Building an LT1 for boost?

KrisH
07-14-2006, 05:04 PM
Hey foks, I recently bought a 94 Z28 from a good friend and member here, Ryan (Ryan's LT1) and love the car. Great power, lots of torque, and a great overall seat of the pants feel to it, but being the horsepower-hungry SOB that I am, I'm already considering adding a forced induction setup to my car.

I've got a ProCharger D-1SC non-intercooled, blow-through setup on my Chevelle and a ProCharger P-1SC intercooled and nitrous-chilled setup on my '05 Mustang, so I've got a fair bit of prior experience with these blowers. I love them and swear by them, even though they're noisy as hell (which I actually have come to love.) So naturally I'm thinking about going with ATI for my Camaro too.

Here's my hangup. The motor runs strong, doesn't smoke and never complains when I beat on it, but it does have 108K on the clock, so I have some concern over doing anything too extreme to it.

I don't see myself putting more than 4-6psi into this motor anyway, but I have been throwing around the idea of slowly building up an LT1 shortblock with intent to boost up to 14-20psi. I've got forged internals in my Chevelle and love the peace of mind they give me whenever I get the urge to stand on the throttle, so I want to do something similar for the Camaro. I'd like to see a minimum of 500rwhp out of the built motor.

So, can a factory LT1 with just over 100K miles handle a low-boost, intercooled ProCharger? How prone are these motors to blowing up under pressure?

Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to build a boosted LT1? Is the Lloyd Elliot head/cam package still an option in this case, if combined with dished pistons? How much dough does it take to put together an LT1 normally? I hear it's actually pretty budget friendly.

Any and all opinions and info are much appreciated.

Kris Horton

LT1-TA
07-14-2006, 05:49 PM
The lt1 is no different than any other smallblcok just it has reverse flow cooling. The stock LT1 hates boost, but a lot of poeple get away with boosting it 6-8 psi for a long time and others the motor gives up.

As for build up of one, it is no different tha a smallblock. If you want a budget setup i would do a full forged Eagle rotating assembly. People have been using these up to 1000 hp and having good luck. And they are very affordable.

You can use a LE package but just make sure not to shave down the heads (upping compression) and get a blower type of cam. for what kidna of boost levels you are pushing a 8.7/1 compression would be fine. But what compression you go with is almost a preferance. A lot of people say not to go below 9/1. Im going with 8.5/1.

KrisH
07-14-2006, 06:48 PM
Excellent info, thanks! We went with 8.5:1 on the Chevelle and run 91 octane, which is ideal for me.

I don't think I'll be putting a blower on the current motor afterall. I'm just going to appreciate that it's a solid daily driver right now and not risk damaging it.

Where can I get a good shortbock? I did a search for an LT1 shortblock and found a 383 shortblock with forged rods, pistons, and crank for $3500, but I'd like to find something cheaper.

Kris

95 Z/28 LT1
07-14-2006, 07:15 PM
Where can I get a good shortbock? I did a search for an LT1 shortblock and found a 383 shortblock with forged rods, pistons, and crank for $3500, but I'd like to find something cheaper.

Kris


Try Victory Racing Engines, they are a sponsor here and do really good work. Give Nick a call and see what he can do for you.

KrisH
07-14-2006, 07:23 PM
Thanks, I will check them out! Also, when shopping for a shortblock, is there anything to consider because I live in CA and we have smog laws? Or will any shortblock work?

95 Z/28 LT1
07-14-2006, 07:27 PM
When you're in CA all bets are off. I'm not very familiar with all the laws there, but from what I understand you are going to have to make it look stock as possible and all the parts you bolt on to it will have to have a C.A.R.B. number for them to pass.

You may be able to go with a 383 shortblock or similar overborestroke, but the trick will be making it pass the sniffer. Wild cams and similar stuff I'm pretty sure aren't going to fly there.

Eric@Victory Racing
07-14-2006, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the recommendation 95 Z/28 LT1

KrisH
We have a variety of short block packages to choose from, and welcome the opportunity to speak with you more indepth about your project.

77LT1
07-14-2006, 09:35 PM
Sorry to change the subject, but Kris, you do some excellent work on the renderings of cars. I look at the pics and I swear you could open the door and climb in and go for a drive. That Chevelle of yours is absolutley beautiful.

Bryan

KrisH
07-14-2006, 10:35 PM
Haha, thanks Bryan, I try my best to make my artwork fool people into thinking the car already exists.

Eric,

I will have to give you guys a call. I'm VERY interested in doing this. I won't be dropping any money for a few months still, but I want to be well-informed and decided when I finally do. It looks like I may very well go with you guys for the shortblock. I will have to give you a call!

Thanks for the responses!

Kris

Eric@Victory Racing
07-14-2006, 10:39 PM
Kris,
Looking forward to hearing from ya. If you have any questions don't hestitate to drop us a pm or email.

RealQuick
07-17-2006, 02:29 PM
FYI, if ya want below 9.3:1 the you will have to step up to either TFS or AFr heads with the bigger cc chambers. Stock heads only allow for ~56cc combustion chambers. I went with 64cc AFR210 heads + -31cc pistons = ~8.5:1 with correct gaskets.

blown383
07-17-2006, 05:59 PM
I'm in SoCal and had a local guy build me a KILLER 383 LT1 with all the bells and whistles for a VERY competitve price. He knows his stuff and currently builds motors for the TV show Overhaulin'. I hope to have some dyno numbers by the end of summer. If you're interested let me know.

-B

joe-96z1le
07-17-2006, 06:28 PM
For an LT1, stock chamber size is about 54cc but you can open the chambers up quite a bit more than 56cc.

blown383
07-17-2006, 07:12 PM
I would also suggest a local machine shop to handle your motor because there will be about a dozen or so mishaps that will set back your rebuild...so its kind of important to be able to talk to someone in person and/or drop off parts locally. My rebuild was set back almost 2 months due to poor quality control issues at large well known manufactures that have been around for years!

-B

RealQuick
07-17-2006, 10:45 PM
For an LT1, stock chamber size is about 54cc but you can open the chambers up quite a bit more than 56cc.

The reputable vendors I have emailed on this site dont do much more than 56cc on stock castings... perhaps others will try and get more.