If ford dropped the 5.4L 3V Sohc

Into the base model GT and rated it at 340hp, 390lbs of torque. Would you trade your f-body in on one?

Am i the only one waiting for ford to give the GT the 3V Sohc 5.4L?

Any mustang experts know if it's going to happen?

I'd be surprised if that happened at all en masse.

Somehow Ford is of the thought that 300 hp Lincoln Navigators "are enough horsepower" when the Caddy competitor is at 403...I forgot where specifically that came from on one of my visits at FTE, but there you have it.

So, for every step forward with stuff like the Escape hybrid that Ford takes, that kind of thinking that brings out mainly boring and generic vehicles makes for automotive quicksand.

If Ford really wanted to set Lincoln apart, the base Lincoln vehicle engine would be a 5.4L in EVERY Lincoln, with the v10 as an option.

Dream big, if nothing else...

CAFE would be hurt I think. I thought the 5.4L was coming out in a BOSS or one of those higher then GT models. With limited production CAFE wold not be as affected as much.

The GT is getting a HP upgrade somewhere in the near future. I would say especially with the Dodge Caliber SRT4 laying down 300/260 to Mustang GT's 300/320(or 315, I forget) and probably being priced at or below the GT making it the cheapest 300hp car in the USA which was a selling point for the GT. I havent seen or heard anything firm, but people seem to think a 20 or 30hp increase is on the way.

CAFE would be hurt I think. I thought the 5.4L was coming out in a BOSS or one of those higher then GT models. With limited production CAFE wold not be as affected as much.


The recent announcement regarding the 6.2L Hurricane V8 may change some of that.

Has there been any scuttlebutt on the Hurricane specs? Other than it may be constructed out of compacted graphite iron?

The recent announcement regarding the 6.2L Hurricane V8 may change some of that.


I'd like to see how the Ford 6.2 compares to the GM 6.2.

I'd like to see how the Ford 6.2 compares to the GM 6.2.


The rumors are 425 hp....for starters.

The rumors are 425 hp....for starters.

OHC? OHV?

OHC? OHV?
That has been the question of the month.

Trade my F-body for an uglier car with less power and more weight? Gee I'll have to think about that.

OHC? OHV?

Original "Hurricane" was was OHV, not OHC. The idea was to make a high powered, low cost upper level truck engine.

The OHC 6.8 V10 (which the 6.2 V8 would actually replace) simply isn't cost efficient or competitive in power to the a good OHV V8.

Ford's 6.8 V10 is rated at 310 hp and 425 torque.
GM's new 6.2 is 403 hp and 417 torque.

Safe to say Ford's new 6.2 will top GM's current horsepower and at least match their current V10 in torque.

Into the base model GT and rated it at 340hp, 390lbs of torque. Would you trade your f-body in on one?

Am i the only one waiting for ford to give the GT the 3V Sohc 5.4L?

Any mustang experts know if it's going to happen?


I don't why they dont import the Falcon XR6T engine, put that in the Mustang and it would fly.

I don't why they dont import the Falcon XR6T engine, put that in the Mustang and it would fly.

I'd take the 4.0L turbocharged I-6 in the Falcon XR6 over any of Ford's v8's (even the rumored Hurricane).

The OHC 6.8 V10 (which the 6.2 V8 would actually replace) simply isn't cost efficient or competitive in power to the a good OHV V8.

Ford's 6.8 V10 is rated at 310 hp and 425 torque.
GM's new 6.2 is 403 hp and 417 torque.

Actually its up to 362 HP @ 4750 RPM and 457 ft/lbs @ 3250 RPM

doesn't say anything on the Ford website about variable cam timing on the V10 so I guess it might not have it?

I'd take the 4.0L turbocharged I-6 in the Falcon XR6 over any of Ford's v8's (even the rumored Hurricane).


The Straight 6 turbo looks awesome and i wish ford would throw that into the base model mustangs. :D

The Straight 6 turbo looks awesome and i wish ford would throw that into the base model mustangs. :D

You would have a base model that outperforms the V8..does Ford have a corvette rule as such? It gives the LS2 driven HSV's a run for their money.

You would have a base model that outperforms the V8..does Ford have a corvette rule as such? It gives the LS2 driven HSV's a run for their money.

Could call it SVO-II and be done with it, Then again I wonder if a straight 6 would fit in there? If it did that means so would a V12.

The Straight 6 turbo looks awesome and i wish ford would throw that into the base model mustangs. :D

I think the engine would be a better Lincoln or even Mercury motor than Mustang.

We're talking about an engine that's on par with BMW in sophistication (DOHC, VVT), smoothness, and power output. To top it off, Ford Australia races the begeezus out of this engine, so it's extremely tough and has quite a few performance parts.

I think the engine would be a better Lincoln or even Mercury motor than Mustang.

We're talking about an engine that's on par with BMW in sophistication (DOHC, VVT), smoothness, and power output. To top it off, Ford Australia races the begeezus out of this engine, so it's extremely tough and has quite a few performance parts.

New SVO Mustang?

talkinga bout straight 6's, One of the latest mag's had a pic of then upcoming BMW I6 with twin turbo's. The packaging is a work of art! You can definantly tell some R&D went into packing.

Ford is retarded!!! I work at a dealership and I will tell you that they are years behind GM in performance! They GTs are fast but a 98 LS1 Z or T/A will still smoke it and is a better car period.

Faster yes.

But you'd have a heck of a lot of work to convince anybody the 98 Camaro was a better overall car than the 05 Mustang. It'd take a lot of work to probably convince some of that 98 to 98.

Ford is retarded!!! I work at a dealership and I will tell you that they are years behind GM in performance! They GTs are fast but a 98 LS1 Z or T/A will still smoke it and is a better car period.

:rolleyes:

can you quantify the retarded statement, I really want to know what the "retarded" elements are?

Yes it is true the GT is due up for some more power. I have talked with several people near and dear to Ford and they confirmed it. Also confirmed was the fact that the 5.4 Mil will be availible only in specialty cars like the future Boss's, Bullits', and the like. The 4.6 will stay, but in what form we don't know. There is a possibility of a 4 valve 4.6, but that would raise the price of the GT as well as the weight.

That Hurricane motor is going to loom on the horizon as more of a distant threat until GM comes to market with the New Camaro, as of right now they have no need to pull out any more specialty motors because they think they have the segment won, and for now they do.

Faster yes.

But you'd have a heck of a lot of work to convince anybody the 98 Camaro was a better overall car than the 05 Mustang. It'd take a lot of work to probably convince some of that 98 to 98.

I don't know man. The 98 Mustangs were really something to write home about as far as interior quality is concerned. I woudn't rate my 01 GT's interior to be any better than the z28's interior, as far as quality goes. The GT's ergonomics sucked though, at least for me.

There is a possibility of a 4 valve 4.6, but that would raise the price of the GT as well as the weight.

and probably not worth it, given that the GT is only 20 HP shy of the last NA cobra's rated power with a 3 valve head and two less camshafts. the GT would benefit more from an increase in displacement rather than added complexity (was gonna say sophistication, but there are plenty of tricks that don't require anding all sorts of mechanical gizmos)

I don't know man. The 98 Mustangs were really something to write home about as far as interior quality is concerned. I woudn't rate my 01 GT's interior to be any better than the z28's interior, as far as quality goes. The GT's ergonomics sucked though, at least for me.
True enough but I think you'd at least would have a debate there. I don't think anybody in their right mind who is making a judgement of the best "overall" car will pick a 98 Fbody over an 05 Mustang. If there was a way to eliminate the Ford vs Chevy thing and just had people line up and pick I can't imagine a 98 Fbody getting more than 30% of people picking it in a straight up comparison and that's being generous.

True enough but I think you'd at least would have a debate there. I don't think anybody in their right mind who is making a judgement of the best "overall" car will pick a 98 Fbody over an 05 Mustang. If there was a way to eliminate the Ford vs Chevy thing and just had people line up and pick I can't imagine a 98 Fbody getting more than 30% of people picking it in a straight up comparison and that's being generous.

You are probably right. I still don't like the 05 Mustang's interior though. There are still plenty of cheap looking parts I can identify easily (vent covers for one).

Ford is retarded!!! I work at a dealership and I will tell you that they are years behind GM in performance! They GTs are fast but a 98 LS1 Z or T/A will still smoke it and is a better car period.

I wouldn't say years behind based on mustang GT alone. The 03/04 Cobra's, upcoming 500hp GT500, 03/04 Mach'1 are all fast mustangs and there are many more performance-oriented special editions on the way.

What many don't get is that the GT isn't meant to be crazy fast. The GT is meant to be a BASE performance model. And as a base performance model, 300hp and mid to high 13 sec 1/4 miles are more than enough. It has a role and a place on the mustang lineup and it fills that role quite nicely. For those that want factory performance mustangs beyond the GT, Ford will be offering more powerful options in the coming years....one of which is due this summer (the 500hp/480lb-ft tq GT500).

I just inherited my daughters '98 V6 camaro.Its quite good on gas and im now using it for getting to work. its not too comfortable sitting so low.The car is somewhat crude compared to '05 and up mustangs.Having said that,I find it fun to drive for some reason.Power for a V6 is very good,I hardly have to fill it up(compared to my V8 explorer)and with the 235 tire package it handles pretty good.But when I get into my '06 Roush stg2,you suddenly become aware of the camaro's shortcomings,and im don't mean handling and power.Turn signal snaps,cheap dash look and hard to turn a/c knobs.The one thing I hope for the 5th gen is bigger mirrors so I can actually see whats next to me.those show car mirrors have got to go.The stangs mirrors may be clumsy looking,but they flat work.Im sure chevy will get it right,the show car has the basics to be on par with mustang.

Ford is retarded!!! I work at a dealership and I will tell you that they are years behind GM in performance! They GTs are fast but a 98 LS1 Z or T/A will still smoke it and is a better car period.

Let me get this straight. :blah:

You work at a dealership.

One that presumably makes it's money and whose entire existance (and your paycheck) is based on actually SELLING cars to real people in the real world.

Yet..... Ford is "retarded" for having a profitable Mustang that it's dealers have no problem whatsoever selling (each of Ford's roughly 4,000 dealers sell an average of 40 per year), & not only is fully capable of keeping the car alive but is able to create a new modern version of it without even a hickup in production.

Yet..... Ford is years behind GM and retarded even though not only did GM have a Camaro that didn't sell (each of Chevy's nearly 5,000 dealers sold an average of just 6-8 Camaros per year!), but the Camaro isn't even made anymore, hasn't been in 4 years, and is going to be at least another 2 before it is?

Coop, think with your head instead of your tire-smoked pants. :no: :lol:

:) reality check

...What many don't get is that the GT isn't meant to be crazy fast. The GT is meant to be a BASE performance model. And as a base performance model, 300hp and mid to high 13 sec 1/4 miles are more than enough. It has a role and a place on the mustang lineup and it fills that role quite nicely. For those that want factory performance mustangs beyond the GT, Ford will be offering more powerful options in the coming years....one of which is due this summer (the 500hp/480lb-ft tq GT500).

Somebody gets it!!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

That's what's always killed me about some people here. Look at acceleration as some measure technological advance, and that simply isn't the case and far from the point.

99% of people who buy a fast car aren't buying a fast car because it has the best acceleration of it's class. They buy it because it has whatever it is that's important to them... and it's fast. Whether that factor is the name, or they like the way the car looks, or the car is easier to get in & out of, or easier to live with, or evn if it's the craze of the moment. Saying a car is inferior simply because it's newest model's performance was done by it's competitor some years ago is absolutely silly if that competitor was not only outsold, but has been dead for years.


Mustang GT currently is the quickest car on the planet for the price apparently, so this whole nonsense is a moot point anyway. :lol: