The 5th Gen Should Have....

The most reliable, advanced window motors ever created. They should spend half a million just in research and development of this component so that it never fails. You can completely obliterate the Camaro in a crash, but the window motors should still work. You know..... just to make up for the last 10 years. :D ;) .

The most reliable, advanced window motors ever created. They should spend half a million just in research and development of this component so that it never fails. You can completely obliterate the Camaro in a crash, but the window motors should still work. You know..... just to make up for the last 10 years. :D ;) .

Hell, Id settle for the same window motors, just make it so you DONT HAVE TO DRILL HOLES IN THE CAR TO GET IT OUT THE FIRST TIME.

:mad:

Should have.....been offically annouced already.

The most reliable, advanced window motors ever created. They should spend half a million just in research and development of this component so that it never fails. You can completely obliterate the Camaro in a crash, but the window motors should still work. You know..... just to make up for the last 10 years. :D ;) .

:bow: :bow: HERE HERE!!! :bow: :bow:

..... not only did my '97 go through 3 dtriver's side motors, the passenger side motor on my 2002 went out! Fortunately, I managed to get the window up, and am leaving it alone unrepaired for now. :mad:

Meanwhile, my 17 year old '89 T-bird is still on it's original pair..... just like the last 89 Bird I sold back in 2001!

:bow: :bow: HERE HERE!!! :bow: :bow:

..... not only did my '97 go through 3 dtriver's side motors, the passenger side motor on my 2002 went out! Fortunately, I managed to get the window up, and am leaving it alone unrepaired for now. :mad:

Meanwhile, my 17 year old '89 T-bird is still on it's original pair..... just like the last 89 Bird I sold back in 2001!

I had my '02 for 3 years. It happened EVERY year.

First year it was passenger and drivers sides at the same time. Second year it was just the passenger. I beleive it was just one or the other the 3rd year as well.

It told them after the 3rd time at the dealer that fixed it every time that I will not be under warranty anymore when it happens next year. And I don't believe I should have to pay for a problem that's happened every single year. They said they'd 'work something out'. But I traded it in before the 4th year came around anyway.

You know I agree completely. Pass side on my car and my friend's Trans Am both went and I had to replace them. GM definitely has to redeem themselves on this for the entire 4th gen lifespan and beyond. Its like they almost find the most obscure but quite noticeable part on the car to underengineer like say, the rear end. Had a nice bearing failure on that too. I just hope someone's using their head this time around on the car.

I've had to do them on every fbody I've owned. When I bought my SS 3 months ago, I changed them both after 2 weeks, not because they died, but because I knew they would, and didn't want to get stuck with them down.

98 Camaro

Paint that doesnt flake off which has been a GM problem for a while now

Headlights that dont shut themselves off and while driving home from work at night

NOT have auto headlights or at least let you defeat them.

NOT have the box that catches the top of your foot when your driving

door lock cylinders that dont seize up and then the AAA guy GM roadside asistance subcontracted for $75 take vice grips to my key and consider it fixed I gave up when the second set of wheel cylinders seized up. you cant lock the car now without crawling through the trunk.

Mirrors that the adjustment cables dont snap on while the car is sitting in the parkinglot at work.

Paint that doesnt flake off which has been a GM problem for a while now
I've owned 5 4ths gens and never seen this before

Headlights that dont shut themselves off and while driving home from work at night
never seen this before

NOT have auto headlights or at least let you defeat them.
believe that this is now required by law

NOT have the box that catches the top of your foot when your driving
How big are your feet? I've never had a problem hitting my foot on anything down there, and I'm an 11

Mirrors that the adjustment cables dont snap on while the car is sitting in the parkinglot at work.

Cables? Power mirrors man, this is 2006.

98 Camaro

Paint that doesnt flake off which has been a GM problem for a while now

Headlights that dont shut themselves off and while driving home from work at night

NOT have auto headlights or at least let you defeat them.

NOT have the box that catches the top of your foot when your driving

door lock cylinders that dont seize up and then the AAA guy GM roadside asistance subcontracted for $75 take vice grips to my key and consider it fixed I gave up when the second set of wheel cylinders seized up. you cant lock the car now without crawling through the trunk.

Mirrors that the adjustment cables dont snap on while the car is sitting in the parkinglot at work.you must have bad luck, as i have a '96 chevy economy car and i don't have any of those issues.

I'm a 14 - 15, depending on brand, and I never had a problem with the bump. Sometimes it's strange to me when I don't feel one there in another car.

After 2002, has any other GM vehicle had an annoying problem like window motors that any of you know of?

I've owned 5 4ths gens and never seen this before

Its on the hood and is comming off in flakes as I mentioned. Color is Mystic Green but I doubt that matters.


never seen this before

either youre lucky or Im unlucky. Was middle of winter, they shut themselves off and I pulled to where I thought the center of the road is while locking up the brakes. I was pissed and scared at the same time. I had to turn around and drive back to work with headlights off till I got pulled over. The Cop was laughing trying to explain that it wasnt acceptable to ride around at night with them off till I pointed out that the swtich was on and with the auto sensing headlights its not possible to turn them off at night. I played with the switch and got them back on which got replaced later. I still dont know what caused it. Hasnt happened before or since


believe that this is now required by law

what year did that law go into effect. My moms 05 Civic doesnt have automatic light sensing headlight nor daytime running lights.


How big are your feet? I've never had a problem hitting my foot on anything down there, and I'm an 11
Size 12 I hate turning my foot sideways btw and even then the tunnel for the trans stopped my foot from going all the way down. No taking my shoe off is not a solution.:D



Cables? Power mirrors man, this is 2006.

Whatever, just fix it. My 98 not a daily driver anymore

98 Camaro

Paint that doesnt flake off which has been a GM problem for a while now

Headlights that dont shut themselves off and while driving home from work at night

NOT have auto headlights or at least let you defeat them.

NOT have the box that catches the top of your foot when your driving

door lock cylinders that dont seize up and then the AAA guy GM roadside asistance subcontracted for $75 take vice grips to my key and consider it fixed I gave up when the second set of wheel cylinders seized up. you cant lock the car now without crawling through the trunk.

Mirrors that the adjustment cables dont snap on while the car is sitting in the parkinglot at work.


I've never had any of those problems... LOL Though I don't keep my cars over 3 or 4 years either.

But, I can say you CAN defeat the auto on headlights. It'll just defeat the DRL's also. It's behind the radio. You just unplug the thing and leave it out. Do a search online, that's what I did.

believe that this is now required by law


How big are your feet? I've never had a problem hitting my foot on anything down there, and I'm an 11

I doubt auto-on headlights are required by law. My '05 Aveo doesn't have them. Unless it's something that just became law. Though I'll still attempt to defeat them in whatever car I have. Along with the DRL's if they have them.

Never hit my foot on anything in my '02. Size 10....

Since I dont' have faith in them coming up with decent power window motors, I'd like to see them go the cartridge route. You know, the motors are like a nintendo cartridge. You just stick them into the door. When they go bad, bam, you just pull them out and stick a new one in. No muss. No fuss. :p

Should have.....been offically annouced already.

I'm agreeing with this one.

I came REALLY close to picking up a Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 today I'm so bored of the Aveo. But they were just a bit over what I wanted to pay (Aveo is upside down, so it wasn't their fault really.) so I didn't get it.

But knowing how much longer I have to drive this car would make it much easier to resign myself to driving it another couple years. Knowing there's some light at the end of the tunnel so to speak.

Meh, I guess they got the window motors down. What I would like is express up and down for both driver and passanger side. At least make it an option. I didnt think I would need it till you drive a few BMW's and MB's and you need to cool the cabin off.....at 120mph....when you need 2 hands on the wheel.
and put the switch back on the center console, liked them there.

Meh, I guess they got the window motors down. What I would like is express up and down for both driver and passanger side. At least make it an option. I didnt think I would need it till you drive a few BMW's and MB's and you need to cool the cabin off.....at 120mph....when you need 2 hands on the wheel.
and put the switch back on the center console, liked them there.


Are you talking about one touch up and down windows? I hate that **** so much. You go to crack the window when it's raining to mail something or in a drive through and you have to tap it again to bring it back up just right to get your arm out.

That's like that annoying window up down crap the new mustangs do when you open and shut the door.

still on the originals on mine but the passenger one is acting up now.

My 00 V6, my 83 Z28, my buddies 00 SS, and another friends WS-6 all had window motor problems. Luckily i traded my 4th gen in before it completely failed.

I think arm rest mounted window switches would be a great shout-out to the third gens. Cause my knee was constantly hitting the driver side window button on my fourth. Man this would freak me out when all of a sudden my passenger side window went down when both of my hands were on the wheel.....

Are you talking about one touch up and down windows? I hate that **** so much. You go to crack the window when it's raining to mail something or in a drive through and you have to tap it again to bring it back up just right to get your arm out.

That's like that annoying window up down crap the new mustangs do when you open and shut the door.

I've owned a few bimmers and audi's with this. Trust me, it's nice once you know how to control it. You touch lightly for regular operation, hold it for a second to 'one-touch' it up/down. It's so nice to control both fronts with a single click instead of holding it whilst trying to manuever a parking lot, etc.

Oh yeah, the auto up/down on large coupes was also on the bimmers I had. There is a good reason for it, those cars are sealed up tight, and if they didn't do that, you'd blow out the door seals by slamming the large coupe door shut. It's to relieve pressure. With todays better built cars, it's a necessity.

Or, you could just keep driving some POS from the 80/90's. :D

Just do like I did and order roll up windows. You'll never complain about power windows again the first time you have to reach 4 feet across the car to try and roll them up at 70mph.

Just do like I did and order roll up windows. You'll never complain about power windows again the first time you have to reach 4 feet across the car to try and roll them up at 70mph.

LOL, yea or pulling up to a stoplight and the hot chick in the car next to you on your passenger side wants to chat but by the time you get the window down its already green and you look like an idiot.

Well, it really wouldn't of been an issue for me back in the day because not to many girls want to chat with the guy in the smoke grey 1983 camaro Z28 with straight pipes....... they just roll up the window and pretend like they cant see me..:cry:

My 00 V6, my 83 Z28, my buddies 00 SS, and another friends WS-6 all had window motor problems. Luckily i traded my 4th gen in before it completely failed.

I think arm rest mounted window switches would be a great shout-out to the third gens. Cause my knee was constantly hitting the driver side window button on my fourth. Man this would freak me out when all of a sudden my passenger side window went down when both of my hands were on the wheel.....

That's too funny. I forget how many times I was like 'what the hell?!' when my passenger window would 'mysteriously' go down on it's own. LOL I figured it was just me that happened to.

I have the window controls on the center console. I like them there, but I sometimes hit the button with my elbow.

I have the window controls on the center console. I like them there, but I sometimes hit the button with my elbow.

I'd prefer them on the door. I tend to hold the steering wheel with my right hand and relax my left arm either on the window ledge or the armrest on the door. So, on the door is much better imo.

I'd prefer them on the door. I tend to hold the steering wheel with my right hand and relax my left arm either on the window ledge or the armrest on the door. So, on the door is much better imo.

Same here, especially when Im working on or washing it. I like to be able to put the window up or down easily standing outside. especially if the cars been baking in the parkinglot in the summer.