dodge avenger r/t

looks like a mini charger.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/04/exposed-2007-dodge-avenger/

That is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen :barf:

Truck styling does not work on cars.

Truck styling does not work on cars.

i definately dig that.. looks good

ouch!- At least the Charger had RWD and a V8 option that help offset its 'so-so' appearance but this thing just looks bad.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-dodge-avenger-spied.jpg

by the way, i also love the charger's styling, so the fact that this looks like a "mini-charger" is a huge plus imo

my god is that horrible looking, looks like a bad photoshop

mini charger?

large pile of crap?

Uggh, from a guy that likes the Charger, I hate that thing...It looks like the caliber's ugly younger brother...the caliber's ugly younger brother. <--I can't believe they made something worse!!!

Looks like a scrunched up Calibre.

I like it alot better than the Sebring.

I don't like the idea of copying the Charger (dilutes the Charger's unique styling), but overall, not bad.

I don't like the idea of copying the Charger (dilutes the Charger's unique styling), but overall, not bad.

I agree with that. I think it looks ok. It's definatly love it or hate it styling

Another attempt at small, medium and large "styling"....and I use the word "styling" loosely here.

Did their "stylists" just get out of college or what? Amateur at best.

I thought the new Sebring was semi-unique looking, and pretty classy for the market segment.

This, while not bad looking, just blends in with the crowd, even though it is trying really really hard not to.

What a shame to use that nameplate again. The old one atleast looked pretty decent and car-like. Sometimes I think the design of the entire auto industry has just gone to sh**...

If that thing had a Bowtie on the front, everyone here would be screaming "what a bada** looking car. It has all the visual excitement the Malibu doesn't have."

FWIW, the front isn't as blunt-nosed as the Charger, so IMO it looks a little better that way but without question, its a Charger ripoff. With that being said? I kinda like the thing...hope the interior quality is up to snuff. Based on what I've seen from the Caliber and Charger, I doubt it is...

If that thing had a Bowtie on the front, everyone here would be screaming "what a bada** looking car. It has all the visual excitement the Malibu doesn't have."

FWIW, the front isn't as blunt-nosed as the Charger, so IMO it looks a little better that way but without question, its a Charger ripoff. With that being said? I kinda like the thing...hope the interior quality is up to snuff. Based on what I've seen from the Caliber and Charger, I doubt it is...
If that thing had a bow tie on it, I think I'd have to give someone over at GM a swift kick in the nuts.

At least the styling is cohesive, something that can't be said about the Sebring. Personally, I don't think it's that bad... though polarizing, it shows some consistant design direction.

If that thing had a Bowtie on the front, everyone here would be screaming "what a bada** looking car. It has all the visual excitement the Malibu doesn't have."

FWIW, the front isn't as blunt-nosed as the Charger, so IMO it looks a little better that way but without question, its a Charger ripoff. With that being said? I kinda like the thing...hope the interior quality is up to snuff. Based on what I've seen from the Caliber and Charger, I doubt it is...
Jason has it been said what the Avenger's powertrains will be? Any hope for a 4.0 V6 with a stick?

Will they make a coupe version?

Looks okay to me. I agree with the sentiment that if it was a Chevy, some would hold different opinions. It's better than the Malibu.

Jason has it been said what the Avenger's powertrains will be? Any hope for a 4.0 V6 with a stick?
I wouldn't expect anything less then what is going to be offered in the Sebring.

If that thing had a bow tie on it, I think I'd have to give someone over at GM a swift kick in the nuts.

Seriously doubt it.

I didn't read any newspaper reports on any GM people getting their "nuts" kicked when the new Malibu came out.

jrp4uc is right. Opinions would be far more positive if it had a bowtie on it.

I thought the new Sebring was semi-unique looking, and pretty classy for the market segment.

This, while not bad looking, just blends in with the crowd, even though it is trying really really hard not to.

I'd probally have a better opinion of the Sebring if I didn't know the design was based on the Aeroflite concept. But knowing that tidbit, then looking at the execution leaves me kind of cold.

On the positive side, I think the interior design is fantastic. :)

If that thing had a Bowtie on the front, everyone here would be screaming "what a bada** looking car. It has all the visual excitement the Malibu doesn't have."




Not from me, I don't like the Malibu either.

I'm not saying y'all are gonna like it, but there is no question that some pretty sweet designs from rival manufacturers get chewed up and spit out on this board. I expect that, but still...it looks like a mean, sweet car to me for its price class.

It should have the same engines as the Sebring...174hp 2.4 Hyundai/Chrysler 4 popper, 190hp 2.7 Chrysler V6, 235hp (Mistubishi???) 3.5 V6...

235hp (Mistubishi???) 3.5 V6...needs 250hp.

Put me under the "Hate it" catagory.

David

Looks good to me. Has a nice beefy look. I'd probably buy that over anything on the Chevy lot at the moment (and I've never owned anything but Chevy's).

Not bad, but the rear needs to lose the Charger photocopy.

I think the charger r/t and srt8 are as "sweet" as they come, so this "mini-charger" looks very nice to me. I'd still opt for the charger, but I would not discount this based on looks.

Looks like ****. The LX cars can pull of the brickish styling because they have the road presence to do so... Put that on a smaller car and it looks like you had a lot of Lego blocks laying around...:rolleyes:

The old Stratus was WAY better.

http://api.cdmdata.m7z.net/ftproot/DealerFiles/5947/Photos/1B3EL46X85N696692-0.jpg

This is a case where less is more. The 300/Charger have already lost much of their distinction because there are a billion on the road. Start putting that on every car in the lineup its gonna get old real quick.

Just a side note to all who hate the design, it's great that Chrysler took a risk with the Charger-like design. Personally, though I think it looks OK, I wish they didn't make a mini-Charger for the reason I mentioned before.

That said, most automakers take a safe approach when it comes to their bread & butter cars, which the Stratus and Avenger will be for Chrysler. Though most will want a Charger/300, it's going to be the Stratus/Avenger that's going to need to be the core of sales, both fleet & retail.

Great design IMO needs to be risky, and create love-it/hate-it camps.

Even if there are people who hate the look of something, as long as you have a group who are equally adamant about loving the looks, even if the haters outnumber the fans, it's going to be a success and owners are going to beam about their car to others. :)

Great design IMO needs to be risky, and create love-it/hate-it camps.

Even if there are people who hate the look of something, as long as you have a group who are equally adamant about loving the looks, even if the haters outnumber the fans, it's going to be a success and owners are going to beam about their car to others. :)

i've been saying that for a while.. agree 100%

Have the Dodge reps been handing out crack at your dealer meetings?

If that thing had a Bowtie on the front, everyone here would be screaming "what a bada** looking car. It has all the visual excitement the Malibu doesn't have."

FWIW, the front isn't as blunt-nosed as the Charger, so IMO it looks a little better that way but without question, its a Charger ripoff. With that being said? I kinda like the thing...hope the interior quality is up to snuff. Based on what I've seen from the Caliber and Charger, I doubt it is...

I actually liked the look of the Charger, the Magnum, and even the Calibur wasnt bad.

But now this styling theme is getting old REAL fast. The Charger and Magnum were unique, but now it seems as if they have mini versions as well. Wheres the variety? Do they want all their cars to look the same?

C'mon Chrysler you've been on a roll. Dont dilute your more badass cars with smaller carbon copies...

I see what Guy is getting at, most people are gonna want the charger/300 but the avenger/sebring will be more in their price range so they'll take the cheaper the car that looks like the more expensive one. I'm not a fan of the styling cause it looks to much like scrunched up charger, this will probably come out wrong but it looks too much for the car that it is.

The old Stratus was WAY better.

http://api.cdmdata.m7z.net/ftproot/DealerFiles/5947/Photos/1B3EL46X85N696692-0.jpg


:tired: Come on, either one of these is an improvement...

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-dodge-avenger-spied.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/20052679-E.jpg

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-dodge-avenger-spied.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/20052681-E.jpg

:think:

I'd still take a Stratus 2 door RT any day of the week and twice on Sunday over a Malibu SS or Avenger RT.

Branden,
We have never been known to smoke the ganja, but I will say one thing...after going over August's sales performance the other day, I did want to head to the local tavern for a stiff drink. And yes, I was sober when I made the comment about the Avenger's looks...I personally like it.

unvc,
I totally agree with you there...I had an '04 Stratus R/T coupe for my second or third demo (I get a new one every 60 days, because I drive 600 miles a week!!!), and while I love the 300M I have now, and especially loved the 2 300Cs I've had, that Stratus coupe was probably one of the more underrated cars made in the past 5 years. All the good things about the Eclipse (yes, there were a few things!!!) without the ugly body. The interior was crap, but for the $$$? I think it was a nice car...

Oh, and for the record...there is CURRENTLY no 2 door Avenger planned, but that could supposedly change. We all know how Trevor Creed appears to be doing a 180 on 2 door models ;)

Whatever happens, there will be no Sebring coupe...

Jerry, thanks for posting the side-by-side with the current Malibu. The shape is more similar than I realized.

The first thing I thought of when I saw it was the Cobalt 4-door, which I think looks a bit awkward.

It looks good enough to sell. I wouldn't buy one, but I'm not in the market, so my opinion is irrelevant. :shrug:

Great design IMO needs to be risky, and create love-it/hate-it camps.

Even if there are people who hate the look of something, as long as you have a group who are equally adamant about loving the looks, even if the haters outnumber the fans, it's going to be a success and owners are going to beam about their car to others. :)
Aztek owners agree with that.

:tired: Come on, either one of these is an improvement...

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/2-2007-dodge-avenger-spied.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/20052679-E.jpg

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/3-2007-dodge-avenger-spied.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/20052681-E.jpg

:think:

The old Stratus pictured is FAR better looking than that hideous Malibu.

I like the Avenger/old Stratus about equal. They are totally different styles and I like both.

I actually liked the look of the Charger, the Magnum, and even the Calibur wasnt bad.

But now this styling theme is getting old REAL fast. The Charger and Magnum were unique, but now it seems as if they have mini versions as well. Wheres the variety? Do they want all their cars to look the same?

C'mon Chrysler you've been on a roll. Dont dilute your more badass cars with smaller carbon copies...

That's the thing with high styled cars. They DO get old fast. On the flip side, low keyed understated cars last longer. The unfortunate thing is the more stylish the car, the more often it needs to be restyled.

The 300, while still an eyecatcher, is about halfway to the stale mark, while Ford can probally sell the Five Hundred (with grille & light changes) pretty much forever.

Ironically, the 300 is going to be restyled next year while the Five Hundred is, in fact, going to get a new grille and lights. :)

Who wants to be the first to photoshop an Avenger coupe? :)

Who wants to be the first to photoshop an Avenger coupe? :)

I'm pretty sure a coupe will come, but it won't be an Avenger.

.......and I pray they don't make a "mini-Challenger" either. :no:

Aztek owners agree with that.

When I said that the haters could outnumber the fans and something still being a success, I wasn't quite refering to lopsided numbers resembling Custer at Little Bighorn. :lol:

I don't see anything special with the new design.:o

you know.. i do like the charger, and this car as well.. but i can agree with those that are saying that this takes away from the charger's exclusivity in styling.. having the whole Dodge lineup look like a charger definately makes that design scheme grow old so much faster

Of course with all of the special editions they've done for the Charger, you think Dodge would do an "IROC" Avenger? :think: ;) While whoever's photochopping, maybe he can work on that too.

http://www.ovaltrack.com/martin/Cars/94iroc.gif

Btw, where is the outcry over the four doors?? :D

Ive always been a fan of the 2 DOOR Last gen Stratus and Avenger but I can't really say I like this new avenger. I'd like to see how it looks as a 2 door.

I don't think they should have made it a mini Charger. Guess Dodge only wants to have 2 or 3 vehicle designs.

The Charger looked really awkward in 2D, but I like it quite a bit in 3D. This one looks similarly awkward in the rear quarter, but I look forward to seeing it in person.

Now the Sebring ... hmm, not sure about the looks of that one. I'm surprised they carried over the Crossfire design theme, especially since that car didn't seem to catch on. The concept car was eye catching (in a good way) though, Aeroflight?

Predictions for the SRT-X version? 300HP SRT-4 would be cool. Does this new platform it is on support AWD?

looks like a charger in the front and the ass end of a cobalt.

Predictions for the SRT-X version? 300HP SRT-4 would be cool. Does this new platform it is on support AWD?

It's on a new Mitsubishi chassis that's designed to support both FWD & AWD. :)