What about t-tops

Do you think they can fit? They would be huge wouldn't they?

I don't think they're going to look right on the car, as much as I hate to say it.


I think you're going to be looking at either a hardtop, or a drop top (down the road) as your two choices.

Gm would be nuts not to offer Targa/t-tops on a new Camaro, they bring in massive cash.

I like the targa top idea. That would look better than t-tops i would say.

I don't think a targa top is out of the question.

Soneone should photoshop that. :)

Targa would work. Glass t-tops, no.

Gotta have them.

Gotta.

No excuses.

Gotta have them.

Gotta.

No excuses.

100% agree. Targa is OK with me, too.

100% agree. Targa is OK with me, too.

I usually hate to be a "me-too"-guy, but in this case I'm happy to be one. :D

T-tops wouldn't look good on that, so targa would be sufficient for me. But with the hardtop design, targa might be quite hard to do, though... :(

TS

I used to be very much against T-tops. My '94 has them and I actually like them. That being said, I live in NW Ohio, so the number of days when I can actually take them out is quite limited. When it comes time to order a 5th gen, I won't be getting T-tops unless they are somehow part of some other package that has all the other options I want.

The same old stigma that has applied to T-tops all along is still (from my experience) true today. No matter how well engineered it's always a matter of when, not if they will leak.

Of course, I do believe they should be an option. For those that want them, I think they should have the option of getting them. They have been a staple of the Camaro for quite a while and I think that should continue.

They have been a staple of the Camaro for quite a while and I think that should continue.
Only the first ~10 years DIDN'T have them, then the last 25 DID have them;). T-tops belong on the Camaro:yes:. I'll agree that with the new design, they may look a little awkward at first, but I think they'll fit;). Just think about the mid-80's Monte Carlos ... they were a "boxier" style car, but they had T-tops and looked good :thumb:.

I'd like a Targa top.

The same old stigma that has applied to T-tops all along is still (from my experience) true today. No matter how well engineered it's always a matter of when, not if they will leak.



I owned a '90 with t-tops. Never leaked once. Not a drop. The car was in a wreck too. I had it for 11 years.

I owned an '02 SS with t-tops. It didn't leak either.

And by the way, I live in Portland, Oregon....we know rain.

I'd say that t-tops are a must. They've been a staple option since what, the mid 70s?

My 2000 SS with 50,000 doesn't leak at all.

Yea, my 94Z that had almost 90k miles on it when I sold it didn't leak a drop either.

I thought the targa on my Corvette would be the best thing since sliced bread, but to be honest, I prefer the t-tops on my Camaro. Granted the C5 & C6 targa is much less of a hassle compared to my C4 top, but it's still a bit of a hassle for me to hurl the roof off the car and get it into the hatch even after I spent the last 5 minutes unbolting it. The t-tops come off so quickly and easily, and the Camaro doesn't shake like a tunafish can over bumps like the Corvette does.

T-tops don't fit the style of this new Camaro coupe. (Nor does a sunroof IMO, for that matter.)

I can't wait to see a convertible version though. :D

Scott has mentioned on here that the percentage of Camaro buyers who selected t-tops is very high. I can't remember exactly, but I think it was about 40% or something close to that. Even the bean-counters at GM can't ignore numbers like that. They'll need to have some sort of targa or t-tops.

Sixer...try 80% of '02 Camaro buyers :D

Anyhoot, t-tops will not happen. I don't think a targa will, either...and no, this is not unfounded either. Those of you who know me know I don't say things unless I know something. Short of an 11th hr change by the engineering team, they will not happen :( Of course, if Mustang gets them, maybe GM's hand will be forced?

With that said, how about a panoramic moonroof?

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There better be a t-top/targa option. I wanted the open air drive without the convertible when looking for my current Z and t-tops work perfectly. I'll wait as long as possible before getting a 5th gen for the option before I cave in and buy one.

Nobody wants t-tops more than me. If I'm in my car, the top is off...period. (I obviosuly don't drive it in the rain :D )

Short of an 11th hr change by the engineering team, they will not happen :( Of course, if Mustang gets them, maybe GM's hand will be forced?
Ugh!?!?!:mad: Do we always have to wait until FORD does something to decide that WE should do it too?!?!? :irk: "I" know and "we" all know that T-tops were a part of the Camaro for so many years, but if the new Camaro DOESN'T get them UNTIL the Mustang DOES, then it's SURE gonna seem like COPYING to me :rolleyes:. :mad:

If that ends up happening, I think it's gonna look awfully embarrassing :shame:. Just put the T-tops in to begin with. I don't care if they don't look as nice as they did on a 4th-gen, at least we'll get something FIRST for a change?:rolleyes:

A lack of T-tops would be sacriledge.

That is the hands-down biggest thing I miss about my old '89 Formula.

Sure, the 305 TBI sucked.

Sure, it had electrical issues.

But I could take off those T-tops and go for a drive...just to DRIVE, man, and the world felt right again.

I was probably one of the 2 people that got a hardtop coupe in 2000 as opposed to t-tops. 80% of buyers select them maybe because that is all the dealers carried. I toured all the Pontiac dealers in the Houston area before finding a non t-top coupe that actually had power locks and windows.

A lack of T-tops would be sacriledge.

That is the hands-down biggest thing I miss about my old '89 Formula.
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But I could take off those T-tops and go for a drive...just to DRIVE, man, and the world felt right again.

Amen, Brother!!! :bow: :alert:

Some panoramic sunroof just won't cut it for me, and probably not for too may other t-top fans, either. :no:

Scott: We need t-tops, please! :alert: :alert: :alert:

Okay..., I guess targa would work, too, but t-tops are part of the Camaro heritage...

TS

I would most definitely miss the t-top option. Convertibles are too heavy and generally ruin the look of the car. Probably some incentive to hold onto the SS and maybe buy a ~2010 Z28. :)

I think body colored T-tops would be the way to go... i really dont care about the pieces being glass or not, as long as I can take them out.

I think T's would look fine, but only if they are body colored, which I know adds cost.

I agree a slab of black glass on the roof isn't going to look right on that car.

I converted mine to t-tops and they don't leak.... :shrug:

They are a MUST and the new Z28....

I'll probably buy one either way, but T-Tops/Targa top would make me so so so much happier. I'm just not a vert person.

I can't imagine driving around and seeing mustang drivers enjoying t-tops on nice days and me not. Hell, that's how i see when most of the traffic lights around here are going to change! Gotta be able to see up!

sunroofs are not anywhere near the same.

Perhaps they could offer T-Tops, on say the SS, but go for a fixed roof on the Z28. Do it like the corvette, nobody seems to complain about that

I don't know if I'll be in the market for one...but no T-top option would be a HUGE turnoff for me. Like even to the point of not purchasing one.

Thats probably my favorite feature of the F-body.

I think this is a little funny, alot of the same folks who would insist on t-tops also complain about the annoyances, the creaks and rattles associated with them and the structural integrity compromises found in most t-top cars. The folks I'm talking about are NOT the folks posting here so don't get the wrong idea, I'm talking about John-Q-Public.

I enjoyed the t-tops on my 1st Camaro years ago, but they seemed to be a hassle frankly. That is one of the reasons I opted for a convertable!

As for the 5th gen ideas, I agree with Jason on the moon-roof (panoramic or otherwise) for a number of reasons.

1. The reliability- they have MOST of them down to an art now and they don't fly off on the hwy (had heard stories, but happened to my bro-in-law).
2. Flexability- open, shut see-thru, vent ect. If it starts raining on you, no pulling over to pop in the tops (provided you didn't need the trunk space and actually brought them with you). No need to purchase the shades to block the sun on those 100+ degree days.
3. Improved structural integrity- safer (even if only perceived) and fewer flexes leading to the creaks and rattles. Would also (I would think) allow for higher HP/TQ engine options in the future with a more rigid chassis :D .
4. More "refined"- One of the intangables, but will make the car marketable/attractive to a larger audience. Folks who are still stuck with the old negative images of the Camaro would be pleasantly surprised and we have the potential of bringing more buyers into the community!

While I have been a die-hard F-body freak since I was old enough to even pretend to drive, I don't see how a refinement on a great concept would do anything but improve the base. The T-tops had become a main-stay of the f-bodies, but the evolution of a good thing means more customers and more f-body owners!

As for a targa, that would be excellent and would be my preference WAY over t-tops! It seems like most of the draw-backs associated with t-tops would also apply to a targa though.

Given the CHOICE between the three (targa, t-top or moon-roof), I'd order the moon-roof personally (assuming a convertable was not offered or too pricy). As long as it is of descent size- I don't want a freaking port-hole, panoramic=sale!

Allen

Now I know why it is so freaking hard to find a hardtop 4th gen.

Personally, I hate t-tops/targa/vert. They make the car heavier and reduce structural rigidity. I know they (t-tops) are a part of the Camaro heritage, but GM, please make a hartop M6 in Hugger orange with White Stripes and send put my name on it.

Oh, I am a noob and this is my first post, so hey everyone.

T-tops are like pop up headlights on the C6.....everybody will bitch about their absence but in a year or two you won't hear a peep about it anymore.

Personally I don't care, as I don't ever go anywhere in my car that I wouldn't just put them right back in when I got there. So they rarely ever come off. I'd rather have a hardtop car. I agree a Moonroof would be nice but I've never seen those as something that belongs on a "performance" car.

A lack of t-tops on the new Camaro would realistically force me to consider a used Corvette instead of a new Camaro. I use my t-tops and my targa way too often and enjoy the experience way too much for me to consider buying a muscle car that doesn't offer it. I'm not sure that it would be a deal breaker, but it certainly could be.

I think this is a little funny, alot of the same folks who would insist on t-tops also complain about the annoyances, the creaks and rattles associated with them and the structural integrity compromises found in most t-top cars. The folks I'm talking about are NOT the folks posting here so don't get the wrong idea, I'm talking about John-Q-Public.

I enjoyed the t-tops on my 1st Camaro years ago, but they seemed to be a hassle frankly. That is one of the reasons I opted for a convertable!

As for the 5th gen ideas, I agree with Jason on the moon-roof (panoramic or otherwise) for a number of reasons.

1. The reliability- they have MOST of them down to an art now and they don't fly off on the hwy (had heard stories, but happened to my bro-in-law).
2. Flexability- open, shut see-thru, vent ect. If it starts raining on you, no pulling over to pop in the tops (provided you didn't need the trunk space and actually brought them with you). No need to purchase the shades to block the sun on those 100+ degree days.
3. Improved structural integrity- safer (even if only perceived) and fewer flexes leading to the creaks and rattles. Would also (I would think) allow for higher HP/TQ engine options in the future with a more rigid chassis :D .
4. More "refined"- One of the intangables, but will make the car marketable/attractive to a larger audience. Folks who are still stuck with the old negative images of the Camaro would be pleasantly surprised and we have the potential of bringing more buyers into the community!

While I have been a die-hard F-body freak since I was old enough to even pretend to drive, I don't see how a refinement on a great concept would do anything but improve the base. The T-tops had become a main-stay of the f-bodies, but the evolution of a good thing means more customers and more f-body owners!

As for a targa, that would be excellent and would be my preference WAY over t-tops! It seems like most of the draw-backs associated with t-tops would also apply to a targa though.

Given the CHOICE between the three (targa, t-top or moon-roof), I'd order the moon-roof personally (assuming a convertable was not offered or too pricy). As long as it is of descent size- I don't want a freaking port-hole, panoramic=sale!

Allen


My t-tops leak anytime it rains hard, or I go through a Car wash, but Holding the towel againt them is worth the enjoyment they give.

Edit: I always said the only reasons I bought my car(over a mustang) were because of T-tops, 6 speed and good looks.

Sixer...try 80% of '02 Camaro buyers :D

Anyhoot, t-tops will not happen. I don't think a targa will, either...and no, this is not unfounded either. Those of you who know me know I don't say things unless I know something. Short of an 11th hr change by the engineering team, they will not happen :( Of course, if Mustang gets them, maybe GM's hand will be forced?

With that said, how about a panoramic moonroof?

T-tops were great and I had them on my 94 z28:bow: I took them off every warm sunny day in Southern California I could and that was alot of days :D

I do think that the reason the $900 t-option was so popular was because there was no sunroof option and many dealers ordered most Camaros with the t-tops for the extra mark-up $$$. While I would pick the t-top over the sunroof any day, but Im sure many out there would have been just as happy with a less expensive $500 sunroof/moonroof.

t-tops will look stupid on this car.

I have T-tops on my 99 after owning a Convertible 89 for eight years and the T-tops just don't do it for me. I like them OK but when I buy my new one it will be convertible or hard top.

edit: I do think, however, GM should offer a removable roof of some sort as so many people seem to enjoy them. I have had a lot of mustang drivers tell me they like my T-tops.