Canda Secures new Camaro Contract!!!!!

Sorry if this is old news....http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/13/canada-secures-new-camaro-contract/

its not news at all, they didn't get a thing, they just want it.

in a moved aimed at securing a contract to build the new Chevrolet Camaro

thats a very misleading title of your post.

in a moved aimed at securing a contract to build the new Chevrolet Camaro

thats a very misleading title of your post.

yep, scared the crapola out of me!

not his fault. that is the title of the article that he links to as well..

Hang him!!!!!!

I ask that you or an admin fix the thread title.

Although the CAW voted in favor of the new contract that allows GM to outsource over 300 maintenence and repair positions, and agree to a "flexible assembly" workplace, none of this takes place unless GM decides to make the investment and the Zeta line at Oshawa.

In short, though the agreement between GM and the CAW lays the foundation for the Zeta line and makes it all but certain the cars including Camaro will be made there, it's not yet final and not quite secure.

Although the CAW voted in favor of the new contract that allows GM to outsource over 300 maintenence and repair positions, and agree to a "flexible assembly" workplace, none of this takes place unless GM decides to make the investment and the Zeta line at Oshawa.

In short, though the agreement between GM and the CAW lays the foundation for the Zeta line and makes it all but certain the cars including Camaro will be made there, it's not yet final and not quite secure.
What happened to Wilmington?

What happened to Wilmington?


That's what we in Wilmington want to know!

Hopefully they won't try to fill the gas tank with maple syrup. :mad:

:o

In short, though the agreement between GM and the CAW lays the foundation for the Zeta line and makes it all but certain the cars including Camaro will be made there, it's not yet final and not quite secure.
Guy,
From what you're suggesting, it sounds like Oshawa is the front runner at this point to make these cars... please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm guessing that the restructuring of the Oshawa facility into the 1 plant is part of the Beacon Project... and I believe that GM, when they announced in November that Oshawa #2 was slated to be closed, specifically reiterated that no funds were going to be taken away from that project.
Just trying to figure out how much smoke there is before calling for the fire trucks!:think:

Best regardSS,

Elie

Guy,
From what you're suggesting, it sounds like Oshawa is the front runner at this point to make these cars... please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm guessing that the restructuring of the Oshawa facility into the 1 plant is part of the Beacon Project... and I believe that GM, when they announced in November that Oshawa #2 was slated to be closed, specifically reiterated that no funds were going to be taken away from that project.
Just trying to figure out how much smoke there is before calling for the fire trucks!:think:

Best regardSS,

Elie


You win the cigar! :D


As for Wilmington, it's going nowhere as far as I can tell & it's getting expanded. I suspect it's for more Kappa, but there is a built in point where Kappa is too expensive to mass produce.

There is a part of Kappa assembly that's done by hand. Because the car was projected to sell at a low number over a relatively short number of years, it was more cost efficient to have workers do this part of assembly than to cough up money for machinary and tooling that could do this. It was a great idea because a new 2 passenger sports car tends to severely drop in sales after the initial 1st few years.

If the Kappa reaches a point where it needs much higher production capacity, it's going to need expensive machinary and major investment to keep up. The plant is already working 3 shifts for just the Solstice (which seems to be filling the volume for all originally planned Kappas), and now the Sky is added, and the Opel GT will begin export soon.

Wilmington I'm convinced was the planned site for the Zeta coupes, and as far as I can tell, still might be. Oshawa #2 ends production of Grand Prix & Lecrosse in 2008CY. Oshawa #1 ends Impala and Monte Carlo in 2009CY. Wilmington is the only GM plant currently capable of easily putting a Camaro on the streets in less than 24 months without disrupting the runs of current cars.

But between the demand for Kappas, the business sense of assembling a coupe (subject to drastic market cycles) on the same line as stable selling sedans, and the new agreement between the CAW and GM over flex assembly and outsourcing, makes it likely that the bigger coupes almost certainly will (and the shorter Camaro seemingly "might") be built up there as well.

We'll know more soon.... I suspect, sooner than we may be expecting. ;)

Oshawa #2 ends production of Grand Prix & Lecrosse in 2008CY. Oshawa #1 ends Impala and Monte Carlo in 2009CY.

So if the car is built in Canada, we may not see the Camaro until 2009 or 10?

Ok Guy.Do you know when we will be finding out when everything will be going into motion and be given the greenlight? Possibly the exact dates? Why I want to know...I can't remember I'd have to get back to you on that one.:D

Ok Guy.Do you know when we will be finding out when everything will be going into motion and be given the greenlight? Possibly the exact dates? Why I want to know...I can't remember I'd have to get back to you on that one.:D
As soon as GM decides to let us know, you'll know.

As soon as GM decides to let us know, you'll know.


I love posts like this. They are the most intellegent and helpful post's that I ever come across. Why even bother typing?

Geeze, don't shoot the messanger here, I'm no stranger to sarcasm. The simple fact of the matter is exactly that. No one will know when it is approved for production UNTIL IT IS APPROVED FOR PRODUCTION. Ask a redundant question, get a blatantly obvious answer, simple as that :)

Edit: Right now, the car IS NOT officially approved for production. The second the big wigs at GM say it is approved for production, they'll take care of the paperwork, sign the contracts with the factories and most likely do a press release. The second that happens, it will probably be posted here. But until that moment, we have to wait because Bob Lutz has not said "Green light the Camaro, give the assembly contract to _____ and start safety testing." Can I spell it out for you more, or do I have to suffer more condescension?

But who will get the Firebird contract? ;)

So if the car is built in Canada, we may not see the Camaro until 2009 or 10?


Bah, I don't think GM will wait until 2009. I think something is going to change, either the model line will be killed earlier or Camaro goes to another plant. Likely the model line will be killed earlier. It's a dieing product anyway.

Camaro is hot for the market now. They have to do it quickly or lose big on sales by missing the musclecar resurgence.

What happened to Wilmington?
I haven't been following the location of production for a while...but I recall that everyone was saying that there was no chance of it going back to Canada...etc. etc.....and now this?

We'll know more soon.... I suspect, sooner than we may be expecting. ;)
Last Friday and Monday's secret meetings have something to do with this?

Bah, I don't think GM will wait until 2009. I think something is going to change, either the model line will be killed earlier or Camaro goes to another plant. Likely the model line will be killed earlier. It's a dieing product anyway.

Camaro is hot for the market now. They have to do it quickly or lose big on sales by missing the musclecar resurgence.
That's my guess as well. The GP/Lacrosse (Allure) are yesterday's cars that aren't selling well at all.

Best regardSS,

Elie

But who will get the Firebird contract? ;)

Wilmington in 2010 ;)

Wilmington in 2010 ;)

Still with the Firebird hope...

It would be nice!