Turbo SS gives it to Ford GT

downwithmustang
08-25-2006, 03:07 PM
Not my story nor my car but what a good races http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-SS-vs-Ford-GT

John M
08-25-2006, 03:24 PM
That was absolutely awesome.

I love playing the underdog. I know people don't think of an SS as a sleeper but it is when you're in the $150k+ price range.

The GT owner was pretty sure of himself, offering to go for money before he knew anything about the car.

Klypto
08-25-2006, 03:32 PM
hawt

km9v
08-25-2006, 03:34 PM
Sweeeet! The GT driver probably didn't know how to drive either.

1987IROC350
08-25-2006, 03:40 PM
Nice

myslowcamaro
08-25-2006, 03:56 PM
Sweeeet! The GT driver probably didn't know how to drive either.

who knows, but 550 rwhp should put the ss in the high 10's, low 11's. the gt with a pulley can hit 10.8 vs stock 11.7 so even if he knew how to drive i think he was outmatched

Kris93/95Z28
08-25-2006, 04:22 PM
Ouch, that has to be embarrassing... Losing to a car that costs $130,000 less after asking him to run for money.

CamaroRacing12
08-25-2006, 07:01 PM
haha yea....i love it my lil bro loves those GT's and i just called him in here to show him that camaros rule

OUTCAST
08-25-2006, 09:44 PM
Sweet, another ford gets beat down!!!!

MENEGRANDE
08-25-2006, 11:44 PM
Sweet!

'88Saleen
08-26-2006, 09:13 AM
It was a race between a highly moded car verse a stock automobile.basicly a apple and a orange.
The SS had a turbo. Was the GT stock?I know the GT costs 150k but too bad the LS1 was'nt that fast stock. Don't get me wrong, I love LS1's. I have one.
Just like this
You can build a Fox body to blow the doors off a stock new Z06 for less than half the price of the Z06. But who cares? Its just a modded car verse a stocker.
I like to see a race between 2 cars that have equal money in mods regardless of the cars purchase price
It could of been a different race with the GT if it had the same money in mods as the camaro did.

myslowcamaro
08-26-2006, 10:48 AM
It was a race between a highly moded car verse a stock automobile.basicly a apple and a orange.
The SS had a turbo. Was the GT stock?I know the GT costs 150k but too bad the LS1 was'nt that fast stock. Don't get me wrong, I love LS1's. I have one.
Just like this
You can build a Fox body to blow the doors off a stock new Z06 for less than half the price of the Z06. But who cares? Its just a modded car verse a stocker.
I like to see a race between 2 cars that have equal money in mods regardless of the cars purchase price
It could of been a different race with the GT if it had the same money in mods as the camaro did.

its kinda apples to oranges unless you consider forced induction vs forced induction. stock ss vs the gt without the s/c, how would that fair? there will always be an angle to the arguement with either overall cost vs competition, stock vs stock, etc. what would either the ss owner or gt owner say if they got schooled by the dodge caravan that runs low 11's, high 10's? cant justify that beating in any way imo

stereomandan
08-26-2006, 01:20 PM
Those guys were a couple of @sses. I got tired of listening to them after the first 10 seconds. Fast SS though. :bow:

Dan

'88Saleen
08-26-2006, 02:01 PM
its kinda apples to oranges unless you consider forced induction vs forced induction. stock ss vs the gt without the s/c, how would that fair? there will always be an angle to the arguement with either overall cost vs competition, stock vs stock, etc. what would either the ss owner or gt owner say if they got schooled by the dodge caravan that runs low 11's, high 10's? cant justify that beating in any way imo

I'm just sayig that a modded car beating a stock car does'nt mean anything.It just shows that if you sink enough money into a LS1 it can beat a ford GT.I think that everyone already knows that if you sink enough money into ANY car that it could beat ANY car in stock trim.There has'nt been to many cars capable of times much quicker than a Ford GT So if anyone has sunk enough money into their car to run mid 10's. they could also beat a Ford GT or any stock production car.
its easier to have a 10 second modded car. Its not easy to get a low 11/high 10 second car in bone stock trim.Its IMO but I feel its way cooler to have a 11/10 second car thats stock than a modded one.
Also the Gt comes with a supercharger stock.Thats the way Ford decided to build it. They could of built a higher compression motor and made it N/A the same way gm stayed with building N/A power. How much boost can you safly run on a stock Ls1 block and pistons? Don't forget the GT engine is a 5.4 version of the '03-04 cobra's 4.6 engine.It does'nt take much at all for them to safly make 600 at the wheels.
The car in the video could have a built shortblock to go with the custon turbo system,turbo 400 trans,and 9 inch rear. That SS is not just modded. Its highly modded. could have as much as $10-$15 into engine.Its probally got has improved heads too. It aint no bolt on car.
If I got beat at the track in my 9 second Saleen by a mini van I'd just say I got beat.Most likely he sunk more money into that than I put in the saleen thats all. In competitive drag racing at the track is the car with the most $$$ into into it wins the majority of the time.

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korrrray34
08-26-2006, 05:20 PM
what kind of a dumb*ss would spend over a $100k on a ford? come on maaaaaaan, I can understand being patriotic and buying american but that is just dumb to spend that on a ford.

myslowcamaro
08-26-2006, 06:09 PM
what kind of a dumb*ss would spend over a $100k on a ford? come on maaaaaaan, I can understand being patriotic and buying american but that is just dumb to spend that on a ford.

8 years from now, im sure the z06 will be over 100k

downwithmustang
08-26-2006, 08:25 PM
what kind of a dumb*ss would spend over a $100k on a ford? come on maaaaaaan, I can understand being patriotic and buying american but that is just dumb to spend that on a ford.

Hey I down with Ford but give credit wheres it due. That car is a piece of history from American. It can cost what ever it wants.

frankthetank078
08-26-2006, 09:04 PM
this to 88saleen....That race was fair...it wasent apple to oragne considering they both had forced induction like myslowcamaro said, in a way its just personal preference from supercharger to turbocharger. In a stock for stock race that would necessarily not be far because the ford GT has a twin screw in it. That basically makes it no room for argument...if he wanted power he should have bought a chevy :metal: lol

merlinx31
08-26-2006, 09:18 PM
So if anyone has sunk enough money into their car to run mid 10's. they could also beat a Ford GT or any stock production car.

....if anyone sunk enough money into an SS they would probably still be $100k below the cost of that Ford.

downwithmustang
08-27-2006, 01:21 AM
Chevy N/A motor rules and the :bow: Camaro :bow: . If Chevy were to build sc or tc for their monster motors than they rule the world I'm on my 6 beer good nightttttttttttttttt

1BadAzzGT
08-27-2006, 10:23 AM
Those guys were a couple of @sses. I got tired of listening to them after the first 10 seconds. Fast SS though. :bow:

Dan

Yep they were very irritating and I closed the window after the first few seconds.

camzaro28
08-27-2006, 12:02 PM
they were just out having a good time, being fools. good vid though

FastZinTennessee
08-27-2006, 12:02 PM
That's a lot of s*** for turbo'ing your car and only beating a stock GT by 1 car on the interstate (and even that after starting the race about a half a car ahead anyway).

Those guys need to STFU. /thread

'88Saleen
09-02-2006, 08:25 AM
what kind of a dumb*ss would spend over a $100k on a ford? come on maaaaaaan, I can understand being patriotic and buying american but that is just dumb to spend that on a ford.

that chevy needed a built shortblock,ported heads,a turbo,turbo 400 tranny, and get this, a FORD rear to barely beat a bone stock Ford just like it came off the assembly line.
MerlinX. A stock verses stock race is the most fair race you can have between cars.That eliminates all aftermarket parts and mods so you can see what technology the car makers are putting into their cars. Ford developed the car to compete against much bigger dogs than the f body such as ferrari and Porsche.
Thats the first time I ever heard some say that a stock vs stock race is'nt fair. Its what a import owner might say to a ls1 owner.like this fictional quote of a typical import owner might say. " I'm gonna prove that imports are better than american muscle.Stock vs stock is unfair because my civic has only 4 cyl while ls1's have 8 cyl. so I'm gonna put $15k into my civic and get it to run high 12's and then you'll see how great imports are because i'll be able to beat a stock Ls1"
BTW. The Ford GT will blow the doors off anything in GM's showroom right now. But in a couple of years they will be introducing a supercharged version of the Z06 making 650hp!!!!!!!!!!

myslowcamaro
09-02-2006, 10:29 AM
BTW. The Ford GT will blow the doors off anything in GM's showroom right now.

i dont consider 11.7 (gt) vs 11.8 (z06) blowing the doors off.


Ford developed the car to compete against much bigger dogs than the f body such as ferrari and Porsche.


i agree with that, but lucky for ford, chevy never mass produced the zl1 572 . stock ran 9.7 and had the suspension to corner, not like a porsche but better than any previous f-body. estimated price tag was going to be $70k if produced.

its 2 diffrant arguements here, stock vs stock, i see your point. money wise, i see everyone elses

JakeRobb
09-03-2006, 12:53 PM
Yeah, but if you supercharge an LS1...

Oh, wait. :D

Plague
09-04-2006, 10:11 PM
A stock verses stock race is the most fair race you can have between cars.That eliminates all aftermarket parts and mods so you can see what technology the car makers are putting into their cars. Ford developed the car to compete against much bigger dogs than the f body such as ferrari and Porsche. Thats the first time I ever heard some say that a stock vs stock race is'nt fair.

Unless you are bracket raising, stock vs stock is not fair. That is why there are different racing classes.

SS RRR
09-05-2006, 12:38 AM
who knows, but 550 rwhp should put the ss in the high 10's, low 11's.
:think: :irk: :bang: :rolleyes:

scott9050
09-05-2006, 01:51 AM
i dont consider 11.7 (gt) vs 11.8 (z06) blowing the doors off.



The GT has already run 10.9's and trapped 133.

scott9050
09-05-2006, 01:52 AM
....if anyone sunk enough money into an SS they would probably still be $100k below the cost of that Ford.


I could do the same with a Mustang platform and be less than the SS. STFW? It's a total ricer argument. In the end I would rather have the GT.

Klypto
09-05-2006, 03:12 AM
I could do the same with a Mustang platform and be less than the SS. STFW? It's a total ricer argument. In the end I would rather have the GT.

what he said... the SS beat em.. yea, but its still a GT... yea i love chevy, but that car is badass either way you look at it....

but id still rather the ss :)

cory

SS RRR
09-05-2006, 04:25 AM
I could do the same with a Mustang platform and be less than the SS.
Lest we forget the money it costs to maintain a high hp project. Especially if something goes terribly wrong. In which, odds are something will happen.

myslowcamaro
09-05-2006, 02:08 PM
:think: :irk: :bang: :rolleyes:

:confused: what are you trying to say? ... in english please. did i give a slow time for 550rwhp? or are you one of those who think it wont hit the 10's with that hp? as far as a bery slow time for that hp, im saying worse case scenario (street tires, bad driver etc)

The GT has already run 10.9's and trapped 133

ive seen a vid on here like that on here too, but he mentioned mods like aftermarket pulley and something done to the exhaust. i wouldnt consider that stock. if you could point out an article, vid or something showing a stock gt running those times, then i will stand corrected.

bombebomb
09-05-2006, 05:25 PM
Spending 150k and only getting that much power is a total waste. Plus the Turboed SS was worth what? 50k MAX, drop 100k into the body of that SS and not only is it faster, but it even looks even more better then the Ford GT. The guy was dumb for putting 130-150k in a ford or any car for that matter. Building motors takes skill, buying them does not lol. Now with all that being said.

The guys in the ford GT are just like the trash mustang talkers. So they deserve to get beat.

IdahoLT1
09-05-2006, 06:22 PM
Spending 150k and only getting that much power is a total waste. Plus the Turboed SS was worth what? 50k MAX, drop 100k into the body of that SS and not only is it faster, but it even looks even more better then the Ford GT. The guy was dumb for putting 130-150k in a ford or any car for that matter. Building motors takes skill, buying them does not lol. Now with all that being said.

The guys in the ford GT are just like the trash mustang talkers. So they deserve to get beat.

Its about status and owning a rare car that is drooled on by most everyone. Lets say you own a $100k house and its in the "ghetto". Another person has a $1.5 million house in the hills and its 5 times as big. you could theoretically build that $100k house bigger and better with less money but its still in the "ghetto". Im not noway near saying the camaro is crap but the guy bought that GT for other reasons than performance. I liked how he got beat too.

bombebomb
09-05-2006, 08:24 PM
Its about status and owning a rare car that is drooled on by most everyone. Lets say you own a $100k house and its in the "ghetto". Another person has a $1.5 million house in the hills and its 5 times as big. you could theoretically build that $100k house bigger and better with less money but its still in the "ghetto". Im not noway near saying the camaro is crap but the guy bought that GT for other reasons than performance. I liked how he got beat too.
I see your point, its like a lamborginni even if you whoop it, its still a lambo. But a Ford GT is a Ford lol

SS RRR
09-05-2006, 08:58 PM
:confused: what are you trying to say? ... in english please. did i give a slow time for 550rwhp? or are you one of those who think it wont hit the 10's with that hp? as far as a bery slow time for that hp, im saying worse case scenario (street tires, bad driver etc)

You didn't specify worse case scenario. An auto f-body pushing 550rwhp should easily be in the 10's even at a 3650 race weight.

razor02097
09-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Woah a chevy site and theres people defending ford... :confused:

It breaks down to

Stock GT Vs modded camaro
$151,000 car Vs $30,000 car
V8 SC Vs V8 TT
Ford Vs Chevy
WTFC Vs STFU :lol:

Its not like they waited all night for a GT to show up. They where just making a video to sell products.

Who said anything about camaros being "ghetto" whats "ghetto" about buying a nice SS camaro, making it fast and buying a house also instead of buying a $151k ford? People that argue that it wasn't a fair race need to do a little research... the GT pushes over 500 FWHP, is Double overhead cam and twin screw supercharged! The LS1 in there is a pushrod V8 with twin turbos probably exhaust and tuning.

SS RRR
09-05-2006, 10:19 PM
The LS1 in there is a pushrod V8 with twin turbos probably exhaust and tuning.
Where did it say anything about it being a twin turbo? "Probably exhaust and tuning"? Do you have any idea what it takes to build something like that?
Once again people just don't realize (unless they've learned the hard way themselves) when you build up a project like that SS it's going to take a lot of money to maintain the same power levels. Perhaps not 150K unless you're a complete moron, but it isn't an "exotic" car with a warranty either.

bombebomb
09-05-2006, 10:26 PM
Where did it say anything about it being a twin turbo? "Probably exhaust and tuning"? Do you have any idea what it takes to build something like that?
Once again people just don't realize (unless they've learned the hard way themselves) when you build up a project like that SS it's going to take a lot of money to maintain the same power levels. Perhaps not 150K unless you're a complete moron, but it isn't an "exotic" car with a warranty either. I want to know how to make 550 hp with 24lb injectors and a stock fuel pump.

SS RRR
09-05-2006, 10:55 PM
I want to know how to make 550 hp with 24lb injectors and a stock fuel pump.
A 250 shot wet kit. It'll make 550 for a minute.

JakeRobb
09-06-2006, 07:52 AM
I want to know how to make 550 hp with 24lb injectors and a stock fuel pump.
300 shot? ;)

93redBirdMan
09-06-2006, 02:21 PM
I didnt watch the video because Ive already seen in before. The guy lives in my town and ive hungout with him a few times. Cockiest guy youll ever meet, but hes got some dough, so he has a fast car. If you watch the vid (assuming its the same exact thing i watched) you can see the GT start to pull up on him on the freeway. Of course the Th400 tranny doesnt help the SS and its setup for 1/4 mile, not freeway 150+ driving. Anyways yea the SS is quick as hell, but its not unstopable. Just the other night he raced a bike in town here and got burned...

IdahoLT1
09-06-2006, 06:14 PM
Woah a chevy site and theres people defending ford... :confused:

It breaks down to

Stock GT Vs modded camaro
$151,000 car Vs $30,000 car
V8 SC Vs V8 TT
Ford Vs Chevy
WTFC Vs STFU :lol:

Its not like they waited all night for a GT to show up. They where just making a video to sell products.

Who said anything about camaros being "ghetto" whats "ghetto" about buying a nice SS camaro, making it fast and buying a house also instead of buying a $151k ford? People that argue that it wasn't a fair race need to do a little research... the GT pushes over 500 FWHP, is Double overhead cam and twin screw supercharged! The LS1 in there is a pushrod V8 with twin turbos probably exhaust and tuning.

I didnt say that the camaro was ghetto. The guy in the GT probably thought that camaro was crap cuz he wipes his a** with $100 bills. People that have crap loads of money spend it on Bentleys, Aston Martins, Ferraris, etc. because they have too much money. They buy cars with limited production #'s. They dont think whats the best bang for the buck. The only Camaros the would probably own are the old ZR1's or the Yenko's; Camaro's with 5 zeros after the price tag.

razor02097
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Where did it say anything about it being a twin turbo? "Probably exhaust and tuning"? Do you have any idea what it takes to build something like that?
Once again people just don't realize (unless they've learned the hard way themselves) when you build up a project like that SS it's going to take a lot of money to maintain the same power levels. Perhaps not 150K unless you're a complete moron, but it isn't an "exotic" car with a warranty either.
your right I don't know I guessed excuse me! I said probably exhaust cause it was a dang turbo and if your gonna put a turbo in you need an exhaust. Cheap would connect to the stock I pipe I don't know why you would but whatever. Then I said tuning cause of the turbo. I guessed it took $30,000 to build that SS camaro.

I want to know how to make 550 hp with 24lb injectors and a stock fuel pump.

did you need a complete breakdown? Down to the last dang connector and bolt he used?


WTF are you two pickin my post apart for? :confused: Im agreeing with you two :shrug:

SS RRR
09-09-2006, 03:34 AM
http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/09-04-06page_BullRun_2006_C6_Z06_vs_Ford_GT.htm

Too bad the Z06 owner couldn't drive worth a tinkers piss.

hsyr
09-11-2006, 01:13 PM
Whats the name of the song in this vid?

jimdrechsler
09-11-2006, 09:40 PM
Ill end the thread like this!

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BMWKillR
09-22-2006, 08:37 PM
That was absolutely awesome.

I love playing the underdog. I know people don't think of an SS as a sleeper but it is when you're in the $150k+ price range.

The GT owner was pretty sure of himself, offering to go for money before he knew anything about the car.

Try finding a Ford GT for its MSRP, which is last time I looked around 143K. The dealer around me has one w/5k miles on it for $220K. Also, Ford is stopping production on the GT next year so the price will only increase. :p

korrrray34
09-22-2006, 09:16 PM
Why don't those euro fools stick with their Beema's and S-classes? That guy was affraid of his own throttle, and clearly had no clue of it's handling capabilities. Cool to see soo many nice cars in one video though. We don't see to many exotics down here.


probably the same reason US fools dont stick with their 'maros and stangs...

robb4964
09-22-2006, 10:39 PM
who knows, but 550 rwhp should put the ss in the high 10's, low 11's. the gt with a pulley can hit 10.8 vs stock 11.7 so even if he knew how to drive i think he was outmatched


It should not run any slower then high 10's mwith 550 RWHP. enough suspension and good enough 60's and it may run high 9's all conditions being perfect.

cpformula
09-23-2006, 03:32 AM
Try finding a Ford GT for its MSRP, which is last time I looked around 143K. The dealer around me has one w/5k miles on it for $220K. Also, Ford is stopping production on the GT next year so the price will only increase. :p

Production ended today......

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37589

Antz97ZNJ
09-23-2006, 09:50 AM
That Gt hung in there pretty good

robb4964
09-25-2006, 08:22 AM
Uhhh......which one???? Both have lots of power!


I was referin to the SS.