lca relocation brackets

cabe_z28
02-09-2006, 10:28 PM
are weld in lca brackets better than bolt in lca brackets?

what does everyone have?

hotpart
02-09-2006, 11:56 PM
It depends on what you are doing with the car. I can tell you we have never had a bolt in bracket fail, our calculations show they will never fail. We do use a little thicker material than most. If you want the strongest out I would recommend our bolt on brackets and tack them in place.

1msfyter
02-10-2006, 01:35 AM
I tack welded my bolt ons just in case. great mod to do.

wrd1972
02-10-2006, 01:25 PM
I have the tubular LCA's and PHB.
I am probobly going to go with the bolt-ons and do the tack welds as well.

My question is can you see the brackets through the wheels and what effect do you get by using one set of holes versus the other?

Bud M
02-10-2006, 09:16 PM
I've had BMR bolt ons on the car for a couple of years now, no problems.

hotpart
02-10-2006, 10:53 PM
The lower you drop the rear of the lca the more anti-squat you will get. What anti-squat does is as the weight transfers during acceleration the tires get loaded more (forced to the ground) with the more anti-squat you have. That action of forcing the tires to the ground is what gives you better traction. This is a very simplistic way of describing anti-squat but I think it will answer your question. If you would like more detail let me know and I can do that for you. There are also some good books such as "tune to win" by Carroll Smith and Herb Adams has a pretty good book called "chassis engineering".

cabe_z28
02-10-2006, 11:04 PM
what i'm concerned about is failure in the bolt ons.

when you say that you have done calculations and you have never had one fail, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

what kind of calculations do you do?

MyShibbyZ28
02-10-2006, 11:08 PM
Here's a fairly simple explanation I made a little bit ago http://www.geocities.com/scwizzo/explanations.html

I don't know if it's understandable seeing as I never get feedback, but I hope it helps.

Also, I would buy from hotpart any day. Very nice, good stuff, good prices.

MyShibbyZ28
02-10-2006, 11:10 PM
what i'm concerned about is failure in the bolt ons.

when you say that you have done calculations and you have never had one fail, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

what kind of calculations do you do?
He probably means calculations of force and what the brackets can hold, right hotpart? If the bracket can hold X amount of force, but the car only delivers half of X the bracket will never brake, according to the calculations.

cabe_z28
02-11-2006, 01:03 AM
that is a pretty sweet drawing shibbyz28.

very helpful. thanks

380ss
02-13-2006, 01:20 AM
From Spohn Performance Inc.

Brackets are Laser-Cut from 3/16" cold rolled steel using state-of-the-art CAD/CAM technology for precision tolerances. Must be welded into place. Hardware is included. Since the brackets must be welded in place, we ship them bare. Weld in LCA Relocation Brackets are the only SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to install them.

wrd1972
02-13-2006, 09:24 AM
Do the LCA's reloacation brackets effect normal highway driving in any way?

380ss
02-13-2006, 11:17 AM
Do the LCA's reloacation brackets effect normal highway driving in any way?

No, they will be fine

cabe_z28
02-13-2006, 03:48 PM
well now, who should i believe?

some of you say bolt-ons are fine, but others say weld-ons are the only safe and effective way to go...

ok, are bolt-ons safe for normal daily driver, and sometimes drag racing?

cuz i would rather bolt some on than pay someone to weld them in.

wrd1972
02-13-2006, 04:08 PM
well now, who should i believe?

some of you say bolt-ons are fine, but others say weld-ons are the only safe and effective way to go...

ok, are bolt-ons safe for normal daily driver, and sometimes drag racing?

cuz i would rather bolt some on than pay someone to weld them in.


:rolleyes:
werd

380ss
02-13-2006, 05:22 PM
I'm sticking with my "SAFE and EFFECTIVE" statment.

hotpart
02-13-2006, 10:14 PM
The bolt on units are fine. If you are concerned simply throw some 1/2" stitch welds on them.

MyShibbyZ28
02-14-2006, 03:33 PM
The bolt on units are fine. If you are concerned simply throw some 1/2" stitch welds on them.
Exactly, if you want to you can always weld them on later.

Transamdriver
02-14-2006, 04:23 PM
I have bolt on's and no problems here, I use ET drag radials at the track also.