Pics of my 3" True Duals OVER THE AXLE ON BOTH SIDES

Everyone else in my town said it couldn't be done. I disagreed and designed a setup that would work and Keith from Extreme Exhaust in Winnipeg and made it a reality.

http://members.shaw.ca/serial_thriller/Duals004.jpg

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http://members.shaw.ca/serial_thriller/Duals001.jpg

A big thanx to Keith from Extreme Exhaust who was up till 1am last night fabricating the exhaust.

In case you're wondering, its a 93 Camaro with billet custom made centre exit tips and SLP SS bumper. All mandrel bent.

EDIT: VIDEOS ADDED.

I need a better microphone for the video camera. It sounds a bit distorted.

http://members.shaw.ca/velvet_hammer/Idle.wmv

http://members.shaw.ca/tallc00l1/Drive.wmv

Looks good Grip. How does it sound? Give us a sound clip. :D

honestly - that's the nicest, cleanest setup I have ever seen - congrats

**** that looks good!

thank you for the pictures! i'm doing this now lol. I was thinking I'm going to stick with my dual/dual, but now... ooooooh thats sexy!

That does look good.

What tires you have on there?

any problems with anything hitting anywhere yet?

Nothing rubs. I can clear fair size speed bumps. I'm running Nitto DRs. I had to relocate the fuel and brake lines and insulate them along with grinding down the panhard bar mount.

And the sound...like a 60s muscle car.

I'll have a sound clip up in a few weeks after the MSD opti comes in.

wow that looks bada** mine looks decent but that guy knows his ****

Very nice setup.

Thats a great looking set up...I've been wanting to do that for a while, but I've got the cross brace mounted Spohn TA...It looks like it'd be a real pain to get the duals to fit with my TA...

--Alan

yuo gotta get that sound clip asap..looks good that similier to my setup cme ..only diffrence is im not running mufflers

hey i live in winnipeg, just wondering do you go down to alot the sunday night cruises?

hey i live in winnipeg, just wondering do you go down to alot the sunday night cruises?

Yeah I used to hang out at Part Source on Portage. Now days a lot of people hang out around Manitou Trucking on Route 90 like last Sunday.

Looks real good Grip, where are these guys located?

looks mean man, we def. need a sound clip.

Looks real good Grip, where are these guys located?

McPhillips in the Perkins parking lot.

Sweet, if someone wanted to make some serious jack they need to package a system like this and sell it.

Those tips have some real heft!

The shocks look somewhat familiar... :D

That looks kickass. :bow:

Keith did a really nice job. :thumb:

Those tips have some real heft!

The shocks look somewhat familiar... :D

They're treating me well. :D

Wow...that looks awesome. I'm still deciding whether I want to try and do my true duals like that or put both pipes over the axel on the right side. Very clean looking!

Thats a clean set up there. Looks like alot of work but well worth it.

That's interesting, never heard of anyone going there, you plan on going this sunday (tommorow)

You have a PM.

PLease post some sound clips :eek: love the set up

Sweet, if someone wanted to make some serious jack they need to package a system like this and sell it.

Seriously. I would be all over it.

That is really pretty trick. :cool:

Wonder if someone around my neck-of -the-woods could do this.

Gripenfelter - any clearance issues with the road or bottom of the car at all? I've got a 12-bolt so that may be an issue.

very nice setup.

i love that oil pan. what brand is it? was it a pain to install?

looks like a really nice setup, wonder if that'll work on a thirdgen as well. any issues with the panhard bar contacting the drivers side at all?

do the mufflers really Bring down the SOUND level??? Or tie up any HP?!?!?!

Here's another way...

http://picsorban.com/upload/td.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/dannycam/Duals008revised.jpg

what it is???

what it is???

Parking brake cable.

it looked different in that pic...lol!

Very nice!

my magnaflow 4x9" straight thru mufflers (same as Grips i think) made a HUGE difference in sound.

with the straight pipes it was absolutely ear-bleeding loud, particularly on the highway and full throttle.

the mufflers actually toned it down TOO much for what i was wanting. but it allows me to really use the throttle alot more around town.

and mine are still dumped at the axle.

in that last pic on the lift...of the duals side by side....i see it's got the upper panhard bar kit, does it also have a panhard relocation bracket? kindda looks like it, although i am not sure what the brackets for the upper phb are like.

edit...
never mind...just looked up the upper phb on BMRs site....thats jsut part of the kit

Dang. I want TD's....

I noticed you kinda hacked the upper PHB... Would the BMR PHB relo kit work w/ that?

my magnaflow 4x9" straight thru mufflers (same as Grips i think) made a HUGE difference in sound.

with the straight pipes it was absolutely ear-bleeding loud, particularly on the highway and full throttle.

the mufflers actually toned it down TOO much for what i was wanting. but it allows me to really use the throttle alot more around town.

and mine are still dumped at the axle.

How loud is yours inside at 60-75 mph compared to a catback?

it's been a whild since i had the catback muffler on...but i'd say only slightly louder than my old magnaflow catback.

it really is quiet and refined

idle it is louder just due to the lope of the cam...but cruising it's nice and smooth

Looks great, very clean. I ran both mine over the passengerside. Not many people manage to get 3" TDs out the back. Yours is a much cleaner install than mine. I had to clearance my trunk pan to fit Aerochamber mufflers.

Do you worrry about taking that much meat out of the panhard brace? Taking those bent edges out removed a lot of stregth.

looks very good! Impressive work, especially with double diamond SFCs on there. Now lets see you fit cats on there! hahahaha

finally uploaded the vids to someplace accessable....lets see if it links

straight pipes (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/keezdiver/camaro/?action=view&current=MOV00679.flv)

magnaflows (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/keezdiver/camaro/?action=view&current=MOV00680.flv)

both were taken minutes apart, from identical camera location.

to give you and idea of how quiet the mufflers are, listen closely...you can hear my footsteps and the "ding ding" of the ignition alarm with the door open.

now from the looks of it, these are the same mufflers as Grip. on a cammed LS1 (400rwhp) where his is a stroked LT1.

but it gives you an idea of how much the mufflers toned the car down

^ OMG.... That lopey idle is .....=drule!.....I LOVE THAT.... Me wanty cam!

Anyway...THe Magnaflows are friggin QUIET!

in person they are not REAL quiet...it's just that the comparison from the ear splitting sound of the straight pipes is pretty impressive.

i think if the pipes were run out the back it would be even nicer riding in the car, although right now it really only takes a SMALL increase in voice to chat over the drone. and the drone is most likely totatlly due to the reverberation of the exhaust under the car.

those revs were only about 1500-2000rpm

:cool: it makes for a lot of fun around town, not worrying about cops so much. although it still SCREAMs at full throttle.

I'll have a sound clip and video up in a couple of days. :)

I'll have a sound clip and video up in a couple of days. :)


RIGHT ON!!!

This is a really great thread. I'm completely sick of having bulletts on my TD setup. Magnaflow is what I planned on getting anyway but it looks like the 4x9" Magnaflows are a good mix of tone without silencing the car moreso than desired. Cant wait to get those and run it over the axle like Grip. I'm anxious for the sound clips of his setup.

teke184: Your car sounds like my idealization of the setup. Smooth, refined with a good bite to it still. Very nice.

I remember that Roger Grotyhahn used to make true duals that fit under the panhard rod. That setup looks sweet. I can't wait for the sound clips. :D

Just spoke (over the phone) to three custom exhaust shops. The first two shops wanted to argue with me about how true duals couldn't be done. NOT possible. Some custom exhaust shop! The third seemed more open to looking at my car and discussing it. This just makes me want to do it more now. :D

take pictures off this thread...pretty tough to argue with proof

Agreed. One guy wanted to know if I've ever been "under the car". I'm the original owner, by the way. Other one said there's no ground clearance for 3in. pipes. I told him I thought 3" pipes would provide more clearance than the 4" Y pipe I'm using. Still insisted it couldn't work since the factory didn't do it. I said that's why its called custom. LOL. By the way, awesome looking job on the true duals from the original poster.

i got dual 3". :)

it can be done, anyone who says no doesn't have the skill or they are scared

i got dual 3". :)

it can be done, anyone who says no doesn't have the skill or they are scared
Did you get yours done in SSF ?

Ssf?

south san fransisco..they are going to do my tru duals.I just cant remember the name at the moment but they are suppose to be the best around.

I got mine done in Brentwood, at Oakley muffler. Excellent work.

I got mine done in Brentwood, at Oakley muffler. Excellent work.
Got ay pics of the finished product??

They are dumped at the axle though.

they are a bit dirty as I have an oil leak, but here ya go:

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I *should* have video clips up tomorrow. Its been raining a lot here lately and my laptop crashed. Picking up a new one today.

Cant wait

Looks like shes leakn some oil!

Looks like shes leakn some oil!

maybe you missed this:




they are a bit dirty as I have an oil leak, but here ya go:

That looks great, can't wait for a video.

I added the video to the first post on this thread but its here too:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4118585

Extremely nice. If I could get an exhaust shop to do this in Hawaii, I would buy another LS1 Fbod. :(

How close is that to the ground? Any pics from the side with car off the lift?

Would you gain anything (hp/tq) by running dual electric cutouts in between the header and the crossover? What headers are you running?

I'm running Hooker Long Tubes and the ground clearance is pretty damn good. I can make it over big speed bumps but it scrapes on steep driveways.

i don't think there would be anything to gain by putting cutouts on the setup. the crossover should actually help build power by creating a scavaging affect. and the mufflers are straight through design so the restriction on those is extremely small.

That is truly a winner. Very nice clean job.

check this one out:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599926

i don't think there would be anything to gain by putting cutouts on the setup. the crossover should actually help build power by creating a scavaging affect. and the mufflers are straight through design so the restriction on those is extremely small.

You could put cutouts on the pipes right before they go over the axles. Not sure how much of a gain there would be though.

very interested in this setup, Im interested in what kind of relocation and clearancing you had to do. it looks like you may have dented one of the seat pans up a bit?

Also what are the dimensions of your mufflers?

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii96/pewter_01/undercamaro003.jpg

What mufflers is everyone with trues using? The chambered ones? ---

So it's been a few years since you installed this setup, how's it holding up for you Grip?
And would it be rude if I asked for more detail on the brake/fuel line relocation and wrap?
I'm waiting to do something similar.

So it's been a few years since you installed this setup, how's it holding up for you Grip?
And would it be rude if I asked for more detail on the brake/fuel line relocation and wrap?
I'm waiting to do something similar.

ditto! more detail please!

id like to know if you had to do anything to this inappropriately labelled module?

http://www.joeldevriendt.com/files/public/automotive/95_camaro/dual_exhaust/fitament/IMG_7826.JPG

man thats sweet looking,, i couldnt get any shop around here to do that

maybe someday grip will venture out of the lounge :D