Camaro Z28 M6 1LE + Snow = Oh, man.

95nicotineZ
02-20-2006, 01:58 AM
I've owned my 95 M6 1LE Z28 for two months now and just yesterday did I get to make the dreaded "snow drive". "Hockey puck", they said. "Undrivable", they said. "You're @#$*ed", they said. Not at all! My car was good mannered and drove very well in the wet nasty snow we got. Not unsafe at all, not all over the road. Mostly. The Cadillac CTS-Vs we have at our dealership won't make it up our service drive-up when it snows. Great choice for Sierra Nevada driving, right? A Z28?:rolleyes:

I've found that you must observe a few things to make sure your Camaro gets you there in the snow:

1. DON'T press on the gas pedal. Just rest your foot on it.:think:
2. DON'T stop or brake if you can. Just casually roll slowly towards and away from stop signs and red lights.
3. DON'T brake in a turn. Just go slow as hell and gradually remove your foot from the gas pedal and hope you have posi (I do).
4. DON'T drive in 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Get to 4th and stay there. Trust me.;)
5. DO put a piece of electrical tape over the "LOW TRAC" light. OR shoot it.

And finally, when the Nevada Highway Patrol stops you and asks why you don't have cable chains on your car, embarass them by pointing out the shocking "M+S" designation on your XYZ brand Z-rated 50-series(!!!) tires you put on for winter! Man was he pissed. "Okay, uh, well, umm, just be careful and good luck. Have a good night."

More snow this week. Great. Oh, well.

-Dave

RussStang
02-20-2006, 02:05 AM
Good luck getting up an incline you may get stopped on. This is my 4th winter in a rwd v8 coupe. As long as you are on flat ground, you are fun. Just avoid the hills.

wrd1972
02-20-2006, 02:06 PM
My dad owned a 1990 Mustang GT a while back and it had h rated Goodyear ST all weather tires and it performed very well in snow. I felt as comfortable in that as I did a 2 wheel drive truck.

The secret to any vehicle reall y working well is the tires.

Now I had a 1989 Mustang GT with z rated performance tires which made the car undriveable in winter conditions.

Same exact car with different types of tires made all the difference in the world.

frusciante fan
02-20-2006, 03:50 PM
i'm on 235 goodyear american eagle's in my first winter and as long i don't drive like a jackass i don't have any problems in snow. ice? forget about it. don't even try. my dad had his '77 camaro out while we were moving some stuff and was trying to drive back into our garage when the whole driveway was ice. that was hilarious.

kingman109
02-20-2006, 06:06 PM
only car ive ever owned have been camaros. and i live in both CT and Rochester NY (hour from buffalo)

drive my camaros year round and am currently driving the cammed one in sig with 555R's. Yes its prob not the smartest thing to do but it can be done with some common sense.

another rule to add

6) if the car cant be moved out of the parking spot under its own power then leave it there. its better that way

TobyZ28
02-20-2006, 07:26 PM
Any car "can" drive on the snow. But unless you really really know the car well, Camaros I would slot in the shouldn't category. I drive mine all year round, sure if its light enough snow and level i can get around. BUT its too easy for the wrong conditions to pop up, ie the slightest incline and your spinning tires like mad (I have an A4, must be nice going into 4th on a M6 :D ). Weight in the trunk REALLY helps us get some more traction... for me in vancouver its a must. Also, packed slushy snow/ice is really bad. The type of snow really affects the grip too, sometimes its hardly a problem, other times ive had my car in drive and the tires would spin WITHOUT my feet on the gas... on near-level ground. I had to pull out the shovels that day and decided to park it at home till the snow cleared lol.

Although I think i can safely drive the car on the snow for most trips, its the conditions that your car CANT handle in that you'll need it the most. Thats why I would probably say that our cars are not a safe car to drive in the snow :(

Ie. You could be keeping some huge distance between you and the car infront, when someone decided to pull inbetween and then slames on his brakes at a light ahead. Unless the car has LOTS of room to stop or is going REALLY slow, you're probably going to nose right into his bumper. :(

95nicotineZ
02-20-2006, 11:34 PM
Rule #6 is perfect. Just leave it there.

Now, due to Nevada's historically bizarre weather :confused: , it's spring during the day and winter at night. It was actually snowing with the sun out on Saturday. I guess I'll have to get some actual snow tires mounted on those steel wheels the super-base Camaros come with. No wheel covers, though.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/fffourtwenty/wheelcovers.gif

Yuk.

Bayer-Z28
02-21-2006, 03:22 AM
huh......Ya'll been lucky...

I had my car for a month and I went off the road. I was taking my buddy for a ride, and I came up this small incline and it leveled out. I put it in 4th or 5th to save gas and feathered that throttle a little too much and the rear said F*K you! I got sideways on black ice and slid off the road doing about 35. I slid sideways over some snow banks. Didn't f*k the front end up too much, nothing noticeable, unless you really look. It shoved the front over aout 1/2 an inch. =$2000 worth of dammage. :rolleyes:

Still haven't gotten it fixed. Prolly when I get back. All I saw was a tree headign twords my driver's side door, I thought I was going to hit it!

THat sucked!

robvas
02-21-2006, 11:40 AM
Get some real snow tires and you'll be fine. At least get 2 for the back.

goldwing22mn
02-21-2006, 12:48 PM
I live in Minnesota, and I have been driving my cars as a daily driver for 2 years now. Had a 94 Z A4 last winter, and a 98 Z A4 this winter. if it is deep snow, forget about it. everything else is ok, except hard, plowed smooth hardpack. had my 98 out this past weekend, and driving very cautiously at about 20mph my tail slid out under idle torque and i ended up doing a 270. didnt break anything, didnt go off the road, but thats on a flat road. last winter we had 6" come down in an afternoon, and i couldnt for the life of me get it out of a stop light with a very slight hill..

putting some good snow tires on helps, weight in the back helps, but keeping it in the garage is even better yet... i completely agree with #6

scottso
02-21-2006, 03:04 PM
I thought my '85 Mustang GT was bad until I bought my first ('95) camaro. More than a couple of inches on the road and the plastic scoop underneath by the radiator acts like... well ... a scoop:eek: - and wants to make the front end float around. The road abolutely must be freshly plowed.

Compstall
02-26-2006, 01:24 PM
Yeah, it's the "1LE" you have. My "Z28" gets around just fine.