94 z28 VS 80'x RX7?

A kid at school wants me to race, we was sappose to race couple months ago, but oddly enough he ripps out his clutch the day before the race. He wanted to race for like 2 miles, I thought this was kind of stupid myself because 2 miles going 100+ = huge finds court, danger of getting pulled over. So I may drag race him, what do you guys think? His car has a V6 5 speed( I think)(and looks like its been to hell, dusty ect.) and I have an lt1 stock with an exhaust leak and an A4 with 2.73's. He asked how fast I was in the quarter and I said stock z28's go around 100, and he said "slow take off". So who would win?

Id go out on a limb.. and say you.. but i need to know whats done to the rx7.. more than likely its rotory.. maybe turbo? not sure what they do to those 1st gen rx7s(dunno what they run stock either) but my guess is its not gonna be real fast...

Id go out on a limb.. and say you.. but i need to know whats done to the rx7.. more than likely its rotory.. maybe turbo? not sure what they do to those 1st gen rx7s(dunno what they run stock either) but my guess is its not gonna be real fast... I think its stock there defently no turbo's or nothing of that sort on it. Not even a rotory as far as I know. Just in case though, what if it does have a rotory motor in it? Without turbo or NOS or anything of that sort.

I vote you. Don't let old rotory engines scare you... old mazda rotory without mods are like old turbos they spool up slow and are only good on top end. The LT1 you have will pull hard down low and the A4 means no chance of mis shift :cool:

It does have a rotary. RX7's came with rotories. Their one of the only cars that does.

That one, if its stock, is non-turbo, and will, at best, be a 16-17 second car ( If its stock ) ... Now if he has a turbo motor from a newer 2nd gen (Possible )or 3rd gen ( Doubtful ) he could give ya a run for your money. Cause if he went through the trouble of doing a motor swap, you know it aint stock. And they respond well to mods. They just dont last long. And definaly take him from a stop, not a roll. That car will fall on its face from a stop. Non turbo rotories make NO TQ, and especailly not down low.

This kid sounds like a boner who dont know nuthing about cars. That car is more competition for a 3.1 Camaro, or something.

You cvouldnt get a Turbo RX7 until 88' or 89' I think and the Turbo II's came out in 90 or 91? Even at that though, I rode in a Turbo II that was modded, and even it felt like a dog until it wound out. I was not impressed. I mean, I bet it was deep in 14's but ...

I figured id beat him, He says his car will do 140(Im douting that but), and thats one of the reasons I do not want to do a 2 mile race, the other reason is my car shuts off at 108? Ill ask him if he wants to drag, im sure he will say no though. If not then I guess it shows where we stand, I offerd him a race, he never showed first time, hes asked for a race 2 times since. Ill just spank him in a drag, that way he can come off his "my cars a beast" throne he sits on at school.

What do you mean "shuts off at 108mph"? Does it hit redline at that speed? I think top speed of the 94 Z28 was like 155mph or something...

What do you mean "shuts off at 108mph"? Does it hit redline at that speed? I think top speed of the 94 Z28 was like 155mph or something... Its speed limiter. Id have it taken off, but until I break 108 in the quarter, im not because I might get out of hand.

race him for money. I had a 1991 mazda rx7 and that was slow as sh**. I raced like 4 people in it and then I couldnt take it anymore so I sold it. 80s and pre 93 rx7's come with 1.3 liter two rotor rotary motors. Unless they are turboed they are slow, but thats not for just that motor, any non-turbo rotory is slow, thats how they are. One more thing, from a stop, they have absolutely no power, thats why he wants to race from a roll. Also they have no redline, at least thats what mazda sais.
I think rx7 is no competition for the LT1, I raced a 4 cylinder 2.0l stock mx6 with my rx7 and I got killed, so that will give you an idea of how slow they are. And my rx7 was in pretty good shape, it wasnt a beater.

he's dead
race him for gas money
make it funny and go from a 10 mph roll
soon as your car downshifts youll leave his ass
that way you can really destroy his ego by asking why he hit the brakes
trust me it's one of those priceless moments:D

The Turbo II that I test drove, had some sort of CAI attached to the top mount intercooler. Full exhaust: Down pipe, no cats, some sort of loud ass non-fart-can muffler. And the boost was cranked to 14psi I think he said?

Regardless, it felt SIGNIFICANTLY slower than my ( At the time ) stock LT1 ... NO TQ, but it wound out to like 9 grand lol. It sounded mean as hell. It did have a nice top end to it, but it was turboed, modded, and still a good bit slower ...

even the newer 2004+ rx8 are crappy, i drove an auto rx8 and that was no competition for an lt1, maybe itll give a run to early 80s 305 z28s that have like 160hp.

RX-8's are usually a mid 14 sec- high 14 sec car. I wouldnt say no competition for a stock lt1. 250bhp on a 2940 lb car. They only have 159 lb/ft torque so thats why they "feel slow".

You should have no problem with that rx-7. If its dusty and all crappy i doubt that he has taken car of the engine let alone modded it.

EDIT: autos only have 197 hp

there is no way the rx8 i drove was a 14 sec. car, we test drove it with my friend and we were shocked by how slow it was. I dont know how that car can break 14s even with a stick.

I have the April '03 C&D where they did road tests between the Cobra, G35 and RX8. Of course the Cobra was ranked last by C&D:rolleyes:, and the RX8 was 1st because it was brand new and Mazda probably paid C&D a good amount of money to rank it 1st. They tested the 6 speed and i think the auto has less hp :shrug:. They listed 0-60 in 5.9sec. and standing 1/4 in 14.5 at 96mph.

i didnt mean to say you are wrong idahoLT1, i know that 1.4 mile times for rx8 does say mid 14s, but Im guessing they are utopian 1.4 miles, I dont see someone buying an rx8 and running 14s with it their first time at the track.

I highly doubt it too. the s2000 was supposed to be wicked fast but it takes an expert driver to launch them correctly and get the best time. I wouldnt be suprised to see one here run a high 15. There was a Z3 that ran a 17.4 at like 83mph.:confused:

1st gen RX7's have a lot of engine swaps available that make them killer sleeper cars:

http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/

early 90s and 80s should be 2nd gen. 70s body is 1st gen, I think. Plus, I doubt that his car is a sleeper, he sais its all beat up.

Ya his car is a beater, will race soon enough so I can put an end to this :D

early 90s and 80s should be 2nd gen. 70s body is 1st gen, I think. Plus, I doubt that his car is a sleeper, he sais its all beat up.

79-85 is the first gen, second gen was 86-91, 3rd gen form 93-95. I didn't say his was a sleeper, I said they CAN be great sleepers.

yea but any crappy car can be a sleeper, like a crx or something, on youtube there are lots of videos of late 80s rx7 with ls1/lt1 swaps.

Ya his car is a beater, will race soon enough so I can put an end to this :D
I'm going to laugh if he rips you a new *******, i've been in the Rx-7 scene my whole life (my dad worked for racing beat) don't let those cars fool you, in about 3 hours i can add 30hp to a N/A 13B with less than 20 bucks. What i'm trying to say is rotaries can be modded to hell with not much work at all, good luck.

i doubt it.

I'm going to laugh if he rips you a new *******, i've been in the Rx-7 scene my whole life (my dad worked for racing beat) don't let those cars fool you, in about 3 hours i can add 30hp to a N/A 13B with less than 20 bucks. What i'm trying to say is rotaries can be modded to hell with not much work at all, good luck. When he rips me a new *******? Nice words there buddy go waste someone elses time.

Race him and tell us what happens