IZ28
12-08-2005, 12:41 AM
I think it's a little too much. But I know it's exactly what some people want. Multiple choice is on. Who voted is on.
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Are Retro Musclecars from all of the companies Cool or not?IZ28 12-08-2005, 12:41 AM I think it's a little too much. But I know it's exactly what some people want. Multiple choice is on. Who voted is on. stangitr 12-08-2005, 12:48 AM most of them look cool, and they always sell pretty well. what good is an awesome car if it doesn't sell very well and is discontinued after the first generation? some sacrifices have to be made to appeal to the general public. fact is, most people like retro-inspired designs. the people who don't are in a tiny minority. Skull Leader 12-08-2005, 12:50 AM In between. Like retro Air Jordans. They brought them out because they were loved so much in the first place. So I can dig that retro aspect as far as cars are concerned. Yet, I don't want to see old, tired ideas. The new Thnderbird sucked ass, they bulky, ugly Charger is one heap of shyte, and the new Mustang is way way too much like the 60 version. RussStang 12-08-2005, 01:49 AM I think the new Camaro is pretty good in design, but I myself am not a huge retro nut. I would prefer to see companies keep moving forward. camarorider 12-08-2005, 02:18 AM I really didnt care for the whole retro idea in the first place, I wish they never would've started it. Either way having a camaro is better than no camaro IZ28 12-08-2005, 02:33 AM Definetly true. It's just lousy that Chevy had to do it after F*rd, then Dodge will too. 91Z-28 12-08-2005, 02:36 AM Definetly true. It's just lousy that Chevy had to do it after F*rd, then Dodge will too. Damn right. Even if the new Camaro beats the living **** out of the Mustang in every way, we'll always have the "copycat" image. IZ28 12-08-2005, 02:46 AM That will be the first thing the M*stang guys will say. I'll bet all the reports of the car on TV and in magazines will be sure to mention that if the car stays retro. Same for the Challenger. Not cool. 91Z-28 12-08-2005, 02:47 AM That is also the reason I was hoping it wouldn't be retro. If you're not the first to do it, don't do it. stangitr 12-08-2005, 02:48 AM Definetly true. It's just lousy that Chevy had to do it after F*rd, then Dodge will too. How can a retro design of one company of one of their past cars "copy" a retro design of another company? That's not really logically possible. You copy your own design, that's the point. And if you think Ford started the whole idea of designing cars with retro design cues, you're wrong. Corvettes have had retro design cues since the C2. Chrysler had the Prowler and PT Cruiser, and even Viper. stangitr 12-08-2005, 02:59 AM How is this new Camaro concept blatantly retro? The ONLY retro part of it is the front, and that's just generally retro inspired. The rear especially looks absolutely nothing like any other Camaro. IZ28 12-08-2005, 03:02 AM This was supposed to be above your post, deleted it instead of editing by mistake. First, we're talking about musclecars here, not retro cars in general. Second, you're confusing cars with cues (which all cars from a line usually have somehow) with full-out blatant retro. The object is the F*rd did it first with their car. Sure the Camaro and M*stang are their own design/formula and it's cool to come out with competitors the way the Camaro originally did, but they didn't have to go the same exact way this time. IZ28 12-08-2005, 03:05 AM You can't see that the Camaro is full-out retro? The front is, the hood is, the fenders are, the roof, the back window, the sides, the quarters, the scoops near the rear wheel which I don't like much, the rear taillights are almost 68 RS inspired, the interior, the entire car is basically 1st Gen retro. stangitr 12-08-2005, 03:09 AM no i don't see how it's blatantly retro http://www.cricketfood.com/images/ext1.jpg http://www.camaroz28.com/2009.jpg i don't see a single line that is the same, or even close. i mean, you may as well say it's a ripoff of an old challenger http://members.chello.nl/~f.jansen1/images/groot/Hemi%20Challenger.jpg stangitr 12-08-2005, 03:13 AM omg it looks like an old mustang too. is it really the new mustang?!?!?! http://www.graphic-express.com/images2/68%20mus1.jpg IZ28 12-08-2005, 03:13 AM Now go take a picture of a 68, the lines are close enough. They don't have to be exact, they are inspired by them. Diognes56 12-08-2005, 03:32 AM I like the "Camaro" (I haven't seen anything official yet) photos :) . It seems like a good blend to me, much better IMO than the Mustang and the recented Challenger pics (and I like both of those as well, they are just more retro). I also think some of you are overly worried about "where do they go from here?" First, be happy if they put it back into production in the first place. Second, there is always somewhere else left to go with the design, after all there was another design after the '69 there will be a design after this one. IMO "heritage" or "retro" does not eleminate the ability to further the design, but instead reaffirms the identity of the car that it may have strayed from over the course of it's life. Just my thought on it. David IZ28 12-08-2005, 03:39 AM Where they go from there is a good question. Maybe do a retro car for every Gen LOL. SNEAKY NEIL 12-08-2005, 08:00 AM I have said it many times. It looks very rediculus to have a retro muscle car from each of the big three. It make it seem like the Big 3 can't compete unless they try to rely on the popularity of the cars past and the past of the automaker. Retro is a fad and fads never last and designs that are fads do not stand the test of time. SNEAKY NEIL 12-08-2005, 08:08 AM no i don't see how it's blatantly retro http://www.cricketfood.com/images/ext1.jpg http://www.camaroz28.com/2009.jpg i don't see a single line that is the same, or even close. i mean, you may as well say it's a ripoff of an old challenger I don't think you understand what "retro" is. It does not mean that the design will be exact. Retro design (or retro-modern design) is taking a full design from the past and modernizing it or adding modern design cues to it. That is exactly what the "new" Camaro is, as is the Mustang, T-Bird, GT, and so on. There will be a few new design cues but the bulk of the design is taken from the past. It seems to be as plain as day. | ||