Outlook shelved!

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums...showtopic=6065

WTF!

 

Eeeeeeeer .....ok . Scratching my head on that one

 

Has anyone said anything about this besides Josh? I'll wait for confirmation before I get my hopes up. That's right, I said hopes up. You see, this would not be bad news. Not by a long shot. It would merely mean that someone in GM sobered up long enough to think, "Wait a minute, why are we giving our prized product to our sh*ttiest, most underperforming brand?"

I'm also an unabashed Pontiac fan, and I have come to the conclusion that Saturn's loss is Pontiac's gain. The Outlook seems too far along to be completely scrapped. It will appear somewhere. I wouldn't mind seeing it surface six months from now as a truly sporty utility for the Arrowhead brand.

Again though, I'll wait for confirmation.

 

Who do you need confirmation from? We told everybody about the GMT900's. We told everybody about the Buick LaCrosse Super that is set to be announced at New York. Somehow, more "confirmation" needs to be done?

GM will not confirm it directly. Instead AutoWeek will toss out a vague question and GM will answer it blunt and AutoWeek will run with it. That's how it always goes.

The Saturn Lambda is on the shelf and a production decision will be made within the next 4 weeks. GM will tell you that the Outlook is still on and nothing has changed because they have to.

 

i think the point is, the final decision hasn't YET been made. you are probably correct with your insider info about GM "thinking about it" since we have no reason to doubt it. but we'll just wait and see which way the wind blows. in the end, if GM decides to "go" with it, all this drama will have been for nothing. if otherwise then you could say "I told you so"

 

I want confirmation from one of the many insiders that float around these sites. That's not a slight against you or C&G. If I read something from any one source, I'd want to see it said somewhere else before I beleived it. If Guy says something, I'm gonna want to hear Charlie or Fbodfather or someone in the know to say the same thing.

 

I am confused on this one...

 

Boooooooogus.

Sorry Josh, not trying to slap you in the face, but you should know better.

 

GMX002 was cancelled and now this, the GMT 966 is on the block? It's too close to comfort.

 

Are you implying that Saturn is in trouble Josh?

 

They are going with Eudora instead

 

or maybe thunderbird?

 

If true, then another division is going to have to inherit the thing.

There is precident to something like this (GM belately cancelled the 1998 B-bodies after spending a small fortune finishing all the work and certification for the LT1 to be replaced by the LS1), but at this late stage in the game, there really is too much invested.

I can see the vehicle being held up for a grill makeover before sending it to Chevy, but unless it's sharing more body and interior styling and cosmetic parts than we realize with Buick's Enclave, I think it's more likely to be reassigned than to be killed outright.

 

From the Acadia spy shots the interior stuff is the same with different vents, trim, and guages.

I will say Josh is 100% believable.

Also apparently the Chevy Lambda is done and I don't think it shares anything with the Saturn. The only other thing I could possibly see is Holden getting a rebadge Outlook when GM tries to get back some of its investment, design theme is similar and Aus likes big cars so why not try a big SUV (apparently the VE crossovers weren't a high priority).

 

I don't understand the reason for this? So Saturn in keeping the Relay instead now? and why would Chevy get one too? With Buick and Chevy getting one, that makes the GMC pointless.