Headlight upgrade

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 10:07 AM
I have carbon fiber headlight covers that diminish night time lighting. They aren't blackouts but probably fall into the category of smoked. I realize they are not legal but I can remove them at will and I rarely have the car out in the night. Still, I would like to improve my light projection on the rare occasions that I'm driving after dark.

I have read that headlights don't just blow out, they degrade. I'm thinking any new bulb will brighten things up some. I have also read that my 95s rectangular sealed beams can be modified to accept a replacement bulb even though they are designed to be replaced in total. I'm guessing that I can carefully pry the lighting element structure from the sealed beam and "glue" a bulb into the new opening in the sealed beam. From what I'm reading here, it would seem that I can buy the Silverstar bulbs and glue them into my sealed beam unit with silicone sealant. Can this also be done with the PIAA replacement bulbs and are PIAA just another type of bulb and if so, are they significantly better for this modification?

Also, I'd like to know more about upgrading to 85W bulbs. Do I need to get new or replacement relays and how difficult is it to re-wire the section of the harness to 12 gauge; where are the relays and do I need to disassemble any part of the vehicle to replace the wire and/or relay(s)?

Thanks

AlfredB18
02-13-2006, 10:51 AM
I have carbon fiber headlight covers that diminish night time lighting. They aren't blackouts but probably fall into the category of smoked. I realize they are not legal but I can remove them at will and I rarely have the car out in the night. Still, I would like to improve my light projection on the rare occasions that I'm driving after dark.

I have read that headlights don't just blow out, they degrade. I'm thinking any new bulb will brighten things up some. I have also read that my 95s rectangular sealed beams can be modified to accept a replacement bulb even though they are designed to be replaced in total. I'm guessing that I can carefully pry the lighting element structure from the sealed beam and "glue" a bulb into the new opening in the sealed beam. From what I'm reading here, it would seem that I can buy the Silverstar bulbs and glue them into my sealed beam unit with silicone sealant. Can this also be done with the PIAA replacement bulbs and are PIAA just another type of bulb and if so, are they significantly better for this modification?

Also, I'd like to know more about upgrading to 85W bulbs. Do I need to get new or replacement relays and how difficult is it to re-wire the section of the harness to 12 gauge; where are the relays and do I need to disassemble any part of the vehicle to replace the wire and/or relay(s)?

Thanks

1. Your eyes aren't kidding you, ANY covers over headlamps diminish light output. There's no way around that.

2. Since this last paragraph is a short "?", I suggest reading up on headlight wiring at danielsternlighting.com, as he has this stuff already lined out for you.

3. As for the biggie about lights for the crummy factory headlights, well, if you could do something about the actual lens and reflector in the factory units, Silverstars would help. But, not really, since 55w coated bulbs can't do anymore than a clear 55w bulb. I just read a CR report yesterday at a mall bookstore that showed that the GE Nighthawks were the best performers out of this genre of bulb, but it tested only better than OEM clear bulbs in a Honda Ridgeline, but all were inconsistent in various other vehicles! It's your money, you have been informed. PIAAs are no better. Just even more overpriced than Silverstars.

Google for "Consumer reports headlight bulb test" (without quotes, mind you)and get the jist of it.

Anyway, I pretty much said "screw it" and bought two pairs of Nissan s13 car projectors. I only wanted one pair, but hey, who can complain....that should help things when I get to test fit them in a few days.

meissenation
02-13-2006, 11:36 AM
I bought EuroLight.com's headlight conversion kit. Instead of having sealed beams, I can now plug in bulbs on the fly, no gluing or anything like that. I tried the method of gluing in bulbs into the stock headlights and my bulbs wouldn't last more than 6 months even if I was careful as can be about not getting anything on the bulb.

oneslowz28
02-13-2006, 12:28 PM
I bought EuroLight.com's headlight conversion kit.


link me to them i cant seem to find them anywhere



ps. the cars looking god man

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 12:37 PM
I bought EuroLight.com's headlight conversion kit. Instead of having sealed beams, I can now plug in bulbs on the fly, no gluing or anything like that. I tried the method of gluing in bulbs into the stock headlights and my bulbs wouldn't last more than 6 months even if I was careful as can be about not getting anything on the bulb.
Can you guide me a little on what I should buy. I'm on the eurolights.com site but for me the information is scant. What exactly did YOU buy?

If you had it to do again, would you have bought anything different?

thanks

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 12:57 PM
Ah, this is better than I thought. They (eurolights.com) have a faq and promise to reply to questions. If they come back with a good reply that tells me what I need, I'll place the order. I didn't want to get too deeply into this as the car is purely a pleasure vehicle and will see very little miles. Thanks for the tip.

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 01:02 PM
link me to them i cant seem to find them anywhere
it's http://eurolamps.com/eurolamps/home.htm

6SpdLT1Z
02-13-2006, 01:49 PM
I used Silverstar 9006's in my stock housings. Tore old ones out, epoxy'd new ones in. Works great.


Silverstar 9006 - Low
Silverstar 9005 - High

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 01:56 PM
Sheesh, eurolamps.com replied already. They have a complete conversion package for $149 shipped. Choice of Blue White, Blue Gold and Yellow Ion.

I know the blue white are difficult to look into on incoming traffic. I think I either want the Blue Gold or Yellow Ion. Both of the latter claim 25% increase in lighting. For some reason the Blue White has no percent claim.

Anyone have a recommendation on the color?

thanks

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 02:08 PM
1. Your eyes aren't kidding you, ANY covers over headlamps diminish light output. There's no way around that.

2. Since this last paragraph is a short "?", I suggest reading up on headlight wiring at danielsternlighting.com, as he has this stuff already lined out for you.

3. As for the biggie about lights for the crummy factory headlights, well, if you could do something about the actual lens and reflector in the factory units, Silverstars would help. But, not really, since 55w coated bulbs can't do anymore than a clear 55w bulb. I just read a CR report yesterday at a mall bookstore that showed that the GE Nighthawks were the best performers out of this genre of bulb, but it tested only better than OEM clear bulbs in a Honda Ridgeline, but all were inconsistent in various other vehicles! It's your money, you have been informed. PIAAs are no better. Just even more overpriced than Silverstars.

Google for "Consumer reports headlight bulb test" (without quotes, mind you)and get the jist of it.

Anyway, I pretty much said "screw it" and bought two pairs of Nissan s13 car projectors. I only wanted one pair, but hey, who can complain....that should help things when I get to test fit them in a few days.

I take it your talking about a comparison of "stock sealed beams" and not the glue in 9005/9006 Halogen bulbs. As these are considerably brighter than stock, even in the stock lenses and do not require any wiring mods.

Broken5hift
02-13-2006, 02:22 PM
I bought EuroLight.com's headlight conversion kit. Instead of having sealed beams, I can now plug in bulbs on the fly, no gluing or anything like that. I tried the method of gluing in bulbs into the stock headlights and my bulbs wouldn't last more than 6 months even if I was careful as can be about not getting anything on the bulb.

x2. unless you wanna rewire your entire electrical system just buy the plug n play housings.

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 02:26 PM
Sheesh, eurolamps.com replied already. They have a complete conversion package for $149 shipped. Choice of Blue White, Blue Gold and Yellow Ion.

I know the blue white are difficult to look into on incoming traffic. I think I either want the Blue Gold or Yellow Ion. Both of the latter claim 25% increase in lighting. For some reason the Blue White has no percent claim.

Anyone have a recommendation on the color?

thanks

Please post when your install is complete. Don't know if this is the same guy but when I ordered my kit (high and low beams) from the E-Bay site I got two low beam reflectors/lenses modified correctly, ie. they were a bolt in. But the high beams were in fact two modified low beam reflector/lenses and would have to be install upside down and a notch cut out of the light support structure. Each stock reflector and lens is designed for for its specific spot and has a specific beam pattern for that light. In other works, the pattern for the high beams is different then the pattern for the low beams. Turning a low beam lens upside down will not provide the correct beam pattern for proper lighting. I had to go out and buy my own high beams and mod them using the parts off those from the kit.

oneslowz28
02-13-2006, 02:48 PM
ordering a kit now

oneslowz28
02-13-2006, 02:48 PM
ordering a kit now

Z28_95RIDE
02-13-2006, 02:52 PM
Please post when your install is complete. Don't know if this is the same guy but when I ordered my kit (high and low beams) from the E-Bay site I got two low beam reflectors/lenses modified correctly, ie. they were a bolt in. But the high beams were in fact two modified low beam reflector/lenses and would have to be install upside down and a notch cut out of the light support structure. Each stock reflector and lens is designed for for its specific spot and has a specific beam pattern for that light. In other works, the pattern for the high beams is different then the pattern for the low beams. Turning a low beam lens upside down will not provide the correct beam pattern for proper lighting. I had to go out and buy my own high beams and mod them using the parts off those from the kit.

Does this look familiar when you bought off of ebaymotors:

Mike C.
@EuroLights(tm)

I really don't want the high beams to be low beams turned upside down. Please let me know if this is the same source.

Thanks

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 03:22 PM
Does this look familiar when you bought off of ebaymotors:

Mike C.
@EuroLights(tm)

I really don't want the high beams to be low beams turned upside down. Please let me know if this is the same source.

Thanks

It does look like the same stuff. Unfortunately I can't be sure, I got mine some time ago. Sorry Might E-Mail them.

ImportKILLER
02-13-2006, 04:43 PM
I take it your talking about a comparison of "stock sealed beams" and not the glue in 9005/9006 Halogen bulbs. As these are considerably brighter than stock, even in the stock lenses and do not require any wiring mods.

:lol:

I'll leave that alone.

As for the original poster, unless those tinted bulbs are 80w or above, you will have less output than your stock bulbs. The color of the bulb will look different but the output will be worse than stock. I would email EuroLights and ask for the TRUE voltage of the bulbs and not the "equivalent" output.

You'll often see "55w --> 80w" which just isn't true.

meissenation
02-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Whoops, sorry guys that it took so long to respond:
http://eurolamps.com/eurolamps/camaro_headlights.htm

I bought the lowbeam blue/white highoutput, $88. Installation is as follows: Unscrew the two torx screws that hold the metal brace over the headlight. Unplug the stock sealed beam housing. Plug new conversion housing into socket. Put metal brace back into position.. screw torx screws in. Installation time: 5 minutes. Difficulty: 9 year old child could do it.

In all honesty, it was the best $88 I spent on my headlights. At the rate I was going paying $20 for new bulbs all the time, it added up and didn't make sense when I could just buy the lowbeam conversion and have it done right. Brightness is even better than the sylvania silverstars.

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 05:44 PM
:lol:

I'll leave that alone.

As for the original poster, unless those tinted bulbs are 80w or above, you will have less output from your stock bulbs. The color of the bulb will look different but the output will be worse than stock. I would email EuroLights and ask for the TRUE voltage of the bulbs and not the "equivalent" output.

You'll often see "55w --> 80w" which just isn't true.

Have you actually done this or are you just talking out of your a**?

ImportKILLER
02-13-2006, 06:01 PM
Have you actually done this or are you just talking out of your a**?

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/403803/2

I've done at least 25 different 9006 bulb swaps, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 06:40 PM
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/403803/2

I've done at least 25 different 9006 bulb swaps, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Well you've got me completely confussed now. You infer there is no difference in these bulbs than you put up a web site that clearly show there is.

ImportKILLER
02-13-2006, 06:43 PM
Well you've got me completely confussed now. You infer there is no difference in these bulbs than you put up a web site that clearly show there is.

Where did I "infer" there was no difference?

I told the original poster to avoid any tinted bulbs below 80w. Tinted bulbs below 80w will be worse than stock.

I put up my website to show you that I wasn't, in your words, talking out of my ass.

Z28SORR
02-13-2006, 07:56 PM
Where did I "infer" there was no difference?

I told the original poster to avoid any tinted bulbs below 80w. Tinted bulbs below 80w will be worse than stock.

I put up my website to show you that I wasn't, in your words, talking out of my ass.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z28SORR
I take it your talking about a comparison of "stock sealed beams" and not the glue in 9005/9006 Halogen bulbs. As these are considerably brighter than stock, even in the stock lenses and do not require any wiring mods.




I'll leave that alone.

Even though I wasn't asking you, you clearly went out of your way to make this snide remark with the laughing happy face. Infering that I'm wrong and thereby infering that there is no difference between the stock bulbs and the Halogen.

Z28_95RIDE
02-14-2006, 01:23 PM
Please post when your install is complete. Don't know if this is the same guy but when I ordered my kit (high and low beams) from the E-Bay site I got two low beam reflectors/lenses modified correctly, ie. they were a bolt in. But the high beams were in fact two modified low beam reflector/lenses and would have to be install upside down and a notch cut out of the light support structure.
I'm trying to get an answer regarding the high beam lenses (reflectors). So far all I got for an answer is that I would have 9006 and 9005 bulbs. Not what I wanted to know. I've sent another message asking more directly about the high beam lenses being the same part as the low beams. No reply. I hope they haven't grown tired of answering. If it goes much longer I will just order the low beams.

thanks

Cerwin Vega Fan
02-14-2006, 01:50 PM
1. Your eyes aren't kidding you, ANY covers over headlamps diminish light output. There's no way around that.

2. Since this last paragraph is a short "?", I suggest reading up on headlight wiring at danielsternlighting.com, as he has this stuff already lined out for you.

3. As for the biggie about lights for the crummy factory headlights, well, if you could do something about the actual lens and reflector in the factory units, Silverstars would help. But, not really, since 55w coated bulbs can't do anymore than a clear 55w bulb. I just read a CR report yesterday at a mall bookstore that showed that the GE Nighthawks were the best performers out of this genre of bulb, but it tested only better than OEM clear bulbs in a Honda Ridgeline, but all were inconsistent in various other vehicles! It's your money, you have been informed. PIAAs are no better. Just even more overpriced than Silverstars.

Google for "Consumer reports headlight bulb test" (without quotes, mind you)and get the jist of it.

Anyway, I pretty much said "screw it" and bought two pairs of Nissan s13 car projectors. I only wanted one pair, but hey, who can complain....that should help things when I get to test fit them in a few days.

When you get the S13 projectors done make sure to post it here. I can't wait to see it done.

Z28_95RIDE
02-15-2006, 10:30 AM
ordering a kit now
I was just about to order from them (eurolamps.com) but they quit responding to me when I asked if the high beam reflectors were a unique part or if it was just the low beam inverted with a high beam bulb. I've sent two messages and both have gone without a response. My first messages asking about the package deal and bulb colors were answered within the hour.

They are probably alright but I want to get at least one more answer from them to keep me from being suspicious about the high beam deal. I'm thinking eurolamps.com may have put me on the ignore list thinking I'm trying to steal their design and just make something up on my own. $149 is not throw away change, I want to make sure of what I'm buying seeing how they have no pictures of the conversion on their web page.

If anyone has any dealing with them, please speak up. I would like to get the conversion rather than gluing bulbs into my sealed beams. If anyone knows of another seller, I'd like to check into that as well.

thanks

Honda Hunter
02-15-2006, 11:39 AM
When you get the S13 projectors done make sure to post it here. I can't wait to see it done.
I wouldnt hold your breath. Everyone talks about doing it but nobody ever does it.

DrivingZiggy
02-16-2006, 01:12 AM
I just did my low beams yesterday with 9006s. I'm happy with the results. Another difference I found: I had already replaced the right headlight with a Sylvania. It was easier to "set" the new 9906 into and also the light pattern on the road is different. I like it better. I'm probably going to buy another one just so that I can have the pattern looking the same.

Oh, and I adjusted my high beams further up and that gave a really good result, too!

Z95m6
02-16-2006, 01:47 AM
Just get some Hella FF75's of some of the 90mm's and be done with it.

EvilDCustoms
02-16-2006, 08:11 PM
i got the same kit as meissenation got from eurolights.com and i paid a total of $88, i also got the blue/white ones and the look white at night, and have tint if blue during the day, worth everypenny in my opinion, they give u 9006 low beam bubls, which u can then switch out to whatever u want but those things are bright as hell
check out my cardomain page, i have pics of it up on there http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2179476