A6 or M6?

Assuming we'll have the option of a 6 speed manual or a 6 speed AUTO, which would you pick? My last two Camaros have been stick, but my first one was an automatic. I'm thinking I may go with the A6 this time if the performance is basically the same. One big issue I would have is if it has some kind of auto-stick for the twisties...I would definitely miss holding the gear I want.

What about you?

I have an A4 now & miss the M6. I would get the M6. Make this a poll.

CVT












nah just kidding. definately manual.

I have an A4 now & miss the M6. I would get the M6. Make this a poll.

Poll added. ;)

I have an A4 right now, and I am currently debating on doing a T56 swap. I love when I go home and drive my moms stock m6 z28, it feels faster than mine but it isnt

I have an A4 right now, and I am currently debating on doing a T56 swap. I love when I go home and drive my moms stock m6 z28, it feels faster than mine but it isnt


:think:


My mom doesn't even drive.

A6 if I get a convertible, M6 if I get a coupe.

M6.

im geting an m6 becuase im just using it as a toy if it was my dailly commuter i deffinetly got with the a6

Until they start putting an F1 style system in stuff like Ferrari uses I can't imagine driving anything but an M6...

If GM could get their paddle shifters right...cough...Europeans...cough. I'd get one of those. The tap shifts I have seen in Pontiac and on the Vette just don't work-using thumbs to upshift is tough going around corners, etc. Look at F1, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. they may be expensive systems, but they work. Also, GM could spread development cost (10K option in Lambo) over many models and brands. I have no idea what this cost is, but I'd sure like to know. If this doesn't happen I'm going for the the old manual. Anybody else feel this way about GM's tap shift, etc?

i drove a freinds eclipse with the slap stick and its just not the same as a manual and i imagine the paddel shift takes away from it even more.

M6 all the way

...I would definitely miss holding the gear I want.


The reason I'd want an M6.

My '85 TA and '96Z had the A4, but the '02SS has the M6, which I really like. However, I drove a Corvette with the A6 and that's what I want next. Yes, you can hold a gear using the paddles.

Normally I would say the T56 ( its just fun :D ), but since we're talking paddle shift A6 :think: , I'll have to drive it when it comes out. I wouldn't rule it out, and I haven't driven anything with it yet, so we'll see.

M6 because my wife refuses to drive a stick. :D

I don't know how to drive an automatic, so I had to go w/ M6.

I don't know how to drive an automatic, so I had to go w/ M6.

I also have that same problem :lol: I get in an auto and I start slamming my foot against the floor board, (thinking there will be a clutch pedal there). Then after doing that like 2 or 3 times I figure out that there isn't a clutch pedal so then I'm alright again until I start grabbing for the shifter which also isn't there...Honestly I feel much more comfortable driving a manual as well, I feel too disconnected to the car when it's an auto...There just isn't enough driver involvement and I sorta' feel like the car is driving me vs me driving the car :shrug: The only thing that could make me consider a change would be if they had a F1 style system (ala F430) availible...

The reason I'd want an M6.

Thats the same reason I want an A6. Not only to hold the gear but to down shift as well. (Any A4 can hold a gear, its the downshifting part that stresses the trans)

A-6. I have had it with GM's piece of **** clutch.

I don't know, I think that sometimes I just get tired of shifting. Up until last month, I had a Beretta automatic that I could drive whenever I knew I'd be in traffic, or just didn't feel like shifting. But since that died, RIP (don't ask), I am stuck driving the Camaro every day. Plus I'm a little frustrated with it because of some driveline noise gremlins.

I guess I'll just drive them both when they come out and then decide. I would only pick an A6 if it was basically the same speed as the M6 and there was no trade-off. But since I'll be buying the second year, that will give me a year to ask opinions again! :D

M6, because its not worth nearly 4% of the car's price to have the thing shift for me.

The tap shifts I have seen in Pontiac and on the Vette just don't work-using thumbs to upshift is tough going around corners, etc.

You shouldnt be shifting in a corner anyways:death:

That said...M6

Lately, I've been getting a little tired of changing gears in my notchy Tremec T56, in my Commodore... even with a shift kit installed.

Therefore, I really was looking forward to driving a new VE A6 as I thought I would be converted. However, I found the A6 a little disappointing... although smooth enough, I found it was slow to shift down at WOT from moderate speeds. It definitely didn't feel anywhere near as fun to drive as my manual, notchy gearchange 'n' all.

Perhaps the A6 is only a calibration change away for the self-tuner from being a real alternative to an M6, but not in my humble opinion... as good as the A6 is.

Lately, I've been getting a little tired of changing gears in my notchy Tremec T56, in my Commodore... even with a shift kit installed.

Therefore, I really was looking forward to driving a new VE A6 as I thought I would be converted. However, I found the A6 a little disappointing... although smooth enough, I found it was slow to shift down at WOT from moderate speeds. It definitely didn't feel anywhere near as fun to drive as my manual, notchy gearchange 'n' all.

Perhaps the A6 is only a calibration change away for the self-tuner from being a real alternative to an M6, but not in my humble opinion... as good as the A6 is.

How did it feel in a straight line? As fast as an M6? When you wanted it to downshift, did it always drop into a gear that had plenty of go? Did it hunt around for gears?

M6, and please no paddle shifters. Leave the paddle shifters for the A6 or whatever.

A6 w/ paddle shift. I think my M6 days are done :(

Correct, let me amend my statement to shifting prior to going into corners. Also any wheel corrections and up/downshifts are very difficult w/GM's systems. Anyway, paddle shifters are on F1 cars for a reason-they are super fast in reaction and still give the driver control over the box. Think about the number of times a foot has slipped off and launched a manual into another car. Not a replacement for M6, but the big $ cfars offer both-great choice! By the way, there is no manual clutch in F1 style cars (see links). Anyone here driven with these in their race cars or been in the F430 w/F1 or Gallardo w/E-Gear? I'd kill for F1 paddle shifters on the new Camaro!

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/f43005_inter.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/ferrarienzo_inter3.jpg

If I can gas it from idle up a steep hill(without downshifting) an A6 sounds cool, but expensive.

M6: more fun, and the fact that a lot of people can't drive them I find pretty entertaining as well. also just "feels" right - and I KNOW if I go Auto I will regret it.

I really disliked GM's paddle shift setup on the Grand Prix's. I did not like the push/pull effect. In my opinion one side should be upshifts, the other downshifts. The pull should be towards the wheel.

Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and show off my ignorance.

A admit I prefer an automatic transmission.

But more recently I've been hearing about the transmission(s) you've all been bringing up. But I have absolutely NO idea what a 'paddle shift' or whatever various names you're all calling it.

I just know auto and manual.

So what is this new option and how does it work?

Ellwyn, the basic premise behind the paddle shifter set up is to bring the best of both worlds, the ease of use of an auto and the joy of manual. The systems are like the ones that can be seen in the links I posted on the last page. The paddles, left and right of the 3 and 9 positions on the steering wheel allow for both hands on the wheel up (right) and downshifts (left). The system has no manual clutch, so you only need to worry about the feet for acceleration and braking. The clutch is engaged when sensors react to your movement on the paddle. They also have an auto mode where you can let the car shift itself. It is much more engaging that a tapshift set up in a traditional automatic(see both hands on the wheel comment) and the new systems have crisp, almost race-level shift timing. I agree with SSCamaro that GM's system just wasnt right.

F1 style:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/f43005_inter3.jpg

GM style:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/photogallery/
(pick gallery and interior and see the small triangles on the inside of the wheel-those are upshifts, to downshift pull back on an area behind the wheel)

I like choosing my own gears, and clutching... most of the time...

Feel more connected to the car. That other leg needs something to do.

How did it feel in a straight line? As fast as an M6? When you wanted it to downshift, did it always drop into a gear that had plenty of go? Did it hunt around for gears?

Maybe I'm the wrong person to answer that as I only drove the car briefly, simulating the sort of driving I wouldn't normally try myself... but from what I gathered, the A6 selected the right gear for the % throttle... it's just that it was slow to respond. It could have been due to the auto's electronics taking time to learn my driving style before downchanging?

Given the VE's A6 is slightly quicker than the M6 over the quaarter, I guess that would partly answer your question. Although, there's not much between the A6 and M6, performance-wise. :D

Ellwyn, the basic premise behind the paddle shifter set up is to bring the best of both worlds, the ease of use of an auto and the joy of manual. The systems are like the ones that can be seen in the links I posted on the last page. The paddles, left and right of the 3 and 9 positions on the steering wheel allow for both hands on the wheel up (right) and downshifts (left). The system has no manual clutch, so you only need to worry about the feet for acceleration and braking. The clutch is engaged when sensors react to your movement on the paddle. They also have an auto mode where you can let the car shift itself. It is much more engaging that a tapshift set up in a traditional automatic(see both hands on the wheel comment) and the new systems have crisp, almost race-level shift timing. I agree with SSCamaro that GM's system just wasnt right.

F1 style:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/f43005_inter3.jpg

GM style:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/photogallery/
(pick gallery and interior and see the small triangles on the inside of the wheel-those are upshifts, to downshift pull back on an area behind the wheel)


So how hard is it to get used to if you're only driven a stick shift a couple times and realized you hated it? lol

The clutch is the part I hate about a stick shift. Using both feet is entirely too uncomfortable.

This sounds like something I could get interested in actually.

M6...duh...:confused:

M6 no question about it. Unlike many who opt for the auto I actually enjoy driving the manual even in traffic. For the 5th gen it'll be a stick no doubt about it.

Definately M6, I've already nixed the auto on my Z, and dont plan having an auto again anytime soon on anything. So much more fun and as everyone else said you feel more connected to the car with the manual box. Though that paddle shift does sound entertaining.. Didnt someone come out with a conversion for one of those for the 4l60e and 700r4?

i drove a freinds eclipse with the slap stick and its just not the same as a manual and i imagine the paddel shift takes away from it even more.

The paddles are friggin great. My dad's Maseratti is SO MUCH FUN to drive. I love the cambiocorsa F1 gearbox. Although thats not REALLY an automatic, its still a manual shift but has no clutch pedal. They need to get a proper system worked out that mimmics the F1 paddle shifters, and shifts firmer. If that was an option, I'd have to think long and hard between that and the M6.. After driving the Maseratti around alot, I love the ease of the paddle shifters and the responsiveness near a M6

I'm calling shenanigans... ~73%M6 is not really anywhere near the proportion that will be bought.

I'm calling shenanigans... ~73%M6 is not really anywhere near the proportion that will be bought.

Yes, the flaw in this poll is that it is on an enthusiast website. But I just wanted to get an idea of what the people here thought.

Ya know what's funny is that I never really cared that GM used 4 speed automatics until recently. I don't know what it is, but I really would like to see the A6 make it in the Camaro.

And, hopefully, the A6 will get better fuel mileage than an A4, so there wont be a gas guzzler tax on the new Camaro/GTO.

I have to adjust my vote. I said M6, but depending on price, performance, and feel, I might just get the auto. Much as I think a sports car should run a clutch, the ability to shift makes up for 90% of that and you dont have to work it when in heavy traffic. Mostly depends on price.

Well, since I just swapped an M6 into my '02, do I then get an A6 in the 5th-gen so my g/f can actually drive the car? :shrug: (she still refuses to "try" to learn driving my car now :rolleyes: ). I have nothing against an automatic, just so long as it can actually handle all the power that the big V8 will throw at it ;).

BUT, since the new car is going to have IRS, that would probably make it the better handling car for a road course, in which case, I'd have to opt for the 6-speed unless I wanted to roast another automatic on the track?! :rolleyes:

.....oh, decision, decisions ;). While a true paddle-shifted manual (not an automatic with "paddle shift") would be great, I don't see it being an option (or a "cheap" option, if it even is one). There's a good chance I'll continue using my '02 for street/strip/track use with the M6, and I'll probably get an A6 in the new car so it'll be a "practical" everyday car, and be better for 1/4 mile racing (with the "big" 7.0L V8 :yes: ).

im gonna opt for the 6 speed auto. ive been following this piece of work for a bit now. the tranny is quite the unit. i see great things for it. its like a th400 with 6 gears:D since i drag race th400's and have always loved the technology in hydraulic transmissions. im gonna give it a chance. with the power rating matching the T-56 thats saying alot for an auto "rating" and the GVW is rated to 8000lbs in it. its one beefy unit with close gearing, shift selecting etc. i see it being just as capable as a manual and just as fun:cool:

I would only buy the M6.

M6 definitly, no doubt. as far as im concerned there is not other option.

My buddy just bought a brand-new LS2-C6-A6 and loves it. He sold his 99 LS1-C5-M6 and has zero regrets. He had to wait two extra months to get the A6. I'd trade in my M6 for a paddle shift anyday.

m6 = m6xm6=m6 and only m6 and i say it again m6 can u hear me now...lol

The manual isn't an option with my 90 minute, pure traffic commute each way. I wouldn't have gotten an auto 4 speed since the mileage would be brutal - see the difference with the GTO for an idea. Now that an A6 is comparable in speed and mileage, the Camaro is now an option for me. Without an A6, I would still drive my Hyundai come 2009.

I would have to go with a M6. Way too much fun when I can bang around the gears when I want.;)

Jeff

i voted m6 but if it had a slap shifter in an a6 that would be cool but you still cannt control the power in an a6 like you can in a m6.:cool:

I drive stick, always have, always will. My last girlfriend drove stick (rather well, I might add :yes: ) when we met. Even if my next girlfriend or future wife doesn't drive stick or want to learn, I will continue to own and drive a stick shift. It's the only way to drive, and for certain the only way to build a Camaro.

I don't care how well new automatics (or semi-automatics or slap shifts or sport shifts or whatever you choose to call them) are built, you're not one with the car if it does it all for you.

You might as well buy a Cadillac or Buick.

As long as there is no A4, an A5/A6 would be great. The closer gear ratios are well needed. You can't beat an auto+stall at the strip either.

A6!!! may be i'm stupid..... but i'm already thinking to put nitrous :D

I say M6 without a doubt.

My first car (a 69 Camaro was an auto and I changed it to a 4speed). My 87 Camaro was an automatic and I literally got bored driving it....it was just so mundane...get in put it in gear and just point and steer...no excitement.

My next Camaro (if I get it) will 100% have a manual. I just like the interaction of me and the car better.

if it is a A6 like my VW Jetta's DSG, it is an electronically controlled manual(no torque convertor), then I'd be interested...if it could be built to hold SERIOUS power. The clutches in my DSG are only good for 250-ish ft lbs, which is easy in a chipped Diesel VW...one for a Camaro would need to be capable of holding about 550 tq for what I am planning.

I guess I need to do some research on this A6.

like i would've picked an auto ,lol!!!! :D

M6 all the way

M6 in general is just more fun to drive that A6. I have driven auto most of my life...got a Z28 M5, I will never go back to automatic in any car I buy.

I'd always go with a manual in a sports car unless I don't have a choice (budget, used car)

I don't plan on making it a track only car, and I don't plan on spending all of my time in traffic.....even if I did, M6.

m6....much fun

Well I've had the A4 and thr M6 and I actually miss shifting even in traffic. I'g get the manual no matter how many gear choices the auto has. I also don't have to "sell" this to to wife or S/O so just for me its a different story than some whom are married.

M6 for me.

A6 with a converter and 4.10s in the back :D

I'm kind of known as a Mopar guy, though I have a long history with GM products too.

The reason I don't presently own an SRT Charger is because it doesn't come with a M6. An auto is fine in a minivan or SUV, or even in a luxury car, but I just can't deal with a manual trans in a modern high performance car.

When I order my Camaro (and I will be ordering one unless they totally screw it up between now and production), it'll be 1) black/black, 2) stupidly fast, and 3) equipped with a manual trans.

A6 with a converter and 4.10s in the back :D

3.73's for me please with a 3000 stall

I put in M6. Shifting gives me something to do while I'm driving. It would be nice if the pedals were more conducive to heal-toe technique.

I just hope that working on the tranny is a little easier. The things a real b**** to bleed. Then there's the cold mornings where I have about 1" of slack in the clutch pedal.

When I order my Camaro (and I will be ordering one unless they totally screw it up between now and production), it'll be 1) black/black, 2) stupidly fast, and 3) equipped with a manual trans.

Ditto. Although I want silver/black. I commute in a manual trans car now, so I've put my money where my mouth is, and I'll do it again in when the second year starts production.

CVT



He may have been joking but If I wouldn't be shifting myself, CVT would be sweet. Still, my votes for M6

im surprised as to how many of you want an A6. Paddle shifting is NO fun. its pointless. it definately does NOT feel or act anything close to a manual transmission in any way.

hopefully its better than the auto/manual tranny's (i forget what they're called) in the newer M3's. Those things are complete garbage. I drove one and was surprised as to how slow those things react. even at the highest/firmest shift settings, the shifts would LAG big time. I would "shift" it about 200-300rpm before redline and it would still just bounce off the rev limiter. they should just leave manual shifting to manual transmissions with foot pedal clutches.

What about the 7-speed transmission I've been hearing about?

I'm torn of this issue, I think the paddle shifting in the C6 is terrible. I wouldn't mind a regular auto 6 with no paddle shift. If was offered with a paddle shift delete I would strongly have to consider it. But it all depends on how "quality" the M6 feels. This car will be mostly a daily driver for me in the warm months so if it shifts like a 4th gen forget it I'm goin A6, but if it feels like a C6 T56 I'm rowing.

He may have been joking but If I wouldn't be shifting myself, CVT would be sweet. Still, my votes for M6
CVT's can't handle that much power. Nissan Altima is pushing it with their v6. I doubt that they will offer it only for the v6 model. CVT wouldn't even be considered for Camaro for a long time, if ever.

manual please.

3.73's for me please with a 3000 stall

booo, what's the final drive on the A6? If it IS a double overdrive we could knock down 4.10's not problem like the M6 guys.

3000 stall is weak, probably SS3800 for me.



I think a stalled/geared LS3 with an A6 would be a BLAST to drive!

Auto for me.

A6 VS M6...

My decision will be based on which tranny can handle more power, which is faster, and which one is easier to live with.

Definately a fan of paddle shifters. Not crazy about the thumb shifters on the C6.

So I won't decide on M6 or A6 until they come out and get comparison tested.

I have a C6 w/ a manual for the twisties and my Camaro will have an auto for drag racing w/ the addition of a big stall. The only way to drag race...:cool:

Three pedals and a stick that follows a |-|-|-' sort of pattern for me. It's too big a part of the enjoyment of driving, and not really that much of a burden in traffic.

We haven't owned a car with an automatic transmission of any sort in over 35 years, and have no desire to start now.

Norm

Driving with clutch and shifter makes me feel in control of all those horses underneath the hood.

Although a paddle shifted manual might be interesting.

although I wouldn't mind an A6, i'm opting for the M6 because my girlfriend can't drive stick and its the only way she'll accept not being able to drive it without getting all pissy. :thumb:

A6 is still outpaced by some margin, not a surprise.

I'll take an Auto thank you! I don't need the hassle of shuffling my long legs around just to keep things moving. Hopefully the A6 will be performance tuned with paddle shifters, that would be nice.

Isn't it funny that 30% voted auto. But when Chevy puts it into production the numbers will be more like 80% auto, 20% manual. Thats how it was when I bought my 98 TA ws6 new. Unfortuneatly I didn't order one so when I went to a dealer to buy they were looking for a black 6sp. I told him the color was optional but I really wanted a 6sp. They looked for 6mos and summer was coming to an end so I did the stupidest thing and settled for a red auto, NOOO! I'll never let that happen again even if I have to wait 2 years.

Isn't it funny that 30% voted auto. But when Chevy puts it into production the numbers will be more like 80% auto, 20% manual.
That's true, but I think a lot of the problem is the DEALERS and not the car BUYERS. My story on how I bought my car is similar to yours ... except without the wait ;) ... I walked into the dealership, there was this shiny black Z28, T-tops, ground effects, and I just said "YES!!! :yes: :bow:" ... oh, but it had an automatic :rolleyes: (I really wanted a 6-speed too, but I justified getting the auto to myself. After ~4 years, look what tranny went into my car ;)).

I think if everyone ORDERED which transmission they want, the numbers would probably be much closer to ~50/50 than they always were (I think it truly was around ~75% / ~25% :think: ).

yeah if i ever get this car... its going to be bought used, and i buy things for the fun and to use it... i would have it as a toy car and beat the **** out of it and actually use and have fun with what i paid for... its the same way wiht anything... i know kids who always tried not to scuff up their bikes and whatnot whereas im taking mine off a 6 foot dirt ramp and landing and running into a tree... anythings fixable and if you have fun with it thats all that matters in my eyes...

The problem is fewer and fewer people even know how to drive a stick shift anymore. Dealers order more of what they know everyone can drive.

Isn't it funny that 30% voted auto. But when Chevy puts it into production the numbers will be more like 80% auto, 20% manual.

That would most likely be due to this being a site for enthusiasts, not the general public. If that poll were taken w/ the general public it would be much higher for Auto.

I, myself, have absolutely no interest in a manual. Nothing anyone can do/say will ever change my opinion that it's a complete aggravation.

For what the car costs, it SHOULD drive itself, I shouldn't have to do anything but turn it on and hit the gas.

Both my mother and father have said they'd never go back to manual after driving auto's. I've only driven a manual a couple times, but I hated every second.

I, myself, have absolutely no interest in a manual. Nothing anyone can do/say will ever change my opinion that it's a complete aggravation ..... I've only driven a manual a couple times, but I hated every second.
Get your flame suit on buddy, this could hurt a little!!!! ;)

Not until you REALLY LEARN to drive a standard, do you TRULY appreciate how much fun it is. Suddenly, "automatic" seems so ... boring :shrug: ... almost like punishment! :rolleyes:

Now don't get me wrong, my car came as an A4 (my "choice") but something deep inside of me always pined for the the M6. Once I got into road racing events, instead of just 1/4 mile racing, the M6 became a necessity :yes: ... heck, I smoked the A4 because of the road racing!!

However, all that said, you fit perfectly into the "average driver" category, and that's who does/will buy most cars on the road. Most are autos, and that's fine with me, as long as they (Camaros) sell!! :thumb: :)

I agree with the captain. As long as people are buying camaros and keeping the car ALIVE, I'm good.

I would also be MUCH more willing to accept a good deal on a new camaro if it has an A6 with paddle shifters instead of the boring 'ol A4.

And you can still tell the stupid girls its too complicated for them to get, and the paddles must be used.. hahaha

It's going to be a tough choice for me. In the 4th gen I had to have the m6 (gas mileage), a4 just wouldn't cut it. I got 29 mpg on the highway! With the A6 being an option, assuming the mileage is the same or close, I'll have a tough choice to make. I suppose I'll have to drive them both and go from there, the auto could suck. This car will be my daily driver, and an hour in stop and go traffic with a clutch gets old, but I love it when not in traffic!http://www.mofbody.com/forums/images/smiles/burnout.gif

M6 all the way the A5 in my 300 is horrible at upshifting(manual mode) though down is ok as long as the ESP is off. Even my neighbors SRT-8(charger) sux at upshifting in manuel mode.

i think its funny that only about 40% of people voted A6, when in all actuality half the camaros sold will be base v6's with a6 tranny's for teenage girls who convinced their daddy to buy them a fast-looking car.

Not that surprising, really. The people with the most early awareness of the car will be from enthusiast community, which is skewed far more toward a manual transmission than is the general car buying population at large. That it is only 60 manual/40 automatic probably speaks to a fairly heavy interest from the drag racing segment.


Norm

Every sports car should have a manual option. While there have a ton of improvements that GM has made to their auto selection since they finally abandoned the 4L60, it still doesn't compare to the feeling of slamming a good shift or working the clutch right to put the power down.

Don't worry, I know about you quarter mile guys, but you all swap out for th350s or 400s anyways when you get serious ;)

as my 95Z is an A4 and after driving a LS1 WS6 M6, I want a M6. I am also debating on a T56 swap.

All my life, I've always had automatics, until last October when I got my Z06.

I will never, ever, have another automatic performance car.

I never knew what fun I was missing out on. :D

if u can use the shifter to shift in manual mode instead of paddles (reminds me of a euro-type thing) then ill get the A6..if not..M6 most likely

I'll be a daily driver and Traffic Here in L.A is absolutely terrible . Ill stick to an A6. :D

I've always enjoyed bangning gears on my fun cars, M6 for me

Though I respect the M6 and would choose one hands down if it was against an A4...the A6 w/ paddle shift just seems to appealing.

it's too close to vote for me yet, I have to drive one. If the sifts suck on the A6, then I'm picknig up a M6.

Though I respect the M6 and would choose one hands down if it was against an A4...the A6 w/ paddle shift just seems to appealing.

it's too close to vote for me yet, I have to drive one. If the sifts suck on the A6, then I'm picknig up a M6.

werd...not only that. what are us m6 lovers gonna do against a stalled a6? :confused: and if they are designed anything right we wont even have the advantage from a roll anymore!:cry: agreed m6 hands down for fun and road course guys...but it seems like a6 is gonna be a better straight line car and DD

werd...not only that. what are us m6 lovers gonna do against a stalled a6? :confused: and if they are designed anything right we wont even have the advantage from a roll anymore!:cry: agreed m6 hands down for fun and road course guys...but it seems like a6 is gonna be a better straight line car and DD


HA....Wait till you see the bill on rebuilding the A6 should your stall converter kill it. Maybe that will change someones tune. :bow:

I have a suspision the A6 is gonna be pricey to build. Its a new desighn and a little more complex. The m6 already has a great track record for eing strong and reliable.

As far as not having a chance from a roll....I dont know :cool: Depends on whos driving the m6

M.6 cuz it's fun. But also cuz it's good on gas, and better to control in the winter as most autos with shifters are not very smooth (kind of scary in a big v8 rwd vehicle in the slush).

Sports or muscle car... has to be a manual. Auto's are fine for all the "blah" cars out there.

I have a 6 speed and wouldn't want anything else, except a drag tranny that is manual. Okay thats my 2 cents, peace.


PS. I gotta give the auto guys big ups though, I have seen some nasty autos!

I finally went with M6. the reason is simple: I drove my dads new car with autmatic transmission today and I just feel out of control. It's slow after the corners and it's just doesn't feel right. So M6 for me.

M6 :cool:

ill take a 6spd manual. i love downshifting on the highway!