How Do You Think It Will Handle?

I don't know if this has been brought up directly, but How do you think the new Camaro's Handling will be compared to, say, late 4th Gens (LS1's)?

It should handle very well on the twisties. Alot depends on how smooth the surface it runs on is. If they get it right it should be world class

I really believe it will handle better then the previous generations.

I think that is going to depend on the trim levels that you compare, if you are talking smooth versus bumpy surfaces, and of course what the final weight of the car will be.

But I think it will probably outhandle the 4th gen.

I'm disappointed we are going backwards from a double A-arm front end to a strut front, but having said that there are many strut cars out there that handle very well..

I suspect, as long as the car isn't too overweight, it will handle very well. It will be hard to top the 4th gens though.

I'm disappointed we are going backwards from a double A-arm front end to a strut front, but having said that there are many strut cars out there that handle very well..

I suspect, as long as the car isn't too overweight, it will handle very well. It will be hard to top the 4th gens though.

Your 96 doesnt have struts???

Apparently, Holden are said to be very proud of their rear multilink IRS setup. I gather there will be an improvement to ride/handling over the current Commodore... not only that, given Camaro will also sit on Zeta, then I would think its handling threshold would be quite high. I'm optimistic about the Camaro's ride/handling credentials. My money is riding on it! :D

Btw, BMW resorted to using struts up front in place of double-A arms on their M3... It does the job!

This will be the best riding and handling Camaro ever. The IRS and tunning will plant the tires and soak up the bumps unlike some past gens.

I expect the ride and handling will set it apart from the Mustang.

Your 96 doesnt have struts???
No 4th gens had struts.

No 4th gens had struts.
Rear hatch struts! But yes there were no McPherson front struts on 4th gens.

Apparently, Holden are said to be very proud of their rear multilink IRS setup. I gather there will be an improvement to ride/handling over the current Commodore... not only that, given Camaro will also sit on Zeta, then I would think its handling threshold would be quite high. I'm optimistic about the Camaro's ride/handling credentials. My money is riding on it! :D

Btw, BMW resorted to using struts up front in place of double-A arms on their M3... It does the job!

Holden as a company is proud of the new set up's low cost despite it's sophistication. However, there is a contengent there that's not at all happy with it.

Their issue? Compared to the IRS on the current Holdens, the new one is heavier, more expensive, & more complex, but in their opinion is no better than an upgraded version of the existing system, which is loosely based on BMW's 3 series of some years ago.


The front struts are a concession to the added cost of the IRS system. Early on, there was a version of the SLA front suspension that the 4th gen had. It still might appear on the upper models of Zeta (ie: Buick and Pontiac instead of Chevy).

No 4th gens had struts.

Exactly. A coil-over shock isn't the same as a strut. Too many people get that confused.

The Camaro better have world class handling in ALL trim levels. Even the V6. Just because its not LSx powered isnt an excuse for half-assed handling ability. I expect every single car with a Camaro badge to handle, respond, feel and go like a world class sports car. That is Camaro and at a Chevy value price.

It was possible to get a 4th gen that was at par with the Corvette (maybe better). So I'm guessing that the top version of this car will be roughly as good.
As optimistic as I want to be, we can only expect it to be as good as the 4th gen. :)

Exactly. A coil-over shock isn't the same as a strut. Too many people get that confused.

Ahh thought you said double wishbone suspension. I actually changed out one of the front shocks. I assumed because there was a shock tower it was struts. I still dont know the difference between coil over and strut then.

Good example of a front strut car that can handle really well is RSX.

Holden as a company is proud of the new set up's low cost despite it's sophistication. However, there is a contengent there that's not at all happy with it.

Their issue? Compared to the IRS on the current Holdens, the new one is heavier, more expensive, & more complex, but in their opinion is no better than an upgraded version of the existing system, which is loosely based on BMW's 3 series of some years ago.


The front struts are a concession to the added cost of the IRS system. Early on, there was a version of the SLA front suspension that the 4th gen had. It still might appear on the upper models of Zeta (ie: Buick and Pontiac instead of Chevy).

Doh! I hate hearing these kinds of stories... :eek:

I hope all that effort into engineering Zeta into a world class platform doesn't fall over. Surely, the IRS must be better than the current VZ's simple swing arm IRS? The fact that it will be mounted to a subframe should bring notable improvements in refinement. The A-arm set up is inherently a superior design as it limits toe out and camber changes during spirited driving. I can't believe Holden would have stumbled somewhere in its design phase... unless of course, the GM accountants found a way to undo all that hard work.

... unless of course, the GM accountants found a way to undo all that hard work.

My friend, I believe you have hit upon the genesis of most of the quality and engineering issues on our beloved cars. Bean counters.:( They will save a nickel here and a quarter there, and provide a perfectly adequate vehicle, when a truly outstanding vehicle is needed.