Should the concept V8 Camaro be called an SS or Z28?

I know that this has been a great topic of debate so I would like to know, through this poll, how many people favor one badge over the other. I have a Z28 so naturally I would favor the Z28 badge over the SS badge, but I also favor it for one other reason: the Z28 badge was meant for only one car. Imagine if it wasn't and that, today, we'll have cars like the Malibu Z28, Monte Carlo Z28, Cobalt Z28, Silverado Z28, Trailblazer Z28...Get the picture? Ain't it great that the Corvette Z06 isn't the Corvette SS? I vote Z28. What do you vote for? Thanks in advance for the opinions.

Z/28!!!!!!!

ooooooooh if y'all two knew what kind of Pandora’s box you just opened :D

In a way I'd like to say it's the base Camaro.. just because I'd like to see what the z28/SS gets O_O.

i voted SS......because the concept has the 6.0L in it.






we all know the Z/28 is gonna get the LS7 :p











here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ooooooooh if y'all two knew what kind of Pandora’s box you just opened :D



yeah but with all the other threads going on around here we need a good ol' fashioned Z/28 vs. SS thread to go along with them. :D

I vote Z28 since there has always been a Z28 camaro. I could be wrong here but the majority of the time there was a Z. I'm not sure exactly but I'd say less than half of the 35 productions years saw a SS model. The body is heritage so should the badge. Not saying that I wouldn't like to see a killer SS in my driveway though.:D

um, arent both SS and Z28 are gonna have a v8? :shrug:

Z28 is top dog though :cool:

Z28.. Cause I believe there shouldnt be an "intermediate" V8 (like the 5.3).


If it sells well, I think GM shoudl consider reviving the ZL1 tag for the 427 LS7 varient... it'll probably have to be mad expensive, but hey thats what you pay for ultimate performance.

I say let the SS be an apperance package like how it mostly was before, even back in the way past... Maybe 30 years from now people will forget that you could order the SS without the 427.. ;)


Goes along my theme of GM shouldn't sacrifice content for price anymore. Or styling to be "safe for the masses". The wishywashy people won't be buying this car anyways. They won't approve of a relatively large V8 muscle car no matter how many MPG it got. Just Go! Build the concept as a Z28.. and then later give a rediculous ZL1 model to shut the competition up.. ;)

In my opinion the SS models should carry a supercharger.. on the entire lineup of SS cars.. but *shrugs* what can you do?

The only way the Camaro Z28 will be top dog (bigger engine) is if the rumored? Corvette SS moves away do the Z06 can become top dog.

What sense does it makes if you go Z06 -> SS
and then the camaro is SS -> Z28?

Would it please everyone though if the Camaro SS was supercharged, less displacement, but more HP? like the Vette SS will be?

Its been said here before...

Any Chevrolet can be an SS...

Only a Camaro can be a Z/28!

Hmm.. doesn't seem right for either. But, I would guess Z/28.

An RS model would be just this with a smaller engine.

The looks of this could accomodate a Z/28, but the hood is more SS-ish based on the 4th Gen hoodscoop, IMO.

The power is more SS-ish though if based on a 4th Gen perspective.

Its been said here before...

Any Chevrolet can be an SS...

Only a Camaro can be a Z/28!


i think that needs to go back in someones sig.........

I don't get why people think the Z28 should be faster than the SS. When has the Z28 Camaro ever had more power than the SS? Am I missing something here?

I voted SS, but not because I favor it over Z/28. I think the Z/28 should have more than 400 HP, and it would be nice if they used a lower displacement, higher reving motor to do it with. It's just fantasy talk, but that's how I look at it.

Would it please everyone though if the Camaro SS was supercharged, less displacement, but more HP? like the Vette SS will be?

I've been thinking that all along. I don't think the Z should be the biggest and fastest but I think it needs to be there from the word go. By the time this thing makes it to production 400hp will be a drop in the bucket. 10 years ago 275 was the tops.

i think that needs to go back in someones sig.........

better now?!;)

better now?!;)


:thumb: much better!

I like the fact that its just "Camaro". It keeps us all guessing....

Will there be a SS?

Will there be a Z28?

Will it get a bigger motor?

Will it get a supercharger?

If it goes into production, to meet the numbers Bob Lutz is talking about, there has to be a V6 model... unless they can't get better mileage than the LS2 in 50% mode. ;)

We just posed a very similar question in Podcast 17 (http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420466).

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I think the Z28 should have a solid lifter, de-stroked 5.3 coming in at about 302 c.i. and making upwards of 400 hp.

Base= v6 z28= v8 ss= v8 with more power rs= prettier appearance

RS/SS Please!

GM DOES IT THIS WAY... we will all have wet dreams for 3 years :p


Base camaro
I6 5 speed auto or 5 speed manual
17 in wheels no posi highway gear 3.08

Camaro RS
base I6 optional 5.3 with 5 spd auto or 6 speed manual, posi with 3.45 rear gears, 20 in wheels, hockey stick strips, scooped hood, hide away headlights, different grill, upgraded interior, upgraded stereo, full gauges, optional onstar, headsup, navi

Camaro SS
Standard 6.0L with optional 5 speed auto or 6 speed manual 17 in wheels base interior, optional gear ratio 3.45 or 3.73 ......CAN BE SOLD WITH RS PACKAGE

CAMARO Z/28
standard 6.0L standard 6 speed manual stand 20 in wheels (optional chrome) upgraded interior, cowl hood, optional hood and trunk strips, lowered springs, stiffer shocks, larger front and rear sway bars, dry sump oiling, ps cooler, tranny cooler, rear end cooler, upgraded brake (Z51 vette) larger front rear rotors 6 pistons calipers, brake cooler.

CAMARO ZL1
505hp 7.0L with all Z/28 and RS equipment ZO6 wheels (optional chrome) Special strips, badges, and exterior colors. at least 15K cheaper than a ZO6 vette. Limited production.

WHO IS DA MAN ?!?!?!

Don't forget 1LE.

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i highly dount they will put the LS7 motor into a camaro unless they de-tune the motor down some like they have done in the past when the vette and F-body's shared the same engine. GM wont let the camaro "out do" the corvette. The Corvette will remain on top nd the camaro will be a close 2nd. hopefully not in price though

Base= v6 z28= v8 ss= v8 with more power rs= prettier appearance

Bingo. The more discrepency there is in the different packages, the larger the increase in cost. That equates to more sales to break even. I'm sure GM is aware of that, and because of this will limit the major mechanical changes.

I think we're all dreaming when we think there's going to be more than two powertrain choices in the new car.

NO... that is the whole idea.

The RS has the optional V8 but not all the muscle, yet has all the FOO FOO stuff....

THE base SS is a base car with 6.0L and performance goodies standard.

Combine the 2...RS/SS


As far a ZL1 option. I will think... over bet the following year they would offer a 427. they may call it 490 or 475 HP but it will be the same MOTOR!

remember LS1 corvette 345... camaro 305. Yet RIGHT!

Z/28

I know that this has been a great topic of debate so I would like to know, through this poll, how many people favor one badge over the other. I have a Z28 so naturally I would favor the Z28 badge over the SS badge, but I also favor it for one other reason: the Z28 badge was meant for only one car. Imagine if it wasn't and that, today, we'll have cars like the Malibu Z28, Monte Carlo Z28, Cobalt Z28, Silverado Z28, Trailblazer Z28...Get the picture? Ain't it great that the Corvette Z06 isn't the Corvette SS? I vote Z28. What do you vote for? Thanks in advance for the opinions.

It's a 2006 Camaro concept...... leave it at that!

Damon, know the rules of fight club? Change that to Z28 vs SS debate.

It's a 2006 Camaro concept...... leave it at that!

Damon, know the rules of fight club? Change that to Z28 vs SS debate.


but it's been so long since we had a good old knock down, drag out Z/28 vs SS debate..........



and we all know who usually wins anyway.

The concept was called a Camaro by GM. Why should it be called anything else??

If it was a Z/28 or SS they would have said that. They didn't. Just Camaro

Oh Lord, here we go again :lol:

Didn't this win All Time Greatest Debate topic?

Oh Lord, here we go again :lol:

Didn't this win All Time Greatest Debate topic?


but it's always so much fun :D



and the Z/28 is winning 62-20 :p

Z/28

I believe this could be the z-28 forget the bhp and all that crap. It's not an SS, It has nothing "special" about it that none of the other models (future models) will have. An SS Is special top of the line balls to the wall muscle and style, this concept can be tweaked some more for a true special SS look...btw i agree it should come stock with a supercharger. Me myself will not be buying this car to save on gas, i could give a Sh&t ! That being said i dont care if it get 9 miles to the gallon, If your gona do it do it big, This car should not be ruined by small minded "save gas and the environment" people, It's been long enough they've gotten their 25hp 89 mile to the gallon hybrid ****, build something REAL for REAL POWER MUSCLE CAR LOVERS !

If they call it either it should be SS for now...Why? Because I don't think the concept is worthy of the name Z/28 in it's current form...Now if I did like the car more I'd say to call it a Z28 or ZL1, but I don't think it lives up to either name, at least not yet...

^-- full of ****. What sort of gas mileage do you current get?

Trust me, price aside you would not want 8mpg. The extra hassle isn't worth it. 16mpg is the LOWEST i'd want.

Jason, help here, you could ban them or something.

Jason, help here, you could ban them or something.


hey, i voted for SS.

















we all know the Z/28 will have more HP than that. :p ;)

i think f the ls2, they should override that idea and just go with the LS7 cause that will attract alot more people with the rediculous amount of power

i think f the ls2, they should override that idea and just go with the LS7 cause that will attract alot more people with the rediculous amount of power, i think there shoiuld be a camaro and than a z28 and an ss, just give the z/ss ones their own unique characteristics

I don't get why people think the Z28 should be faster than the SS. When has the Z28 Camaro ever had more power than the SS? Am I missing something here? The Z/28 was the "race car" version of the camaro.No frills. The SS was meant to be an option on the camaro for a HP engine,A/C, automatic tranny, ect. You couldnt get things like that on the(original late 60's early 70's) racecar Z28.

how is the ss name special when every other chevy vehicle has the ss option? now z28, thats special, and is why it should be the top option.
I voted for z28 but i didnt relize it was talkin about just what the concept was, so i changed my mind, SS

I don't get why people think the Z28 should be faster than the SS. When has the Z28 Camaro ever had more power than the SS? Am I missing something here? The Z/28 was the "race car" version of the camaro.No frills. The SS was meant to be an option on the camaro for a HP engine,A/C, automatic tranny, ect. You couldnt get things like that on the(original late 60's early 70's) racecar Z28.

Just for the sake of argument, SS gets my vote. Since the Concept Camaro is retro and mimics the 1st Gen. Stay with the theme. 1st gen SS cars ruled the drag strip with big block power, not the "little revvy small block" 302, that was in the Z/28. It needed 4.10-4..56 gears just to be really competitive with the big dogs on the drag strip, where torque is king...Personally Id like to see a 400 hp LS2 in a lighter weight package with "huge by large" brakes and an M6; call it a Z28. Take a detuned LS7 making 475hp, add a A5/A6 (A4 to keep cost down) and a bunch of options; call it an SS! Charge $42K for the SS, and $24K for the Z28, and $20k for the V6 (which needs to make at least 250hp so its not obsolete before it gets to market) JMHO

SS sounds cooler. Plus only the SS Camaros get the Corvette engine.

IMO

V6 3.9L RS
V8 5.3L Z28?
V8 6.0L SS

I think the 5.3 might make a nice daily driver engine, and the 6.0 could be a good top dog.:cool:

GM DOES IT THIS WAY... we will all have wet dreams for 3 years :p


Base camaro
I6 5 speed auto or 5 speed manual
17 in wheels no posi highway gear 3.08

Camaro RS
base I6 optional 5.3 with 5 spd auto or 6 speed manual, posi with 3.45 rear gears, 20 in wheels, hockey stick strips, scooped hood, hide away headlights, different grill, upgraded interior, upgraded stereo, full gauges, optional onstar, headsup, navi

Camaro SS
Standard 6.0L with optional 5 speed auto or 6 speed manual 17 in wheels base interior, optional gear ratio 3.45 or 3.73 ......CAN BE SOLD WITH RS PACKAGE

CAMARO Z/28
standard 6.0L standard 6 speed manual stand 20 in wheels (optional chrome) upgraded interior, cowl hood, optional hood and trunk strips, lowered springs, stiffer shocks, larger front and rear sway bars, dry sump oiling, ps cooler, tranny cooler, rear end cooler, upgraded brake (Z51 vette) larger front rear rotors 6 pistons calipers, brake cooler.

CAMARO ZL1
505hp 7.0L with all Z/28 and RS equipment ZO6 wheels (optional chrome) Special strips, badges, and exterior colors. at least 15K cheaper than a ZO6 vette. Limited production.

WHO IS DA MAN ?!?!?!


I like it, except I don't think the Camaro will get an I6 for its base motor unless the engine bay is long enough to fit it, and the I6 is making more than 220hp by then.

See I duno, though I love your plan, It's great but for some reason, The SS is stuck in my mind as being the KING of the Flock per say. The z/28 was always that one in the middle with the same thing as an SS just no body package or ram-air intake. I Duno I think the SS should be on top again, sounds meaner, true chevy screwed the title SS by putting it on everything but true Chevy guys know what SS really stands for: CAMARO not that frickin cobalt BS or any other v6 wana be super sport

Type-R

Type-R

Ha umm please...We're not buying Acura's or Honda's here... GROSS

Type-R


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wait, i'll bust out the one that almost made Scott have a stroke........















ready...............................
















Camaro GT

Z28 . :metal:

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