could be improved.

I REALLY wanted to see a more modern interpretation of the concept work its way into the production model.

I wanted to see a more C6, or as blue 79 Z/28 posted, commodore SS look to it....

But from what I can see its nearly cut and paste from the concept.....:no:
same, old interiors belong in their rightful cars, i thought this car was not supposed to be a retro copy but a new car with some old styling cues. not a pure retro junk interior. gm has never got this but the interior is the MOST important part of the car. its where the driver resides and its what he lives with 100% of the time with the car. it has to be quality, with good seats and tasteful. go look at the mustang which is way more retro, does the interior look like a 65 mustang? no of course not, its plenty modern. even for such a retro car.

http://www.gulfcoastnews.com/images/RoadTestImages/05MUSTANG_InteriorWeb.JPG
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/funford001/kevshow/03Perfect65Interior.jpg

i love my camaros, but its the time in my life i buy something for me, not because of a name, if they fubar the interior and make it like the concept, im afraid ill only be admiring other peoples camaros, and buy something else:(

I had hoped they were going to do a more modern dash... Where are the other gauges (oil pressure, volts, temp, etc) going to go? Not feelin' it.

gm has never got this but the interior is the MOST important part of the car. its where the driver resides and its what he lives with 100% of the time with the car. it has to be quality, with good seats and tasteful.

I couldn’t agree more……I think this could be a big mistake for GM…the novelty of the interior will turn buyers away after the first model year…..

It better have had a interior refreshing by the fall of 2009 when I head down to my Chevy dealership :(

I like the Holden interior. That would be a good starting point for GM. I want to be able to monitor as many aspects of the car I can.

I like it. :D

I guess no in-dash DVD/Nav. The more I see, the more I feel like I'm going to get a C6. Oh well.

I had hoped they were going to do a more modern dash... Where are the other gauges (oil pressure, volts, temp, etc) going to go? Not feelin' it.

It's kinda fuzzy, but it looks like the console gauges got ditched.

You guys sure are getting your underwear bunched up over a single picture with no addtiional information at this point. When it is finalized, then you can get worked up but don't pass judgment on it without knowing anything about it. It is just a sketch and we don't know how accurate or how old it is. The car is still a couple of years away, and everything can change.

You guys sure are getting your underwear bunched up over a single picture with no addtiional information at this point. When it is finalized, then you can get worked up but don't pass judgment on it without knowing anything about it. It is just a sketch and we don't know how accurate or how old it is. The car is still a couple of years away, and everything can change.well we are just "what if" ing.:D bottom line, if its retro like concept then lots of people will turn away from it, including me. im not saying no i wont buy the car, cuz we havent seen it obviously. im saying "IF" it looks like that ill pass.

I think it looks a lot more cleaned up then the concept interior did. I like it.

it's not a deal breaker for me, but i'd prefer a more modern interior...

that's definately different than the concept interior.. besides what's already been pointed out, there's a display area above the radio/hvac knobs that there isnt in the concept interior

I like it! I think if anyone here was expecting a complete makeover from what the concept was, they are in an alternate reality. The reason that car is being produced is because the majority love it. If you don't, who cares, go buy something else!

I like it! I think if anyone here was expecting a complete makeover from what the concept was, they are in an alternate reality. The reason that car is being produced is because the majority love it. If you don't, who cares, go buy something else!ok i will. and thats my point. we are a special breed here. we are camaro enthusiusts here, which means we have a special place for these cars. now put yourself in the general publics position. if i can say i dont like the pure retro interior, what about some other guy whose compairing the car to other cars in its class gonna say? or even out of class? ive been thinking stepping up to a C55 AMG for a while, while about 50k cdn for one slightly used, its still 5.5L rwd and 370hp. and a nice modern interior. its gonna be the same money as a new camaro for me. or maybe look at the grand prix thats coming. its a commodore SS. modern interior. tell me what car out there that isnt a bomb has that hardcore retro interior? none! its a novelty thing, gets old fast, excuse the pun. if gm wants to sell more then LS1 numbers with this car, they have to appeal to the general public. and 99% of the cars out there weather your shopping for a camry or accord, or a 350z or a wrx, they all have modern interiors sans tacky 50's chevy headlight bezels for instument clusters:dead:

i know its just my oppinion, but the car looks so modern and stealth/caddy inspired. i cant see them not making the interior modern to todays and tomorrows standard too.:death:

yeah i like it, its gotta be cheap and simple, thats exactly what its supposed to be, i dont think stitching is going to be possible though because it looks like a hard plastic dash. this car is going to be somewhat retro, if you want a commodore ss, then wait til gm brings em over. gm needs there cars to all be different, having 8 different trailblazers is exactly what they dont need.

but having a pt cruiser/prowler/thunderbird camaro will work this time right??! :alert:

From a car audio industry perspective based on the concept draw'r'ings:

-No single/double DIN opening. Why? Although products like the Clean Sweep, 3Sixty.1 and .2, and numerous AudioControl products make adding on to the OEM system possible, it's not cool to see an enthusaist vehicle (Read: One that WILL be modded) not even include a workable space for a head unit upgrade. Hope this changes come production.

-Not factory speaker locations visible. Kick areas and doors look PRIME for front stage buildups. As Borat would say, "Very nice!".

-Nice to see a fairly symmetrical dash with little overhang over the floor. Kicks builds and use of horns would work really well, without much in the way to block the sound from down low. Good stuff.

Let's all hope the quality of materials is way above and beyond whatever is in use now. Can't stand how cheap the Cobalt interior is, and I had a hard time keeping down my lunch with the G6's door panels.

We'll see as time gets a little closer what GM sets as the final version for the interior. A visiually appealing and functional interior is a must for my next car. While not a deal breaker, I'd want a top notch interior/ cluster vs. what I've seen in the new "retro" must@ngs.

but having a pt cruiser/prowler/thunderbird camaro will work this time right??! :alert:
The car and interior are no where near that retro. If you look at the drawing, there are three Spaces to put the gauges, two large and one rectangular in the middle. Now insert the picture of the Commadore's gauge cluster, that fits. not so sure about the oil pressure and fuel but that can be added in there with the speedo and tach or over on the dash by the HVAC controls or down by the shifter like the concept.


oh, didn't chrysler sell a lot of the pt cruisers??? yeah, I believe they did

:dunno: I like it, but I can understand what is being said about wanting it to be more modern. I am good either way.

David

Assuming that orange stip doesn't HAVE to be that color, I love it. All the orange was what I hated about the concepts interior. Make it silver colored.

i'm just sad you all jump on the "Im not going to buy it" bandwagon..

See it in person, in production, then make your decision.. its all i got to say.

-steve

I guess no in-dash DVD/Nav. The more I see, the more I feel like I'm going to get a C6. Oh well.

What? Don't like roadmaps? ;)

If it's any consolation, OnStar will be standard (all GM cars will have it by 2009), and you can always buy one at Radio Shack.

You guys sure are getting your underwear bunched up over a single picture with no addtiional information at this point. When it is finalized, then you can get worked up but don't pass judgment on it without knowing anything about it. It is just a sketch and we don't know how accurate or how old it is. The car is still a couple of years away, and everything can change.

Although I'm with you about not getting worked up before we actually see it, but I'd say that's a little bit beyond "just a sketch" there, wouldn't you agree? :lol:


As for the whining, I absolutely hated the console guages. I also made a post after I went to the introduction that the interior quality of this car has to be over the top.The interior of the car is clean. Too clean. So clean that items like the stitching on the seats and dash, the chrome shifter & assembly as well as the guages, and the "color strip" were needed to set the interior off... and it was obvious that none could be carried over into production. Therefore, the quality of materials have to be over the top or else the car's interior is going to feel like a base model 80s era Korean spec Hyundai... or the 1st gen Neon.

I'm still willing to give GM the benefit until I actually see and feel the interior myself. I think we all should.

I'm still willing to give GM the benefit until I actually see and feel the interior myself. I think we all should.

I am as well....Im just not thrilled at the design direction.....

About the only deal breakers for me is if the top engine available is a supercharged 6 or turbo 4, if they change it to front wheel drive, if they make it a four door, if the only color available is pink, or if they change the name. None of those seem like they are going to happen so I'm most likely going to be purchasing one.

in regards to the topic at hand. I'm not sure what I think about the concept interior but I have a feeling whatever they come up with will grow on me. I'm not particularly a fan of the third or fourth gen cars interiors but I lived hapily with both generations.

They need to make the interior like this:

http://www.aviation-fr.info/guide/images/f22/cockpit.jpg ;)

NO CUP HOLDERS?!!?!?!?!?!

I never noticed that the HVAC information was displayed on the orange strip, that's pretty cool. Though I'm not exactly thrilled how the center stack flows. I like the overall design off the interior. Color cordination like the 04-06 GTOs would be awesome. :bow:

Honestly, my only beef with the interior was the gauges. Not the design, just the materials they used that gave it a cheap/fake chrome look. I'm sure they'll fix that for the production. You guys say you want A SS-V type interior in a retro Camaro, but I really don't think that would look right at all.

Comparison photos:
Concept
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/Camaro-Interior-1-450.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/91z4me/Comparison%20pictures/Camarodash.jpg

Also this thing looks pretty darn real near the windshield, or where it would be, could this be a render that was blurred to make it look less realistic or hide details?

could this be a render that was blurred to make it look less realistic or hide details?

I think it's a render that is JUST concerned with the dash assembly itself and not the console, door panels, or anything else. I think that's why the console is blurred - might not even be from the same designer or supplier. While I think if this is genuine some assumptions can be made about the dash itself, I don't think that anything about the console can be determined here. I'm not sure that it's a touchscreen in the middle of the dash so much as a blank spot for a yet undetermined radio or sound system, though obviously a nav screen isn't out of the question.

I think it's a render that is JUST concerned with the dash assembly itself and not the console, door panels, or anything else. I think that's why the console is blurred - might not even be from the same designer or supplier. While I think if this is genuine some assumptions can be made about the dash itself, I don't think that anything about the console can be determined here. I'm not sure that it's a touchscreen in the middle of the dash so much as a blank spot for a yet undetermined radio or sound system, though obviously a nav screen isn't out of the question.

I thought the same thing. The rendering is from the vendor who is providing the dash, but not neccessarily the rest of the interior. :D

BTW... just in case anyone missed it... I love it! ;)

P.S. I'm guessing the accent color could be body color if need be.

its way to flat and fat. i like the top of the dash, just not the front down:p

I hope that retro dash doesn't make it to production. When i saw the Mustand i imediately saw that even the dash pad was like the old one, but the general public won't get that stuff so it's a waste. Those crome gauges are horrendous. Put the other gauges back where they belong like in the 3rd and 4th gen.

much ado about nothing........

much ado about nothing........

Well, that pretty much says it. Must be nice to come in any say four words and have that halt or at least really slow down pages of speculation.:D

:lol:

Well...thats that....

Well, that pretty much says it. Must be nice to come in any say four words and have that halt or at least really slow down pages of speculation.:Dthats what i like to hear:D

I don't think he needed four words, he could have just used the ellipsis and it would have halted the speculation.

"........"

honestly, if its that close, puke!

if i want 57 chevy interior ill buy one. in a 2009 car i want nice modern interior not chrome 60's vents and chrome guage clusters and a stupid right guard deodorant power stripe on my dash/doors. needs to look like this! modern! like from the new commodore SS.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/57-2006-2007-holden-ve-commodore.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/30-2006-2007-holden-ve-commodore.jpg

Those pictures just OOZE Pontiac.

:confused: ok, they ooze holden to me:p

You guys sure are getting your underwear bunched up over a single picture with no addtiional information at this point.
much ado about nothing........
I guess we are all just desperate to hear something about the production car. Plus its fun to speculate :D And if you don't like the interior, you can always mod it!

GM made no secret that "if" produced, the Camaro would be faithful to the concept. They are doing exactly what they said they'd do. Judging by the reaction to the car at the Auto Shows it's been in, that's probally a pretty good idea. :)

After reading 9 months worth of feeback about the concept, I think it is safe to say that the interior was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, complaint about the concept. It is shame GM has chosen not to listen.

Absolutely hated it 10 months ago; Still hating it!

much ado about nothing........
I wish you could appease our concerns about more things than just this interior issue ;) ...

... such as engines?? :think: Is it really ahead of schedule by a lot?? :shrug: Guh, this is so frustrating for us!! :cry: (although I'm sure you're in a tough spot too?? ;))

much ado about nothing........

sigh of relief.........

Come on guys, that interior isn't retro, it's heritage ;)

Come on guys, that interior isn't retro, it's heritage ;)


Even with the term "heritage," bleh... Just not feelin' it.

Come on guys, that interior isn't retro, it's heritage ;)

That would be heritage in 'roid rage. Blah.

I really don't understand how so many people can be so thrilled about the "retro-ish" exterior but then be so against a "retro-ish" interior :confused:

that picture looks like a interior shot of the bumblebee camaro transformer in the November issues of Hot Rod on page 52, or is just me

IMHO, it is definately a production sketch. It even has a handbrake, which the console obviously didnt have. my guess? this was what the interior's production design was likely going to be... before the concept was debuted.

I had been led to believe that the interior was going to see drastic changes and the above stated is the only reason i can think of for this picture (if it is a genuine GM drawing)

:confused: ok, they ooze holden to me:p

We'll be seeing them with Pontiac badges before too long.

I really don't understand how so many people can be so thrilled about the "retro-ish" exterior but then be so against a "retro-ish" interior :confused:

because the interior is much more towards the retro scale, an an interior is not just someting you look at, but it's someting you sit in, and use.. and things have come a long way in the last 40 years on useability of interiors

Honestly, I'm ready for something different than the overused half clamshell instrument panel overhang and corporate center stack....

and things have come a long way in the last 40 years on useability of interiorsJust because it looks retro, doesn't mean it won't be usable. GM knows they have to do the interior right, just as much as the outside of the car. It could be worse, it could be a 3rd or 4th gen interior, neither retro, nor useable.

I guess I'm in the minority, but I'm a fan of the retro interior. It reminds me a lot of my 68. I'm already used to scanning the console for engine temp, oil pressure, etc.

Just because it looks retro, doesn't mean it won't be usable. GM knows they have to do the interior right, just as much as the outside of the car. It could be worse, it could be a 3rd or 4th gen interior, neither retro, nor useable.

I have no issue with the layout of my fourth gen. Save maybe the cupholder behind the shifter.

All the stuff like visibility, seating height isn't an interior failure...

I don't like it, but it's not exactly a deal-breaker type of thing for me either.

The thing I really hate is that integrated HVAC/audio business. That crap has to stop. Let me put in my own head unit!!! :mad: That abomination is going to make head unit upgrades either impossible, or incredibly clumsy.

That commodore interior is beautiful! Audi-esque but still sporty.

The thing I really hate is that integrated HVAC/audio business. That crap has to stop. Let me put in my own head unit!!! :mad: That abomination is going to make head unit upgrades either impossible, or incredibly clumsy.

I feel the same way, but the problem is that it is unavoidable. I don't have a problem predicting that everything will be that way before too long. Driver info system, audio systems, HVAC, diagnostics...I think it will all be one cluster. I just hope if that is the case, the aftermarket will follow suit and offer updgrade units that integrate into the system.

I guess I'm in the minority, but I'm a fan of the retro interior. It reminds me a lot of my 68. I'm already used to scanning the console for engine temp, oil pressure, etc.

I am part of the minority too. I am all for something fresh - even if fresh means retro.

thats ok, its not gonna look like that, "much ado about nothing" ;)

I have no issue with the layout of my fourth gen.

I agree.....I always felt like I was climbing into a fighter jet cockpit when I got into my '95.....I'd like to see this layout used as a starting point with the 5th gen and modernized to todays standards.

Honestly, I'm ready for something different than the overused half clamshell instrument panel overhang and corporate center stack....

At least I'm not the only one that feels this way. I freaking hate how every car/truck/suv has the same damn gauge/console/center stack setup. There's minor differences in fonts and button sizes but generally they're all the SAME!!! I want something DIFFERENT for a change! I was never fond of the gauges on the floor but stacking them between the speedo and tach would be just fine with me. I just want to be able to buy the thing!!! 2 years is still a long ways off!

I agree.....I always felt like I was climbing into a fighter jet cockpit when I got into my '95.....I'd like to see this layout used as a starting point with the 5th gen and modernized to todays standards.
Agree, The interior on the 4th gens (espically the 98+camaro) has always been one of my fav its so fun to drive and u get that go fast feel from sitting in it with its awsome design and long ass front window haha.


I like the 5th gen interior doesnt bother me. Id take modern as well but its fine to me as it is.

The think is...with a car selling as cheap as the Camaro's price point, you simply will not have the types of materials that you see in more expensive cars...so you basically have to over design to compensat for it...kinda like in the Mustang.

I am willing to be this was a drawing done to show how the concept's interior would translate to production. That does not mean that they will use that design though.


What I am most interested in is that Stereo..because there is no other vehicle I can see that working in (at this point).

Well If its nothing I like it, and if its something I like it more! I think it has a nice flow that goes with the car. It has some color and contrast. By the time its in the car and done I think most of you will like it.

same, old interiors belong in their rightful cars, i thought this car was not supposed to be a retro copy but a new car with some old styling cues. not a pure retro junk interior. gm has never got this but the interior is the MOST important part of the car. its where the driver resides and its what he lives with 100% of the time with the car. it has to be quality, with good seats and tasteful. go look at the mustang which is way more retro, does the interior look like a 65 mustang? no of course not, its plenty modern. even for such a retro car.


i love my camaros, but its the time in my life i buy something for me, not because of a name, if they fubar the interior and make it like the concept, im afraid ill only be admiring other peoples camaros, and buy something else:(


Well, hate to disagree(actually I dont, I like a good debate:lol: ), but the new Mustang dash has styling cues from the old one. The Camaro dash takes a couple cues, just like the Mustang, but the dash looks NOTHING like the dash from a 69 Camaro
http://www.kcclassicauto.com/dgierman/69camaro396dash.jpg

http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/files/picture1_195.jpg

Well, hate to disagree(actually I dont, I like a good debate:lol: ), but the new Mustang dash has styling cues from the old one. The Camaro dash takes a couple cues, just like the Mustang, but the dash looks NOTHING like the dash from a 69 Camaro
http://www.kcclassicauto.com/dgierman/69camaro396dash.jpg

http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/files/picture1_195.jpg


I have to agree. The resemblance is passing at best.

I still believe if they would stop showing all the possibilities with that hideous orange it will look much more modern. I like 75% of the interior. Just not that guages down near the shifter and the orange.

The guage cluster behind the wheel is my favorite part actually.

The orange kicks ass! Originally the concept was supposed to wear orange stripes and that's why the interior was orange to tie it all together. They thought the orange stripes might be a bit too much so the didn't put them on.

I think that interior mirrors the theme of the new camaro nicely. However I am in complete agreement with the orange.... not a fan at all. Nor am I a fan of the gauges down near the shifter. I would have to think those will have to go for safety reasons.

Does anyone know what those gauges were intended to read out on the concept anyway?

I think that interior mirrors the theme of the new camaro nicely. However I am in complete agreement with the orange.... not a fan at all. Nor am I a fan of the gauges down near the shifter. I would have to think those will have to go for safety reasons.

Does anyone know what those gauges were intended to read out on the concept anyway?

oil pressure, voltage, fuel, coolant temp

stars1010... I feel EXACTLY the same way you do.

disappointment again.

The dash design looks good to me, what will make it look modern and cool is the gauge treatment, if they're digital gauges like the Commodore pics, that will be pretty sweet IMO. A touch screen thing above the HVAC area or whatever will be cool as well. It really looks nothing like the old clunky interior IMO. I'm really looking forward to see what the finished product really looks like, of course Fbodfather's hint seems to indicate this is old stuff so it's all a waste of time to discuss I guess...