Build it like THIS: jawzforlife's T-Top and Hatch Photoshop

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6919/camarotopsandhatch1vj.jpg

Scott, Rick and Bob - Build THIS one, and I'll buy AT LEAST one of them :)

That totally ruined the lines of the car

That totally ruined the lines of the car

Agreed, 100%. No thank you.

ummmm........errrrmmmm...........

:barf:

Sheesh...Camaro already has enough of a mullet stigma to fight....

Only thing I would dare do to the concept roofline is lose it alltogether.........

Yeah I like the hardtop/fastback design better. As much as several here are slamming retro, I want the car to get back to it's firstgen roots. Back to when the Camaro was unarguably one of the sweetest cars on the road... The original concept does that but then has even more of a sweet fastback look, it's darn near perfect IMO, screw T-tops...

I love it, personally.

jawz can you do a rear view w/ the hatch??????

PLZ PLZ!!!
:)

I'd love to see that ass w/ the hatch

Now there is some 3rd gen in it. The problem is, it doesn't belong as a whole. Get rid of the black t-top area and it might look better. I would dial back the wraparound glass too.

Not a bad photoshop idea... But I don't think it flows with the rest of the car AT ALL.

wow I'm famous now...well kind of

Hmmm. I like it. But im a redneck with a mallet. What can I say?

jawz can you do a rear view w/ the hatch??????

PLZ PLZ!!!
:)

I'd love to see that ass w/ the hatch

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8246/camarorearhatch1nb.jpg

Now there is some 3rd gen in it. The problem is, it doesn't belong as a whole. Get rid of the black t-top area and it might look better. I would dial back the wraparound glass too.

I think the wraparound hatch glass is a must to make the T-Tops look right. And I think it does work with the lines of the car - see how the angle of the door cut line is echoed in the cut line between the rear of the side glass and the B-pillar? As it is, there's a lot of 3rd gen in the mid section of the concept (from the bottom of the greenhouse on down) The wraparound hatch and T-Tops acentuate that - and the forward canted B-Pillar a-la 4th gen mirrors the cutline of the door, whereas an upright 3rd gen B-Pillar WOULD look out of place I think.




Of course, as you can tell by my handle, I'm biased - I bought the car for the T-Tops - all the rest (worldbeating performance, 29mpg on the highway, slick looks) was a nice bonus.

It makes me think of that Trans Am with the camper shell-looking hatch.

It looks 240Zish from the back.

It looks 240Zish from the back.

Excellent! That's what I'm looking for in a Camaro- except I'd really prefer 280ZXish.

Hmmm. I like it. But im a redneck with a mallet. What can I say?
Is that a threat? :confused:







:p

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't know

Dont care for t-tops, and I prefer the hard top look of the orignial.

The 2nd one looks too much like a Crossfire :o

I like it from the side though, the hatch looks nice. And it wouldn't be an F-body without T-tops!

God no, that photoshopped B-Pillar doesn't match the lines of the car at all.

Not to knock the creator's photoshop skills at all though...just don't think the design fits the car well.

Ok... I see the 3rd gen in the design now!

As for how it looks...T-tops, maybe, but the hatch has got to go. I don't think it's working with this design at ALL.

I like it. :D

It would look perfect if you cleaned it up a little. :cool:

Now that looks 100 times better. This speaks Camaro to me. The original concept speaks 99 GTO Concept to me. Sorry that is my opinion.

I think I like that a little better, not that I don't love the concept as is. I'm just gald we have a car back.

Here are a few quick tweaks

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8343/cam0033dl21kf.jpg

my post from the other thread:

PERHAPS The hatch and t-roof could be an option? im probably asking for the world there, but why couldnt it have two different versions of the roof and trunk?

I HAVE FAITH this car will get t-tops some-way-some-how, and thats one way they could pull it off.

Scott, Rick and Bob - Build THIS one, and I'll buy AT LEAST one of them :)

:eek: They must build a t-top camaro no doubt. :bow:

That totally ruined the lines of the car
i have to disagree with that. it looks fine to me, and id like to see that sort of roof availible for t-tops as an option. however i agree in the sense that i would probably order the hardtop cause i like rear quarter windows.

I like it. :D

looks like its just me and you buddy!:D

yuk

I'm getting the uneasy feeling that T-Tops are to Camaro as Pop Up Headlights are to Corvette.

I like them both and consider them an essential design cue. And I can probably get a number of loyalists on a message board to bitch and moan about their loss with me (anyone here read Corvetteforum when the C6 was on the way?) But when all is said and done, I fear that they both are lost.

I WANT TTOPS!!!, pictures ok but looks too much like 4th gen and vette.

Ummm, no thanks.

I agree that the hatch as posted doesn't quite work yet. But I think if you tweak the shape it could be pretty cool (as I said in the other thread).

a camaro without t-tops is just not very special. i'm iffy on exactly how this one looks, but owning a 3rd gen myself, it does incorporate 2 of its best features: t-tops and hatchback. the tops give it fun, and the hatchback give it function. that hatch gives the camaro some real cargo room. i can fit some bigger, longer stuff in that car than many a passenger car. it's also perfect for a some pounding subs. if they can make these things work, then that would truly be my dream car.

That totally ruined the lines of the car
:word:

You made the Camaro concept look like a 1987 Mitsu Starion:

http://www.auto-tuning-galerie.de/bilder/mitsubishi/9GU5NpQ0.jpg

No T-tops, no hatch! That is all.

You made the Camaro concept look like a 1987 Mitsu Starion:

http://www.auto-tuning-galerie.de/bilder/mitsubishi/9GU5NpQ0.jpg


Sweet! Thats fine by me. I'd really like to see a re-do of a 1989 Camaro, 84 300ZX, or 87 Starion/Conquest. Or for a 2nd gen look, maybe even throw some 77 TA SE, 81 Z28, or heck, 81 280ZX in there too.

Jawz,

Please email me the UN-photoshopped pic you put the hatch on in this thread.

The one I am looking for is the quartering view from the rear.

Thanks a million!

Jawz,

Please email me the UN-photoshopped pic you put the hatch on in this thread.

The one I am looking for is the quartering view from the rear.

Thanks a million!

sure check you box in a few

This is going to be blasphemy for this thread, but after looking at the chops, I think t-tops are going to screw up some of the fundamental lines of the car. This car is so amazing I think I can look past the lack of t-tops. Like I said, blasphemy :)

looks like its just me and you buddy!:D
I like it too.

Hey Jawz, any chance of you changing the color on the side view to bright red? That is the one color that I really want. Thanks in advance.

Here is something along those lines but no t-tops.
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/8474/cam0033dlsmall5se.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2053/cam0033dl22le.jpg

That chop while well done just looses a lot of what makes the aft greehouse of the Detroit concept look good. That big expanse of rear glass in the chop doesn't look right at all.

Surely it's possible to have a single (or two smaller) removable roof-panel(s), i.e. square holes in the roof that don't infringe on the edges of the roof. Not quite a t-top but at least better than nothing and it won't have so -ve an effect on body stiffness.

That chop while well done just looses a lot of what makes the aft greehouse of the Detroit concept look good. That big expanse of rear glass in the chop doesn't look right at all.

Surely it's possible to have a single (or two smaller) removable roof-panel(s), i.e. square holes in the roof that don't infringe on the edges of the roof. Not quite a t-top but at least better than nothing and it won't have so -ve an effect on body stiffness.

I agree with this one. One of nicest features of the concept is the greenhouse.

Here is something along those lines but no t-tops.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2053/cam0033dl22le.jpg
definattly like it more with the glass wrapping around a bit.

definattly like it more with the glass wrapping around a bit.
While I'm not opposed to the idea, I'd like to see a rear view of it. I don't think it would look nearly as good from behind.

While I'm not opposed to the idea, I'd like to see a rear view of it. I don't think it would look nearly as good from behind.

Yeah, I have my reservations about that too.

Sneaky Neil's second photo reminds me of an updated R34.

Naa, don't like the hatch. It's time the Camaro looses the TTops and goes with a Removable Top like the Corvette has, now that would be cool!!! :)

Naa, don't like the hatch. It's time the Camaro looses the TTops and goes with a Removable Top like the Corvette has, now that would be cool!!! :)

I think when everybody who wants t-tops would also want a targa top, its jsut easier to put t-tops when talking instead of t-top/targa topeverytime.

It looks really good jawz. I do think the hatch looks better on it, and the t-tops are a must as an option.

I think a removable hard top then instead of T's

damn I know I should have read alll of the way to the end someone already had the idea of removable top sorry guys

NO HATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


as already said, it RUINS the lines of the car and doesn't belong at all. Since the concept isn't a hatch though, pretty sure GM realized as much too.

I dont care for the hatch either but it should have some sort of removabel top T Tops or entire thing

Not bad. I would still take the coupe though. The hatch from the side angle looks like a monte carlo aerocoupe from the 80's.

NO!!!!!

The hatch from the side angle looks like a monte carlo aerocoupe from the 80's.

That's a good thing, yes?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/capn233/ttoprev2.jpg

Would you be as strongly opposed to something like this?

Actually, I think I finally fixed what has been bothering me from the side... No more hatch, but I think this looks better from the side than the real concept.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/capn233/shorter.jpg

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Actually, I think I finally fixed what has been bothering me from the side... No more hatch, but I think this looks better from the side than the real concept.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/capn233/shorter.jpg

\subtle

I can't really tell what you changed there?

I took a lot of length out of the door. I think the doors and greenhouse are too long on the concept, especially when viewed from the side. Admittedly, this might kill any rear room if you tried to do it on the real deal.

Original
http://www.porteighty.biz/uploads/camaro_7.jpg

Shorter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/capn233/shorter.jpg

The difference in width between the two pics is the amount I took out of the door/window.

Ahh, I see.

I prefer the longer look - it makes the car look less stocky and stubby. With the high beltline and gunslit windows chop-top look that is all the rage now, it's very easy to make the car look too stubby. Longer length helps avoid that.

Dude, thats amazing, sorry guys but I really do like that, I've seen a photoshop pic of it being a convertible also. If the drop top looks like that did, count me in, thats one mean ass lookin get the hell outa my way, CAMARO. For some reason I keep seein hints of the old stingray popped in the new body is it just me ?

For some reason I keep seein hints of the old stingray popped in the new body is it just me ?

I see it in the sharply creased fender tops - and I like that as well.

Here's a thought maybe I'm Wrong but what about a hardtop convertible like the Cadillac XLR or the Lexus SC, I know these are both two seaters but it could be possible I think. I think it would look pretty neat and classy, I love the rag top but theres something about a hardtop thats appealing and I think it would help keep the original lines of this concept.

Heh, well if nobody else agrees with me that is fine. It isn't like GM is going to ask me what I want the car to look like :)

My 91 Z28 has t-tops and if this car comes out i want t-tops on it too. I think it looks frikin awsome with t-tops:metal: