t-tops and vert?

do you guys think the new camaro is going to be offered with t-tops? that should be almost a production car must have feature. as the owner of a 1989 camaro RS 305 i would say i probably wouldnt have bought my particular car if it didnt have the t-tops. i would have looked for another third gen with t-tops, i cant compare riding with my t-tops down on a nice sunny day or into a sunset is awesome. nothing can compare to that. the t-tops are unique to several models of cars every offered. it has always been something of the "coolness" of the camaro. a convertable would also be a nice option, but i would rank t-tops over convertable option in importance.

T-top are not going to happen, sorry, been talked about here times over the past year, do a search if you want to read up on the situation.

But we will see a vert

But we will see a vert

not first year.

As far as ttops, I think its really stupid not having something that something like 80% of 4th gen cars were ordered with. They need some type of middle ground between hardtop and convertible, at least IMO. (And I don't mean sunroof)

After following many posts on here for many months t-tops are very unlikely, which is why i will not even consider a 5thgen. I still hope the car is very successfull but i will not buy it without t-tops.

I had Ts in my 91 and I enjoyed them as well.........however, I can't see them on this car, especially, if the roof remains the same. And like they say, check the other posts for more, but, we'll have to wait and see what the General has in store when he brings our "Pal" back to us.

I don't mean to hijack, but what happened to the rumor of the T-top Mustang. I know the refresh has been pused back a year or so. I wonder if this had any validity...

I know it would be nice to see a targa top like the vette's have.

I would like th same thing...targa, targa, targa...

I'd also rather have a Targa top than the T-tops. I'm also not going to let the lack of T-tops deter me from buying a Camaro, they're just not that important to me. They're nice, but not a selling point for me. As for how they work with the roofline, the 80 something Monte Carlos had T-tops and that roofline didn't exactly lend itself well to T-tops...looked funny. I'd rather not see them on this car if it came out looking like this:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/2358000-2358999/2358582_19_full.jpg

Note: I am not saying the Camaro resembles the Monte Carlo in any way other than the square roofline...much different from the curved look of the 4g camaros.

Doesen't look like its going to happen.

Targa would be nice but I don't see how a Targa is more structurally sound, integrates better into the roof or any of the other things people are saying will prevent T-Tops from being on the car.

I don't mean to hijack, but what happened to the rumor of the T-top Mustang. I know the refresh has been pused back a year or so. I wonder if this had any validity...

Yeah, I was wondering this myself.

It is a little disappointing to know that we probably have seen the end of t-tops.

Two of my three have had t-tops and when I've looked into buying a 4th gen recently I've passed up every one that didn't have t-tops.

I've always thought that I was sure about buying a 5th gen, but I wonder now how much this would play a part in my decision. I've owned a few cars with sun/moon roofs and it's nowhere near the same... In part I guess I associate F-Bodies with the open air feel of the t-tops being off.

Maybe a convertible is in my future, I've just never been really big on them to be honest.

do you guys think the new camaro is going to be offered with t-tops? that should be almost a production car must have feature. as the owner of a 1989 camaro RS 305 i would say i probably wouldnt have bought my particular car if it didnt have the t-tops. i would have looked for another third gen with t-tops, i cant compare riding with my t-tops down on a nice sunny day or into a sunset is awesome. nothing can compare to that. the t-tops are unique to several models of cars every offered. it has always been something of the "coolness" of the camaro. a convertable would also be a nice option, but i would rank t-tops over convertable option in importance.

Yep been talked about.

I had a 97 w/ t-tops, and barely used them. My 2002 doesn't have them, and now I miss the option of having them. However, on a car with rear quarter windows like the 5th gen, it's not only visually questionable, it's a structural engineering nightmare.

Boils down to reduced roof strength (the 2nd to 4th gen had massive "b" pillars), la lack of ong term wind noise and rain resistence (lack of substantial "b" pillars mean more roof flex over time), and weight (to accomplish all of this, it's going to need alot of roof reinforcements).

Wasn't an issue on body-on-frame cars like the GM B-bodies, or F and Y bodies that had plenty of natural reinforcement at the b-pillars.

Hopefully, the new Camaro (like the Challenger) will have roll down rear windows. I think that would be just as nice.

I don't mean to hijack, but what happened to the rumor of the T-top Mustang. I know the refresh has been pused back a year or so. I wonder if this had any validity...

Yes, it had validity. Still does.

I expected it out for the 2007 model year, and was wrong.

T-tops died with the rest of the stereotype.

The car has evolved and moved on. Live with it.

T-tops died with the rest of the stereotype.

The car has evolved and moved on. Live with it.

Stereotype died with the introduction of the 4th gen, but its cool to see your living 15 years in the past ;)

I was really bummed when I realized that T-tops would not be an option on the new Camaro. My previous three F-bodies had T-tops. It occurred to me that the C6 has a removable targa top, and a transparent top option. Problem solved. Fortunately, I'll be getting an '07, since the '06's have been having some top delamination problems. It's a personal decision, not related to stereotypes or mullets. The weather in San Diego is mild year round. Don't want to miss out on it.

Hardtop Convertible - Problem Solved!!! ;)

Hardtop Convertible - Problem Solved!!! ;)


If they can do a hardtop, they can do t-tops......which is why some of the reasons being given just don't make sense. Screw the quarter windows and give me t-tops.....but I guess I'll have to live with a hardtop.

Hardtop Convertible - Problem Solved!!! ;)
I think that would be a very tempting vehicle.

I think that would be a very tempting vehicle.

Hardtop convertible would tempt me due to it keeping the roofline of the car.

A normal ragtop ruins the lines of a car when the top is up. The 4th Gens were just plain ugly with the top up, but as a coupe I love them.

3rd Gens were marginally more attractive with the top up. IMO that was because they had amore angular appearance and a convertible top always has an angular look in the back. Something that didn't work at all with the curvaceous 4th Gen.

Doubt that convertible hardtop seriously.

A lot of new convertibles look very good with the top up. The 6 series comes to mind.

If a retractable hardtop could be done without dramatically changing the roofline, I'd be willing to bet that a vast amount of consumers who would not otherwise have been interested in the camaro would come into the fold...

It shouldn't be too far out of the question if the production version has quarter panels anywhere near the width of the concept's...

If it can be done on a g6, I say it can be done on a camaro...

Convertible hardtop will ad cost and weight to every model. No one wants that.

Trying to make this car all things to all people is a mistake, and an obvious one at that. The new mustang is a very good example of enough comforts to be appealing with alienating the cars purpose.

Is there any other car in the country currently being produced with t-tops?

300SX was the most recent non GM car to have them, even though that wasn't a true T-Top it was a two piece Targa. I cant think of one unless it becomes available on the new Mustang.

T-Tops, like pop up headlights, are dead for the time being.

I think that would be a very tempting vehicle.
You are right about that, the only way I would consider a convertible.

I think it sucks though about the no T-tops though..... :rolleyes:

Is there any other car in the country currently being produced with t-tops?

Supposedly the new Mustang was going to get them, but at this point I don't believe there is.

300SX was the most recent non GM car to have them

Not trying to nitpick, but it is 300ZX not SX.

what is the stereotype associated with the camaro, i dont get it. my stepfather has a 84 camaro z28 and i have a 89 RS 305 and i dont even know what a mullet is. i own/drive the camaro simply becuase it is one of the most affordable sport cars on the planet. they handle great and they are just loads of fun to own and to drive. not to mention its an american legend and very easy to modify and make it "corvette like"

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

Redneck white guy in a wife beater, dirty jeans, unfashionable sunglasses, boots he has worn all his life and a coat because he wanted to take the tops off on his third gen that was at one point red, has a rebel flag on it somewhere and no muffler, not that if would have mattered had he left the tops on as they leak like hell anyway and the eight inch unpainted cowl hood isnt helping that airflow.

:p

If they can do a hardtop, they can do t-tops......

That is not true. Believe me, they want to offer T-tops as much as we them to, but there are TONS of reasons that they cannot which as mentioned before, has been discussed to death. Do a search and when you get some results, skip the bitching and focus on the facts that are presented as the exact reasons WHY they cannot offer T-tops at this point.

Here are a couple to get you started...

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437961&highlight=t-tops
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429849&highlight=t-tops

what is the stereotype associated with the camaro, i dont get it. my stepfather has a 84 camaro z28 and i have a 89 RS 305 and i dont even know what a mullet is. i own/drive the camaro simply becuase it is one of the most affordable sport cars on the planet. they handle great and they are just loads of fun to own and to drive. not to mention its an american legend and very easy to modify and make it "corvette like"

Don't worry. Other than online I've never heard this stereotype.

I truly believe it's a stereotype only perpetuated by some within our own community.

I'm glad someone asked about t-tops. I had an 89's with t-tops, and they rattled, but i loved them in l.a. Now my parents had a 96's with t-tops, and that car was tight as can be, even with them. I don't know if i'd buy them, but they have always been real popular. Maybe at least a sunroof? Lots of cars have them.
I'm real sick of the stereotypes. Mustang owners are certainly not rich classy types, and geez the Camaro has been a gorgeous car.

do you guys think the new camaro is going to be offered with t-tops? that should be almost a production car must have feature. as the owner of a 1989 camaro RS 305 i would say i probably wouldnt have bought my particular car if it didnt have the t-tops. i would have looked for another third gen with t-tops, i cant compare riding with my t-tops down on a nice sunny day or into a sunset is awesome. nothing can compare to that. the t-tops are unique to several models of cars every offered. it has always been something of the "coolness" of the camaro. a convertable would also be a nice option, but i would rank t-tops over convertable option in importance.


I'm sorry, but I think GM wants to get away form the T-top/mullet combination.


Besides T-tops are outdated in this day in age. That's 1980's technology get with the times. That's like asking for a cassette player in the car.

I disagree, there is nothing outdated about the concept of a removable roof thats not a convertible.

We may have passed the era of their greatest popularity, but all the manufacturers experimeting with sunroofs and what not makes me think people still want an open air option if its practical.

I disagree, there is nothing outdated about the concept of a removable roof thats not a convertible.

We may have passed the era of their greatest popularity, but all the manufacturers experimeting with sunroofs and what not makes me think people still want an open air option if its practical.


They want Targa Tops.... Not T-tops.

I'm sorry, but I think GM wants to get away form the T-top/mullet combination.


Besides T-tops are outdated in this day in age. That's 1980's technology get with the times. That's like asking for a cassette player in the car.

+1 on that.

I disagree, there is nothing outdated about the concept of a removable roof thats not a convertible.

We may have passed the era of their greatest popularity, but all the manufacturers experimeting with sunroofs and what not makes me think people still want an open air option if its practical.

I agree.

Ha -- the Google ads on the Mullets Galore site are selling "Camaro Ringtones". :lol:

The Camaro driver stereotype that seems more common in real life is the "Guido". Mullets seem more into Monte Carlos and the like.

Ha -- the Google ads on the Mullets Galore site are selling "Camaro Ringtones". :lol:

The Camaro driver stereotype that seems more common in real life is the "Guido". Mullets seem more into Monte Carlos and the like.

Ok, what's a 'Guido'?

Gold chains, "I Reek Of Cologne" (IROC), that sort of thing.

I'm a coupe guy usually but I think a T-top would look great. Not sure it'll ever be made for the 5th gen though.

A sunroof would be more than sufficient.:D Don't know that they'll do it... but there's something like having a section of the roof open to view the outside overhead and still have a fixed roof. Sorry though, I'm not a rag top kinda guy.

i couldnt see this car looking good with t-tops personaly. i think the vert looks mighty damn nice though

Good points Heatmaker

I seen a targa done to a pewter ls1 Z and have wanted one ever since. would there even be ample room to store a targa in the rear of the new camaros? and if there is how much space would it consume?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the first gen camaros did not have t-tops and the fifth gen design was some what taken from the first gen. So it makes sense that the new camaro wouldn't have t-tops. Personally, I love my fourth gen t-top set up and would never trade it for a convertable or sunroof. However, I think a targa top on the 5th gen would be almost as cool as a well groomed mullet, jj, the targa would be a lot cooler.

I'm all for the convertible....can't hardly wait. My 98 has T-tops, which I hope to always keep.
I had put a sunroof in my old 94, the car seemed weak. Had the hardtop in the 91 & 69 that I had along time ago.
I like the wind in my hair for sure :yes: