Of THESE three engine options, which would you pick?

merlinsteele
03-10-2006, 08:30 PM
Sorry, but after reading so much about who would buy what, including women, I thought I'd put up a poll on these three engine types. Forgive me for not having all the necessary info, but I'm far from being a techie when it comes to engines. Sorry if this poll offends you in some other way, too. :D
And yes, I know I probably don't have nowhere near the right numbers, but please vote just for arguments sake.
Plus I know this only shows us here, not the general public, but oh well, this is the best we can do, I guess.

LandonElf
03-10-2006, 08:37 PM
I don't think its a bad poll at all, but i think price will have a MASSIVE part of my engine choice. if that 400hp engine costs middle to low 30K, then i have no chance, but if it debuts in the 20K area, then who knows........

RussStang
03-10-2006, 08:43 PM
I am gonna go with my gut, and say choice #1 is going to pull ahead pretty strong, given some time for this poll to circulate. There are alot of lurkers here, and this is a performance oriented website.

merlinsteele
03-10-2006, 08:53 PM
LandonElf, you're right; I should have included pricing, although I'm a bit hesitant to do that. If I had done it, I would have liked to have put
V6 comparable to Mustang V6, NOT lower
mid-V8 comparable to Mustang GT, NOT lower
higherlevel-V8 hmmm.. that's tough! What would you guys/gals suggest, around 35 grand?

Okay, take off a bit if you believe it will be lower than the 'stang, but personally I don't see how that's gonna happen. That's JMHO, though.

Leedogg 96TA
03-10-2006, 10:55 PM
well you HAVE to assume that you are NOT gonna get 400 hp for less than 30K in alything!

with that said- 400 hp camaro in the low to mid 30's- I will have one!

Mike2001SS
03-10-2006, 11:38 PM
I do not see why a 400 hp camaro can't be not over $30,000 or a little under and if you are talking vert then maybe $37,000

Leedogg 96TA
03-11-2006, 01:00 AM
I do not see why a 400 hp camaro can't be not over $30,000 or a little under and if you are talking vert then maybe $37,000

Because car companies forgot that you CAN put a high HP motor in a car without everything else but the kitchen sink. I just paid 23 grand for a VW Jetta TDI(42 mpg :) )- and a friend paid 25 grand for a new G6 GTP- and the GTO's they had were 33-34K. I don't believe with the cost of moderate cars that any 400 hp beast will be less than 30,000. I mean- even the Mustang GT(with 100 less ponies) is 26000 without leather...over ~30 with it. If GM builds a 400 hp Camaro it will have all the trimmings.


Sorry for getting off subject.:)

HAZ-Matt
03-11-2006, 01:23 AM
As long as cash is not a problem, let's all vote for the one with 1000HP

ChrisL
03-11-2006, 07:18 AM
well you HAVE to assume that you are NOT gonna get 400 hp for less than 30K in anything!

risky to make assumptions.

:)

Mike2001SS
03-11-2006, 09:42 AM
Because car companies forgot that you CAN put a high HP motor in a car without everything else but the kitchen sink. I just paid 23 grand for a VW Jetta TDI(42 mpg :) )- and a friend paid 25 grand for a new G6 GTP- and the GTO's they had were 33-34K. I don't believe with the cost of moderate cars that any 400 hp beast will be less than 30,000. I mean- even the Mustang GT(with 100 less ponies) is 26000 without leather...over ~30 with it. If GM builds a 400 hp Camaro it will have all the trimmings.


Sorry for getting off subject.:)
Where your thinking is off is a 2001 or 2002 SS Convertible loaded with every SLP opt. could be got for around $37.500 I know I did it. Take off it being a vert and over $4,000 in SLP opts. and you are well under $30,000 and a LS2 cost not much different to make than a LS1. In a hard top car it should be less than $30,000 or at least close

Ron78Z&01SS
03-11-2006, 12:31 PM
Interesting poll, but I think it'll be unrealistically biased towards the most powerful engine.

Sure, most people will say 400hp+, but when it comes down to it, a lot of them won't buy the top dog for one reason or another.

Once you start taking into account insurance, a lot of younger guys are going to opt for the lower engine. When I was selling both my 95 Z28 and later my 01 SS, I had A LOT of interest from younger guys until they saw they couldn't afford the insurance AND payments.

Hell, once you start figuring the cost of a new car AND whatever the extra cost would be for a top dog V-8, it just won't be affordable to some people. When I was 18 (or even 28 for that matter) I would have voted for the top engine also, but in NO WAY would I have been realistically able to buy one.

Yeah, I'll be watching the poll, but I don't think it will tell you a whole lot on what people would realistically buy.

.......just my opinion of course :)

AZZKKER
03-11-2006, 12:51 PM
well i picked the 400+ option, but if they offer a higher horsepower engine i would most likely go with that and not the ls2.

merlinsteele
03-11-2006, 01:08 PM
Interesting poll, but I think it'll be unrealistically biased towards the most powerful engine.

Sure, most people will say 400hp+, but when it comes down to it, a lot of them won't buy the top dog for one reason or another.

Once you start taking into account insurance, a lot of younger guys are going to opt for the lower engine. When I was selling both my 95 Z28 and later my 01 SS, I had A LOT of interest from younger guys until they saw they couldn't afford the insurance AND payments.

Hell, once you start figuring the cost of a new car AND whatever the extra cost would be for a top dog V-8, it just won't be affordable to some people. When I was 18 (or even 28 for that matter) I would have voted for the top engine also, but in NO WAY would I have been realistically able to buy one.

Yeah, I'll be watching the poll, but I don't think it will tell you a whole lot on what people would realistically buy.

.......just my opinion of course :)

I agree with you, that is my opinion as well. Sure, I'd like to have the 'top dog' Camaro, who wouldn't? But when I voted, I kept in mind all those things you mentioned, actual cost, insurance, gas (mpg), etc...
ANOTHER poll that would be interesting would be after the Camaro comes out, to see who truly buys the Camaro that they stated they would buy! :)

1stls1
03-12-2006, 10:14 AM
I as well voted for the top dog. I'm also hoping there is a mid-level 400hp and a top dog 400+hp motor. With that said, that would deff change the outcome of this poll.

AZZKKER
03-12-2006, 11:35 AM
Im sure there are some people out there that vote for the top dog but wont be able to afford it. I know if i was not setting money aside this early in the game so i can have a very big down payment, then i would probably not be able to afford the big motor. Figure $50 to $100 buck a week set aside will add up in the 2 or 3 years it wil take to get it on the road.

just some food for thought.

notgetleft
03-12-2006, 03:26 PM
I can't answer this because the specific output of the engine doesn't matter as much as thre rest of the package it comes in.

What i mean is, if the 400+ hp engine is only available with a kidney busting suspension then i would just as soon buy a a sleeper 5.3L car and mod that to suit my needs.

If both engines are available with sporting but not road race ready suspensions though, then i'll probably get the big'un

Same if there are gaudy body kits or any other BS associated with the higher output engine.

orbitalshock2k
03-12-2006, 08:52 PM
IMO a sub 400HP Camaro cannot sell in todays market. Ford will meet or exceed a 300HP or so Camaro, it will be less expensive, and people will be more willing to buy the Ford because it is more reputable. The GTO factor also comes in, why buy a sub-par machine for speed when the GTO has been out?

AZZKKER
03-12-2006, 09:02 PM
i think it is a safe bet that it will make at least 390 hp because the ssr made that at the end of its production.

Abidar
03-12-2006, 11:22 PM
obviously this is an enthusiast's site

merlinsteele
03-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Checking back on this every so often since it's start, it seems funny to me that the choice for 400+ hp has stayed right around 85 or 86 percent all this time! Really strange. I'm still surprised that even here at this enthusiast's site that so many people would make this choice. Show's what 'I' know! :D

SSbaby
03-13-2006, 08:14 PM
Only 1 woman responded. Just goes to show, Camaro is a guy's car.... or more correctly, this site attracts mainly male enthusiasts. Maybe Camaro will attract more buyers of the female persuasion after it debuts? I know I saw some females driving Mustangs last time I was there albeit the 6 cyl version.

EllwynX
03-13-2006, 08:57 PM
Only 1 woman responded. Just goes to show, Camaro is a guy's car.... or more correctly, this site attracts mainly male enthusiasts. Maybe Camaro will attract more buyers of the female persuasion after it debuts? I know I saw some females driving Mustangs last time I was there albeit the 6 cyl version.

I've met MANY females over the years that drive (or drove) Mustangs.

I work with a woman who's in her 60's and has an older (80's style) Mustang convertible, as well as a 1999 Mustang GT Convertible that was obviously owned by a young guy who modified it at least a little and has a slightly ricey rear spoiler and clear corner lamps...

The Assistant Administrator at my prison has a previous model Mustang Convertible (V6 I believe), and another young woman I work with had a 2000 Mustang (V6) up until just under a year ago when she got pregnant and realized the Mustang wasn't gonna cut it with a newborn anymore so traded it for a 2005 Maxima (Luckily her brother has more taste than her and has, or at least had, a 4th Gen Z28).

I've always seen as many females driving Mustangs as males in my area. Mustang has always struck me as more of a '*itch car' than a Camaro or Firebird. LOL No offense to anyone meant. It's a running joke at work between myself and an officer as to who's car is the biggest '*itch car'. He even admits his is worse than my Aveo since it's a Mecury Capri. LOL Though he makes up for it since he also has a big truck....