Good Bye!

I'd like to take this opportunity to say it was a nice run Stang, and I might or might not be sad to see you go but...BYE BYE FORD!!! BYE BYE MUSTANG!!!

HAHAHA I couldnt agree with you any more.:bow:

YAY! Couldnt have stated it better!

Back in the saddle again comes to mind!

-steve

Good bye challenger

I'd like to take this opportunity to say it was a nice run Stang, and I might or might not be sad to see you go but...BYE BYE FORD!!! BYE BYE MUSTANG!!!

Why??? ...This is a nice car, but there is nothing distinctive about it. People buy a Mustang because it is readly recognizible as a Mustang - to everyone.

This new Camaro is enough like every other car on the road, if you hadn't been told before hand it is a Camaro, you wouldn't know what it is.

lol yeah right......out of the Challenger GT500 and Camaro the Camaro is last on my list.....(thank god it's still in very early concept stages) and I am a GM loyalist.....

Why??? ...This is a nice car, but there is nothing distinctive about it. People buy a Mustang because it is readly recognizible as a Mustang - to everyone.

This new Camaro is enough like every other car on the road, if you hadn't been told before hand it is a Camaro, you wouldn't know what it is.
I'm no Camaro fanboy by a long shot but care to tell me what cars on the road look like that?

lol yeah right......out of the Challenger, GT500, and Camaro, the Camaro is last on my list.....(thank god it's still in very early concept stages) and I am a GM loyalist.....
x2. Except that part about being a GM loyalist. Im not brand loyal.

This new Camaro is enough like every other car on the road, if you hadn't been told before hand it is a Camaro, you wouldn't know what it is.

Only to one who has never picked up a hot rod magazine or bought any car magazine selling tires, or received schedules for race tracks. Thats because companies use the 69 to sell tires, to get you to come to their races, and magazines certainly know what it is. The people at Ebay certainly know what it is because it commands more money than any other year as it is 69 is the most sought after Camaro. If youre a Camaro fan and you dont recognize the 69 Grille and shark gills somethings wrong.

Why??? ...This is a nice car, but there is nothing distinctive about it. People buy a Mustang because it is readly recognizible as a Mustang - to everyone.

This new Camaro is enough like every other car on the road, if you hadn't been told before hand it is a Camaro, you wouldn't know what it is.
Thats why the 69 camaro is the most sought after muscle car, why it is the first musclecar to be reproduced and remanufactured FROM SCRATCH> it might also be why many people consider it to be the Pinnacle of Muscle Car design (Chip Foose anyone). For those reasons no one will know what it is.

This new Camaro is enough like every other car on the road, if you hadn't been told before hand it is a Camaro, you wouldn't know what it is.

BS! I don't know about the general public (maybe you're right there, but then again the general public is pretty stupid), but I would peg this as a Camaro from 50 yards away given a clear front 3/4 shot.

It SCREAMS Camaro to me, but then again the fourthgen is not the only thing I think of when I think Camaro unlike alot of younger Camaro guys... If fourthgen is what your minds eye thinks of as the quintisential (sp) Camaro then this wouldn't immediately leap out as a Camaro. But to me, I think primarily first and third generation with some fourthgen thrown in when I think "Camaro". Other than not having much in the way of fourthgen cues, that is exactly what this new Camaro is...

the fourthgen is not the only thing I think of when I think Camaro unlike alot of younger Camaro guys... If fourthgen is what your minds eye thinks of as the quintisential (sp) Camaro then this wouldn't immediately leap out as a Camaro.
Thats where Im coming from.

I'd like to take this opportunity to say it was a nice run Stang, and I might or might not be sad to see you go but...BYE BYE FORD!!! BYE BYE MUSTANG!!!


I wouldn't go that far, especially for a car that hasn't even been given the go-ahead yet.

Bob Lutz's blog:
"Make no mistake: We would love to build this car. I would love to have one in my garage. But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first. For now, we’ll just enjoy what we have, and find out what everybody thinks about it, and we’ll make a final decision on it at our earliest opportunity."

The Mustang will have plenty of sales either way, and you can bet that the Shelby will get a power bump if a Camaro challenger comes to the plate packing more HP.

The Mustang will have plenty of sales either way, and you can bet that the Shelby will get a power bump if a Camaro challenger comes to the plate packing more HP.
But as we always do...
we're still gonna spank them up and down the track!!!!!!!!!!! :alert:

we're still gonna spank them up and down the track!!!!!!!!!!! :alert:

The 4th Gen did that, and in the end it didn't mean much.

The Camaro owes it existance to the Mustang, and if it makes a triumphant return, that hasn't changed. I don't look for the Mustang to ever go away.

But as we always do...
we're still gonna spank them up and down the track!!!!!!!!!!! :alert:

I can understand the excitement. I can understand that the Camaro faithful haven't had much to hang their hats on.......... for a few years. However, as you are planning on spanking that GT500 up and down the track........... can you please let me know the date you are planning on doing that??? Because alot can happen, and change, in 2-3 years.

I have been seeing these types of threads all over the place, and I find them very humorous. People are showing pics of the GT500 (out in a few months), the Challenger (concept car), and the Camaro (concept car), and asking which one people like best. Maybe its just me, but that just strikes me as kinda dumb. Now, if they were showing the Challenger, Camaro, and a 2010 Mustang concept, then I could understand. There are alot of liberties that manufacturers can take on concept cars, that they can't get away with on production cars.

"If" the Challenger and Camaro come out as shown, then we should have some great choices around 2008/9. Until then, and until we know what we will have to compare to, lets just enjoy the excitement of the moment. It sure is nice to see GM actually using the Camaro name again.

It looks like a modernized '69 to me...I personally would raise the roof 1-2 inches, and I think it would look even better. Will I buy it, if and when it goes on sale? Probably. It took a few real life contacts with the 4th gen before I warmed up to it. I remember seeing the 4th gen Camaro at the LA Auto show before its intro for sale, and thinking the 4th gen 'Bird looked better. Now, after the 1st gens, its my favorite. Thng looks like an F16. As for the Mustang, it is the reason for the Camaros existance, then and hopefully now. I hope to hell to see the Camaro and the Challeger go into production. This is a new era in American Muscle, and this time around (I was a kid in the 60s-70's) I want to experience it first hand.

Only to one who has never picked up a hot rod magazine or bought any car magazine selling tires, or received schedules for race tracks. ... If youre a Camaro fan and you dont recognize the 69 Grille and shark gills somethings wrong.

That's my point ... This car says Camaro so subtly, that unless you're a "Camaro fan" it isn't recognizable as Camaro.

The Mustang is successful because it is properly branded ... people who don't know that there is a Detroit car show can recognize the Mustang as a new Mustang the first time they see it on on the street.

But this new Camaro doesn't differintiate itself from the pack .. Challenger/Crossfire/Cadillac. Joe public isn't going to know what it is unless you tell him. And if you have to tell him, his reaction is "meh".

IMO the Z/28 badge is as recognizable as the little horsie. The horse is what the non enthusiast keys on. Put a Z/28 on and it HAS to be a camaro. Once again, IMO