New dyno results....

7/1/2006
Just after a specific madz28.com (http://www.madz28.com) tune:
Dyno Run 1 (RO) Max power: 280.5 (+14.3) Max Torque: 300.4 (+3.3)
Dyno Run 2 (2nd gear pull) Max power: 277.1 (+22.3) Max Torque: 300.7 (+27.2)

7/29/2006
GM847 cam insatll with necessary madz28.com (http://www.madz28.com) tune:
Dyno Run 1 (RO) Max power: 305.6 (+25.1) Max Torque: 310.5 (+10.1)
Dyno Run 2 (2nd gear pull) Max power: 304.9 (+27.8) Max Torque: 312.1 (+11.4)

:thumb: :D

cool, now you just need the new track times:)

Agreed, but I don't think I'll be back to E-town until the fall. Which is fine, because it will be a much better comparison to last year fall runs. Can't wait!!! I definitely can feel more pull in the 4K to 6K rpm range.

Nice#'s but arnt they a little low?? whats the specs of the GM847, and what was ur A/f?

I kno its going through an Automatic, but tq #'s seem low to me :think:

Don't forget I'm still on the stock torque converter with 3:42 gears. Next year when I get a new TC to match up to the cam and change to 3.73 gears there will be more of an increase.

Crane cam 109841 specs (http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=109841&lvl=2&prt=5)

Don't forget I'm still on the stock torque converter with 3:42 gears. Next year when I get a new TC to match up to the cam and change to 3.73 gears there will be more of an increase.

Crane cam 109841 specs (http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=109841&lvl=2&prt=5)

yeah, the gears alone (from 2.73 to 3.73) dropped off .9 off my time. and im still on a stock tc.

your power is WAAAAAY low. somethings not right.

Nice increase Ron. :thumb:

If anyone's headed to Goodneos Tues. night, I think you should bring that monster so I can hear it in person. :)

Nice increase Ron. :thumb:

If anyone's headed to Goodneos Tues. night, I think you should bring that monster so I can hear it in person. :)

i might swing by to say hi. i was just there friday and wasnt happy about the food or service. i guess thats to be expected since they are closing they dont care. what are you going to do, complain!?!

power does not seem typical at all.

I dont think its all that bad to be honest with ya. He picked up 25 RWHP with a cam swap. Dont forget he dynoed the car on a 90+* day with humidity probably well over 80% this morning, getting worse as the day went on. I was up this morning and it was already 85* here by 7am. I was sucking down bottles of cold water while sweating my butt off on the lawn mower by 830 am... I dont even want to guess what the DA was.

Ron you are also on a stock TC, stock heads, thru 3.42's and big 17" radials... and you made that power on a 2nd gear pull... had it been in 3rd with the converter locked the numbers would easily be over 350.

My car dynoed 329 and ran 11.9's @ 113 all day long. Dynos arent everything but they are a nice way to guage improvements.

I dont think its all that bad to be honest with ya. He picked up 25 RWHP with a cam swap. Dont forget he dynoed the car on a 90+* day with humidity probably well over 80% this morning, getting worse as the day went on..... also on a stock TC, stock heads, thru 3.42's and big 17" radials... and you made that power on a 2nd gear pull... had it been in 3rd with the converter locked the numbers would easily be over 350.

My car dynoed 329 and ran 11.9's @ 113 all day long. Dynos arent everything but they are a nice way to guage improvements.

Mod-father :bow: ,

You hit the nail on the head with a sledge hammer.

The dyno numbers are only to give an idea of somewhat gains that I'm slowly building on the 97TA with mods. I get tired of the post of, "If I have mod x, mod y and mod z, how many equestrian-powers will I have?" This helps give some very basic idea. As Dyno Dale says, "It is what it is." There are still way too many variables in play to make any of my dyno gains a true scientific measure. I think a better judge of over all gains will be for me to run at E-town in the fall with relative same temps as last year to see the better times and trap speeds. But even those results will be suspect because of track prep and line traction.


Yes the weather at 9ish when the car was dyno'd was, like, yuck. However, to maximize my own personal full enjoyment of the strangling heat and humidity, I waited until noon to mow the lawn with a push mower for an hour an a half. I was hurting around 2pm. I'm sure glad that ice cold beer was discovered...

I'm sure that next year's upgraded TC and sliding in 3.73s for the present 3.42s will further increase the numbers more properly for the cam that was installed.

In the meantime, there's nothing like seeing the passenger's face and hearing the expletives (The Carol, Sis-in-law, nephew, neighbor) when they think the car is going at a good clip ("Wow, this is fast!") and I decide to push the pedal down... and they feel the definite increase mid-range surge (oh SH!T)... :lol:

I'm quite happy.... :D

Mod-father ,

:lol:

I'm quite happy....

thats the bottom line

Nice increase Ron. :thumb:

If anyone's headed to Goodneos Tues. night, I think you should bring that monster so I can hear it in person. :)

Tuesday (August 1st)
Mostly sunny. Very hot and humid with highs near 100. West winds to 10 mph. Heat index values of 110 possible.

Tuesday Night
Mostly clear. Lows in the mid to upper 70s.

Well I'll see if the heater still works in the 97 TA before I come down on Tuesday night... :lol:
I might do that, Ed. Although The Carol isn't too sure she wants to "enjoy" the ride down, though. "You're car is scary!" Bahahaha...

Although The Carol isn't too sure she wants to "enjoy" the ride down, though. "You're car is scary!" Bahahaha...


Thats how my car ended up the way it is. Liz didnt like to ride in it cause it scared her. I tried to convince here that with a roll cage it was just that much safer then everything else on the street. She said the cage wont protect her from me!!!! I then proceded to make a U turn with nothing but the gas pedal... That was the last time she got in my car.:cool:

I then proceded to make a U turn with nothing but the gas pedal... That was the last time she got in my car.:cool:

:lol::lol::bow:

Mod-father is my hero. :lol:

Doing a hole shot out of the NJ turnpike tollbooth to cross the Delaware Bridge and "threading the needle" between two vehicles to beat them to the bridge while laughing didn't gain me any points with The Carol...
Trust me, it wasn't as close as The Carol screamed it was... :lol:

Mod-father is my hero. :lol:



Thats too funny!

I remember you telling me that storry before and it remindedf me of the "U" turn incident. Its all down hill from now on.

Next thing you know you are trying to build a 10 sec car on the new baby funds;)

hehehehe... :lol:

Mod-father,

So I leave me Sister-in-laws residence, because my daughter is staying with them and her cousins for a few days and I had to drop a few things off, and my outlaw-brother-in-law and his daughter, my godchild, and her boyfrriend who drives am 80's SS Monte Carlo are standing outside admiring the "idle" of the 97 TA. So when I go to leave, I, naturally, have to leave a "signature" in the street.

Intially it seemed a bit sluggish on doing the burnout and then the car got all of the sudden crazy-skiddy-sideways but I was able to keep it all together and did a nice burnout for about three houses.

At the end of the block I realized I had done so from 2nd, instead of 1st. Bahahahahahhaha.

The cam is so cool, Mod-father!!!! :bow:

(it's the simplest of things that amuses me. :D )

HP sounds way way low. My neighbor put that exact same cam in his honda and made 600 RWP. Car runs low 8's with the cam only mod. Never been to the track but runs 8's.... ;)

Ron, nice mod and a nice pickup in HP. You know you only use those numbers as a base line. Keep on with the mods and the roll bar will be required. bahahhahahahh. :bow:

HP sounds way way low. My neighbor put that exact same cam in his honda and made 600 RWP. Car runs low 8's with the cam only mod. Never been to the track but runs 8's.... ;)


:lol: I hear ya... bahahahahaha. That was a good one. :lol:

I want to stop at 11.5. No faster...no rollcage. Otherwise I have to get a trailer.... :D

:lol: I hear ya... bahahahahaha. That was a good one. :lol:

I want to stop at 11.5. No faster...no rollcage. Otherwise I have to get a trailer.... :D

why would you need a trailer? still street legal right?

I want to stop at 11.5. No faster...no rollcage. Otherwise I have to get a trailer.... :D

To quote ya' buddy...bahahahahahaha :D

C'mon. You know you'll want to keep modding the T/A, so go ahead and keep going!

Sure, you may be able to resist the urge to further mod the car for now, but sooner or later, you'll give in. :D

'cause sometimes when busting through the sound barrier, the front fascia heat shield doesn't hold up and then other stuff breaks from the excessive heat and noise.

So if that happens to me, it will be nice to just winch the car onto the trailer for the long ride back into Bucks County from the NHRA Space Center in E-town.

:cool:



Sure, you may be able to resist the urge to further mod the car for now, but sooner or later, you'll give in. :D

SSsssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!! :lol:

Ha Ha Ha. Yah, your gonna stop. Just like the rest of us! I said NO MODS on this car!!! Ok, well maybe a CAI, OK, cat back, Yah, shorty headers, well maybe a nice small cam, Hum, heads will get me in the 12s. OK, I'm STOPPING...... Um, ya know, ported the heads would be nice, Hum, gears would be nice now too, And a street twin cluch. BUT THIS IS IT!! OK I'm done and this time a really really mean it!!! Well motor getting tired, quick rebuild, OK stroke it, OK, lets drop the compression and put a blower on, OK I'm stopping now! and I mean it too! Um, lets add the cage, Hum, Big front mounted intercooler, I can run more boost. OK I'm done and this time a really really mean it!!!

Hum, bigger blower, Yah, I'll stop when I get to 10.0. No really I'm gonna stop,,,,

There is no rehab for a speed addiction! Aint it cool?????

Oh way to ruin all of my support group therapy...

"Hi, my name is ron and I'm a speed-aholic..."

LMAO :lol:


Yeah, it's cool. But I'm still not letting go of my AC or CD player for weight gains!!! Bahahahahhaha

I have only 1 thing to say

2ND GEAR DYNO PULL!!!!!!

and you still put down over 300 rwhp:bow: :bow: :alert:

Oh way to ruin all of my support group therapy...

"Hi, my name is ron and I'm a speed-aholic..."



Don't you mean "I'm a clean-aholic"! Speed just keeps the dirt off! :D

ron, i wrote to israel. they are very interested in hiring you to apply the same amount of zaino to their tanks as you do to your car. in theory, a rpg round should slip off the zaino rendering it useless. :p

roflmao....

Wow, wouldn't that be The Job for me.

I would need to setup some drive-thru spray dispensers, couple of rotating buff pads... yeah, I could automate this... bahahahaha