Sits alittle high. Waddya think?

Z284ever
06-14-2006, 02:30 AM
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/Blade75769/IMG_0876.jpg

MarcR94v6
06-14-2006, 02:45 AM
Not that much of a huge problem for me. The critics said that 4th gens sat too low and was too hard to see over the hood, this appears to fix that. Although it would be cool to see a lowered, more swept 4th gen stance on this car.

QATransAm
06-14-2006, 02:51 AM
More speedbump/driveway 'friendly'.


and i know the 4th gen is closer...but it kinda makes the concept look small.
Also, aside from the LS1 headlights, which i've never really liked..the 4th's styling isn't as trumped by the concept as i thought it would be.

5thgen69camaro
06-14-2006, 04:29 AM
I think the 4th Gen sat way too low, however its all in those Rims. I noticed it in the videos. those 21 and 22 I think cause it to sit so high. You see it in the old muscle cars when they put the dubs on them. Think 17's to 18's would look good? Maybe 19? thats a lot of bling

90 Z28SS
06-14-2006, 05:42 AM
I think it wouldnt look so high without those huge 21/22" wheels . the car looks sweet sitting with other Camaro's , now that all the Power Tour pics are starting to come out .

97z28/m6
06-14-2006, 06:53 AM
is that 4th gen lowered or stock ride height?


i'd like to see it next to a 'stang to see if it looks high.

Mike2001SS
06-14-2006, 06:56 AM
My wife liked the way it sit and that she could see the hood and see out good. Thats one thing she hated about our 4th gens.

jhmace
06-14-2006, 10:19 AM
It's just those big goofy wheels, they don't even look like they belong on there.

Sometimes bigger isn't better.

Z/28lover
06-14-2006, 11:52 AM
It's just those big goofy wheels, they don't even look like they belong on there.

Sometimes bigger isn't better.
There not that big when compared to the car though.

Although, i think either 18/19 or 19's allthe way around would look much cleaner than the 21/22 combo that is on it now.

guionM
06-14-2006, 11:59 AM
For just a "concept" car, GM sure is getting alot of mileage out of thing! :lol:

I agree with everyone else, the wheels look a little 'overkill' in this picture, and the 4th gen sits unusually low to begin with.

CamaroFan1718
06-14-2006, 12:04 PM
I think maybe its just that 4th gen has been lowered. Makes the concept look like a 4x4.

96_Camaro_B4C
06-14-2006, 12:07 PM
Which is one reason why 22s are too big for a production car.

The new Escalade has 22s, and they look big on that truck.

I think 18-19 is a good size, certainly no bigger than 20" wheels.

:)

eagleknight97
06-14-2006, 01:07 PM
The angle of that picture doesnt help AT ALL. It skews everything, making the 4th gen look bigger and lower, and the 5th gen look smaller and higher.

Privateer454
06-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Those wheels are WAY too big and contribute to the high ride height. I'm hoping that they are like most concept wheels and are two sizes larger than production. It reminds me of the ghetto hoopty 80's Monte Carlos I see around town with 22's or larger that make the car look like a damn 4x4.

I agree with the post above, the 4th gen more than holds it own looks wise with the 5th gen. There is more overall Camaro heritage in the 4th gen than the 5th.

91Z28350
06-14-2006, 01:46 PM
Those wheels are WAY too big and contribute to the high ride height. I'm hoping that they are like most concept wheels and are two sizes larger than production. It reminds me of the ghetto hoopty 80's Monte Carlos I see around town with 22's or larger that make the car look like a damn 4x4.

I agree with the post above, the 4th gen more than holds it own looks wise with the 5th gen. There is more overall Camaro heritage in the 4th gen than the 5th.

WOW! Just wow. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that one just blows me away.

94Z28/03mach1
06-14-2006, 01:47 PM
ride height aside,thats the first "on the street" photo I've seen of the 5th gen.I must say its refreshing next to the older car.I would definately buy one.(bigger mirrors fbodfather).Its a really good looking car and seems to remove all the things I've hated about my past 4th gens.Too bad it won't come till '08.

MarcR94v6
06-14-2006, 03:42 PM
WOW! Just wow. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that one just blows me away.
I agree. For starters, let's be honest here....the 4th gen looks least "like" a camaro than the rest of the gens. It is unique, so that is good, but the fact that it looks almost nothing like the other generations shows very little heritage as far as styling.

Z/28lover
06-14-2006, 04:39 PM
ride height aside,thats the first "on the street" photo I've seen of the 5th gen.I must say its refreshing next to the older car.I would definately buy one.(bigger mirrors fbodfather).Its a really good looking car and seems to remove all the things I've hated about my past 4th gens.Too bad it won't come till '08.
2 years will fly by like nothing, next thing you know, youll be flying by like nothing in your new Camaro!

YARDofSTUF
06-14-2006, 04:44 PM
I would prefer 18 wheels over 19, tires for 19" wheels are kinda pricey.

eagleknight97
06-14-2006, 05:29 PM
WOW! Just wow. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that one just blows me away.
Agreed. While I love my 4th gen, it doesnt have much related to a 1st or 2nd gen styline wise. It resembles a 3rd gen slightly. I think the 5th gen looks alot more like a traditional Camaro than the 4th gen, but thats mainly because it is styled after a 1st gen with lots of other influence in there.

97z28/m6
06-14-2006, 07:20 PM
Agreed. While I love my 4th gen, it doesnt have much related to a 1st or 2nd gen styline wise. It resembles a 3rd gen slightly. I think the 5th gen looks alot more like a traditional Camaro than the 4th gen, but thats mainly because it is styled after a 1st gen with lots of other influence in there.
the "grill" on the 98-02 mimik(sp) the 70-73. the rest has been a camaro trademark since 1982 (20 years!).so the styling goes over 3 gens. the 5th gen takes styling ques only from the 67-69 model and thats only 3 years.

5thgen69camaro
06-14-2006, 07:33 PM
Agreed. While I love my 4th gen, it doesnt have much related to a 1st or 2nd gen styline wise. It resembles a 3rd gen slightly. I think the 5th gen looks alot more like a traditional Camaro than the 4th gen, but thats mainly because it is styled after a 1st gen with lots of other influence in there.

Thats weird because there isnt much on the 4th gen Camaro that doesnt look like it was pulled from the 2nd or 3rd gen to me... Infact Im hard pressed to think of one major feature that didnt pull from them aside from maybe the spoiler

Rob V
06-14-2006, 07:39 PM
I agree with the post above, the 4th gen more than holds it own looks wise with the 5th gen. There is more overall Camaro heritage in the 4th gen than the 5th.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/aegis/Camaros.jpg

I'd have to say it looks like a combination of many, many traits from all 4 previous generations. (Can't remember who made this background but thank you!)

EllwynX
06-14-2006, 07:43 PM
the "grill" on the 98-02 mimik(sp) the 70-73. the rest has been a camaro trademark since 1982 (20 years!).so the styling goes over 3 gens. the 5th gen takes styling ques only from the 67-69 model and thats only 3 years.

I always thought the grill on the 98+ were reminiscent of the early 2nd Gen.

The 93-97 were an obvious transition from the 82-92 front end (smaller grill and dual headlights). The 98+ were just a further morphing of the 93-97. So, imo, the 4th Gens have as much in relation to the other Camaro's as any other Generation.

The styling transitions from the 1st to the 2nd and 2nd to 3rd were no less drastic (and imo were more drastic in some ways) than the transition from 3rd to 4th. So I really don't understand those that say the 4th Gen was the least 'Camarolike'....

The change from 3rd to 4th, to me, had the most obvious similarities in front end styling. All the others were immensely different.

I know the 5th technically takes it's cues from the 1st Gen, but it's angular lines are VERY similar to the 3rd Gen whether it was intentional or not. Which is a good thing imo. As much as I like the 4th Gen's, the 3rd was the most 'muscular' and 'beefy' looking Generation (in it's last years anyway).

PS- It's 'mimic'. ;)

97z28/m6
06-14-2006, 08:07 PM
thanks.:p

i don't see the angular lines as a third gen trait but a current cadillac styling trait. all i see in it is 1st gen as far as camaro traits go.

Mustang Killer57
06-14-2006, 08:25 PM
I think the 4th gen looks little like the rest because its so refined. Look at it, looks like a fighter jet interpretation, not a muscle car. Dont get me wrong, it was a good look in the 90's, but GM was late in their styling. Should have had that refresh introduced around 95-96 and not 98-02.
Each generation got sleaker with less muscle/more sport car, with the 4th being all sports car...but a little to late with its refresh and got boring. The 5th gen brings back that muscle car look, (just looks mean sitting still) that the camaro lost in the 4th gen.

Privateer454
06-15-2006, 08:00 AM
the "grill" on the 98-02 mimik(sp) the 70-73. the rest has been a camaro trademark since 1982 (20 years!).so the styling goes over 3 gens. the 5th gen takes styling ques only from the 67-69 model and thats only 3 years.

Exactly. I've posted before all the styling elements that have been around the longest that the 5th gen ignores (tri-colored taillights, t-tops, tri-colored badge, etc...)

And for any of you that think there is any other gen in the 5th other than the 1st, think again. Twice I posted quotes from Ed Welburn stating that it's first gen only...


ON GOING BEYOND THE FIRST GENERATION VEHICLE AND STRETCHING TO GET TO THE CAMARO CONCEPT.
“From the very beginning of the project, I said to the guys—and they got tired of hearing it from me—‘The car has got to get its inspiration from that first-gen Camaro, not the second gen or the third, but the first, but it has to be a very new vehicle. We don’t want go the route the others have; we have to move this vehicle further.’ There were versions during the development that were close to the first-generation car—wonderful-looking designs, but I wanted more reach. I wanted it to have a newer form vocabulary, the proportions needed to be a bit fresher, there needed to be a bit more gesture in the design.”

See whole article here. Funny no one replied to that post, hum.....
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438999&highlight=welburn

Second time was here (post 68):
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438999&highlight=welburn

Now please understand this, I am very happy to have the Camaro come back no matter what gen it is based on but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna say it couldn't be better.

91_z28_4me
06-15-2006, 08:49 AM
And for any of you that think there is any other gen in the 5th other than the 1st, think again. Twice I posted quotes from Ed Welburn stating that it's first gen only...
The 3rd gen borrowed pretty heavily from the 1st gen for its proportions so I can see the 3rd gen in it. Also the squared off edges and general finishing of both the 5th and the 3rd are quite similar. Personally I see a lot of 3rd gen in the car, my favorite year.

Perhaps that is what it is: You see reflections and the traits of your favorite gen in the car. That is pretty cool and means the designers did their job PERFECTLY!

nowandthen
06-15-2006, 11:14 AM
Perhaps that is what it is: You see reflections and the traits of your favorite gen in the car. That is pretty cool and means the designers did their job PERFECTLY!

I agree. I see second gen 74-77 in the side profile of the nose. I had a 77 Z-28, had to add my own muscle in those days. ;)

Purple 92 SS
06-15-2006, 01:35 PM
Perhaps that is what it is: You see reflections and the traits of your favorite gen in the car. That is pretty cool and means the designers did their job PERFECTLY!


thats probably the best statement ive read on here all day long.

if it invokes your favorite gen / camaro.. then they did it right..

-steve

97z28/m6
06-15-2006, 05:16 PM
The 3rd gen borrowed pretty heavily from the 1st gen for its proportions.where?:confused: oohh i know the hatch? or the massive front over hang?

91_z28_4me
06-15-2006, 11:30 PM
where?:confused: oohh i know the hatch? or the massive front over hang?
Wheel well opening shape, bulge above the rear fenders, squared tail lights, RS package available, Return of the vert and 350, wheel base and width are close.

Z28Vert19
11-12-2006, 05:46 PM
I agree. For starters, let's be honest here....the 4th gen looks least "like" a camaro than the rest of the gens. It is unique, so that is good, but the fact that it looks almost nothing like the other generations shows very little heritage as far as styling.

The Camaro's evolved through out the generations correct?? The 2nd Gen had a couple of styling cues to the 1st. 3rd to 2nd. LT1 4th to 3rd. LS1 to LT1. So to say the 4th gen doesnt look like a Camaro is untrue in my opinion.

Dave89IROC
11-12-2006, 06:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/aegis/Camaros.jpg

I'd have to say it looks like a combination of many, many traits from all 4 previous generations. (Can't remember who made this background but thank you!)

you have a high res copy of this?

if yes, can I get a copy? PLEASE?????

nate_88
11-15-2006, 09:38 PM
I personally think that the ride height is fine; you don't want it to low where the lower valance\ bumper will scrape the ground. I can speak from experience since I drive a lowered truck. If you think it sits a little high you can always buy a lowering kit.

EllwynX
11-16-2006, 07:01 PM
I personally think that the ride height is fine; you don't want it to low where the lower valance\ bumper will scrape the ground. I can speak from experience since I drive a lowered truck. If you think it sits a little high you can always buy a lowering kit.

I don't mind it sitting a tiny bit high, though I do prefer to sit down lower.

It sitting a little high just assures that GFX won't scrape the ground like they did on my '91. (They never scraped on the '02 cause Chevy got smart and made it that split valance in the front.)

SCNGENNFTHGEN
01-01-2007, 11:31 AM
IMO it sits perfect. I still love the shot of the 5th gen, next to the 4th gen, what an awesome pic! Oh, and the other one with all the generations of Camaro is really nice too. I can see alot more 3rd gen in it, now that I see them together. The fender lips (or whatever you want to call em') are almost identical to 3rd gens, as well as the upper front fender area IMO. I see much more than just the obvious 1st gen styling, that's for sure, but you must look closely, or you'll miss it. To me the car IS very worthy of the name CAMARO and fits well with the others. JMO.

90rocz
01-02-2007, 01:42 AM
I wonder how much lift it'll make over a buck?
I'll take some 18's, or 18 front & 19's rear, and lower the center of gravity just a tad..

bombebomb
01-02-2007, 06:36 PM
Im not exactly sure how high the ride height is, but if its like the 4th gens, ill continue to step up to get out of my car hehe.

90rocz
01-06-2007, 01:42 AM
Im not exactly sure how high the ride height is, but if its like the 4th gens, ill continue to step up to get out of my car hehe.At 6'2", me too bro..but shorter people might not..

terps
01-11-2007, 07:08 PM
I never even care how high the car sits stock, it's never anything some aftermarket suspension setup can't cure ;)

azfan
01-13-2007, 03:21 PM
it's hard to tell because i havn't seen one in person yet, but the picture showed what i don't care for as much. i like the sloping sports car look of the 3rd-4th gens. it's just the era i grew up in. still i like it.

camarolvr69
02-04-2007, 04:27 PM
im gonna like having an actual trunk instead of a friggin hatch. Maybe it will have more room since there wont be t-tops...

JCS30TH
02-07-2007, 12:12 PM
that is becuase of those oversized rims. It will be fine with 17's

NikkiLynn
02-11-2007, 11:05 PM
I agree the wheels are too big, but it also does sit too high. I wouldn't complain if it was given to me though. I love it ;)