5gen Camaro Concept!

I designed two camaro's for a GMI dedsign contest:
http://www.drawit.co.nz/Images/Gss-4Bgreen.JPG
http://www.drawit.co.nz/Images/ENTRY%20No2red.JPG

IF you want to see more concepts from the contest...
cars number 33 and 30 are mine
in "VOTING THREAD 1/3: Chopped entries"
vote if your a member...
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52


>>> PLEASE NOTE:

"chopped" means its based on another car using Photoshop!
yes I used the PONTIAC GTO concept for a base (for green one) and turned it into a CAMARO concept, a GOOD one!
i started with it but now its totally different, larger wheels, different height&length and wheel base and hood and front fenders and the wheels have been mod too, and lots of other changes you'll notice...

Busted

lolerpops:D

http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/07/01/vow2_415x241.jpg

Busted

lolerpops:D

http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/07/01/vow2_415x241.jpg


"chopped" means its based on another car!
yes I used the GTO concept for a base and turned it into a CAMARO concept, a GOOD one!
i started with it but now its totally different, larger wheels, different height and wheel base and hood and front fenders and the wheels have been mod too

PS- how do I attach images to a post like you did??

Chris Pauwel's is the only one I saw anywhere in the contests that was even remotely something plausible....

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x19.jpg

I sure hope that's not it, that front end is hideous.

I sure hope that's not it, that front end is hideous.
read the thread from the top bro...

Chris Pauwel's is the only one I saw anywhere in the contests that was even remotely something plausible....

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x19.jpg
Too economy looking.

And Chris' is supposed to be the most accurate also.

Could be the mustang guy in me, but I like Chris Pauwel's 5th gen visionl, I dont see anything economy about it, I'd consider buying an F-body like this,

400/400 LS motor with an M6, 17 or 18" wheels and I'd prefer an SRA, but the vibe I seem to get is that the next f-body will have IRS not just for driving dynamics, but also packaging reasons.

I have to say, I don't like Chris' version at all. No offense to him, just not seeing Camaro in it.
I do sort of like the red pic in the 1st post. Shrink the body a little more on the nose (make it more aerodynamic maybe?) and it'd look even better.

Chris Pauwel's is the only one I saw anywhere in the contests that was even remotely something plausible....

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x19.jpg

You know something?

I actually like that one! :bow:

You know something?

I actually like that one! :bow:


for some strange reason, this scares me........

I also like it a lot!!! Very clean, very modern. I dont like the front end, touch retro. Make the grill smaller much like onth enew Chevy's and add some more aggressiveness to the body work, but really, its a very clean design. Great work.

what are your thoughts on my GREEN one in first post??
anyone?

The Camaro must have a hood cowl and not scoops... is my understanding.

for some strange reason, this scares me........

Well........ I was in the hospital last week.

;) Prepare to be assimilated........Resistence is futile!

what are your thoughts on my GREEN one in first post??
anyone?

I like the green one better....the hood is lower than the red one...Isn't too retro, but still says Camaro.

Regarding the true 5th gen that is coming up, I don't know what to think anymore. The main reason I started coming to these boards in the first place was to find info on a possible 5th gen. Now I've become addicted to this site and GMI and C&G. It has gotten to the point that I am looking for the 5th gen so I can get some closure, rather than looking for the 5th gen as a pure enthusiast.

I like the green one better....the hood is lower than the red one...Isn't too retro, but still says Camaro.

Regarding the true 5th gen that is coming up, I don't know what to think anymore. The main reason I started coming to these boards in the first place was to find info on a possible 5th gen. Now I've become addicted to this site and GMI and C&G. It has gotten to the point that I am looking for the 5th gen so I can get some closure, rather than looking for the 5th gen as a pure enthusiast.


that is exactly my story!! thats why I entered the GMI contest so that maybe someone in GM may see it!
I can't find any solid info anywhere!! no spy shots, nothing!
have you submitted votes in the GMI contest?
got any good gen5 links for me to check out that I may not have seen?

what are your thoughts on my GREEN one in first post??
anyone?
It looks too much like a Pontiac imo.

Crazy, but I also like Chris's version. :p

;) Prepare to be assimilated........Resistence is futile!


i think you should make this part of your sig Guy....:p

It looks too much like a Pontiac imo.

Crazy, but I also like Chris's version. :p


I am going to make a FIREBIRD version, it will be very different

I like Chris's the best

u guys should really check out the other concepts i thought they were really interesting. i personally like chris's design the most for the drawn ones, and #28 in the chopped ones.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/z25.jpg

My favorite...one of the few based off the SS concept that I can actually say I like!

love number 28 on the chopped, chris's is pretty damn awesome too i could see myself in one of those.

You know something?

I actually like that one! :bow:

You must be a closet Mustang guy. Chris's design reminds me of a Fox Body stance. Wish I could find that car and driver concept to compare it to.

EDIT...Here's a better example
http://perfauto.tripod.com/images/79cobra.jpg



I like this one....Hahahahah!! :p Couldn't help myself....

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:FqAgFZdSICwJ:http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/519/19211110309phr-5camaro05_z-med.jpg

I thought a few tweeks might help (sorry Chris)

http://www.hardenmotorsports.com/images/f5.bmp

Can't really say that any of them stir my soul.

what are your thoughts on my GREEN one in first post??
anyone?

When I look at the green one, for some reason I say "Firebird", I think its the driving lights??

Can't really say that any of them stir my soul. There are a few cars out there that drip with concentrated testosterone that I like, but I much prefer something thats all about the business end of things, not to flashy, kinda sedate, but when there is work to be done, it doesn't BS around, thats what I see in Chris's design.

Chris Pauwel's is the only one I saw anywhere in the contests that was even remotely something plausible....

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x19.jpg

It looks clean in a Mustang kind of way. Won't be mistaken for anything but a Mustang competitor.

Btw, I do like the above design but I'm not sure if I like it as much as Kris Horton's. Btw, it should have a cowl... lose the scoop. ;)

this one is still my fave, by far, even though My favorite Martian said it wasn't it.........
http://www.carsbykris.com/gallery/rawimages/PHRNewCamaro1.jpg

The front end of Chris's just, to me, seems too neutral, like someone's trying to say the hi-po cars won't differe much if any in appearance from the base car, so this look has to cover all all bases.

I think it needs a more agressive face or a chin spoiler, or something else that just isn't coming off top of my head.

I like this better than the blatantly retro cop-outs that have been thrown around here tho....

I like Chris's more upright stance, like to see it as a 3-d tho.
Don't like the SS based one's front rolled fenders, and front end....looks too Vette-ish

This is great! We're including img tags now? Cool. Some nice concepts in here.

Dan

I like this one...

http://www.carsbykris.com/5thgenwithcolor.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg

I like this one, looks MEAN. It needs to be massaged a little though. Imagine those "angel eyes" as Daytime Running Lights! That would be cool. Or maybe if you can change them to light up orange.

http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg

I like this one, looks MEAN. It needs to be massaged a little though. Imagine those "angel eyes" as Daytime Running Lights! That would be cool. Or maybe if you can change them to light up orange.

I too am digging this one. A little less carttonish and I'd say shark is on to something.

OMG!!! Now that does look good! It could possibly be my new favourite. :D

I liked that one too, the front looks awsome! , but the rear was a total washout. And I'd liked to have seen just a little more side-skirt buldge, like an inclusive ground effect.

Shark's front end is the best modern-ized 1st gen face I've seen yet, but....it's still not original enough IMO. For me, it just doesn't look like it belongs in 2009 and beyond.

http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-BK-ATOMICSHARK.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg

I like this one......:eek:

*edit*....sorry, it seems I was a little late, but it's still kick ass!!

I, too, like the black one.

I like this one. Only gripe is that it needs a more upright windshield and a nice hard top, and maybe have the grill a lilt bit taller, or rather extend the bottom of it down some :D

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x23.jpg

I've never seen shark's before, HOT

I like how the lights are partially covered, giving it mean "eyebrows"

I like the rear even, except the pipes need to be tucked in a little better

a little massage of that one and it would be sex on wheels

I like the rake to the windshield in that concept. Probably wouldn't see something like that in production anymore though, especially not in a convertible.

this one is still my fave, by far, even though My favorite Martian said it wasn't it.........
http://www.carsbykris.com/gallery/rawimages/PHRNewCamaro1.jpg

I really love that one.. :bow:

Nobody liked his Camaro concept, but I for one liked his Vette!

http://www.creatingthelie.com/auto_gallery/gm/stingray_rear.htm

I really love that one.. :bow:

The only thing I don't like about this one are the protruding creases on the sides just behind the front and rear fenders. It doesn't seem to fit. They look like body molding stick-ons and take away from the rest of the vehicle.

The only thing I don't like about this one are the protruding creases on the sides just behind the front and rear fenders. It doesn't seem to fit. They look like body molding stick-ons and take away from the rest of the vehicle.

Looking at it again, I know what it is that I don't like. The lines do not fit for two reasons.

(1) The lines are not parallel with the side lines in the body that run midway through the door panels. The fender lines seem to angle down.

(2) The fender lines to do not blend with the curves of the fenders above them. Both the front and rear fenders are curvy, yet the lines are straight...its like they were put in there as an after thought.

Looking at it again, I know what it is that I don't like. The lines do not fit for two reasons.

(1) The lines are not parallel with the side lines in the body that run midway through the door panels. The fender lines seem to angle down.

(2) The fender lines to do not blend with the curves of the fenders above them. Both the front and rear fenders are curvy, yet the lines are straight...its like they were put in there as an after thought.


that is the one thing that i would remove. the car is drop dead gorgeous, but it would definetley suit the body lines better without the 69 Camaro ridges coming off the wheel openings.

I like this one. Only gripe is that it needs a more upright windshield and a nice hard top, and maybe have the grill a lilt bit taller, or rather extend the bottom of it down some :D

http://www.sub500.com/gm/c/x23.jpg

With some more 69 in the front end, that car would look HOT

See the rear, looks too OPEL-ish...needs to lose the 4-round tail lights...makes me shivver every time I see them...ooooohhhh...(in a bad way.)
Needs a little more rear spoiler too, Camaro trademark, at least optional.

what are your thoughts on my GREEN one in first post??
anyone?

I like the front end on the red one. :D

Can't really say that any of them stir my soul.


I would have to agree, about the only thing all of these sketchs have done to me is making me want to vomit.

http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg

I like this one, looks MEAN. It needs to be massaged a little though. Imagine those "angel eyes" as Daytime Running Lights! That would be cool. Or maybe if you can change them to light up orange.


this one is BAD ASS :bow:

Atomic Shark's is hot looking, but its too retro, imo. Chris's is probably much closer to reality. Remember the nose needs to fit the new Chevy styling cues used by other cars (nee: Cobalt, Malibu, Impala), while still having a Camaroesque vibe to it.

Besides, if I wanted a new '69 Camaro, there are alternatives. :p

Atomic Shark's is hot looking, but its too retro, imo. Chris's is probably much closer to reality. Remember the nose needs to fit the new Chevy styling cues used by other cars (nee: Cobalt, Malibu, Impala), while still having a Camaroesque vibe to it.

Besides, if I wanted a new '69 Camaro, there are alternatives. :p
If you ask me, I'd hate to see the new Camaro share any traits with the other cars in the lineup. IMO, it should be Vette-like. Just make it its own car, no need to copy "traits".

An observation about 'traits':

I don't know if it's coinsidental or planned on Chevy's/GM's part, but all the Chevy's coupes have quad tail lamps or dominant reflectors (Cobalt, MC, 'Vette), the sedans do not anymore ('06 Impala).

Could this be a new signiture detail like the red bowtie and chrome spear were?

I like Atomicshark's car except for the tail. Make an adjustment there, and Chevy can have my money.

Atomic Shark's is hot looking, but its too retro, imo. Chris's is probably much closer to reality. Remember the nose needs to fit the new Chevy styling cues used by other cars (nee: Cobalt, Malibu, Impala), while still having a Camaroesque vibe to it.


i hate to use this example but the mustang doesn't share any cues with the other cars in the ford line up. shark's concept does have a cobalt like rear which im not a big fan of. the camaro needs to have its own features and maybe share something like the lights or something minor.

i hate to use this example but the mustang doesn't share any cues with the other cars in the ford line up. shark's concept does have a cobalt like rear which im not a big fine of. the camaro needs to have its own features and maybe share something like the lights or something minor.
The difference is while Mustang is Ford's halo car, Camaro isn't Chevy's. (The Corvette is.) I'm not saying it'll look like a Bigger Cobalt with RWD, it'll still look like a Camaro; it'll just follow more in line with ever other Chevy coupe with a bowtie. :D

I like Atomicshark's car except for the tail. Make an adjustment there, and Chevy can have my money.i love the back (hatchback!)... i just don't care for the front.

http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-BK-ATOMICSHARK.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg

I like this one......:eek:

*edit*....sorry, it seems I was a little late, but it's still kick ass!!

DAMN
THIS IS NOW MY MOST FAVOURITE 5TH GEN CONCEPT EVER!!!

PERIOD! :eek:

:bow:

If the 5th gen looks anything like Shark's concept. Where do I sign!!!!

I'm really diggin' Sharks concept. The thing looks pi$$ed off....as it should for being put on this 'hiatus'.


Colin

I'm really diggin' Sharks concept. The thing looks pi$$ed off....as it should for being put on this 'hiatus'.


Colin

ROFL

The only thing I will change is the rear (I prefer the 2nd gen camaro style rear lights) and the front fog lights (they're too big!).

[QUOTE= The thing looks pi$$ed off....as it should for being put on this 'hiatus'.


Colin[/QUOTE]


Heeheehee!

That's a good one!

If you ask me, I'd hate to see the new Camaro share any traits with the other cars in the lineup. IMO, it should be Vette-like. Just make it its own car, no need to copy "traits".


A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that.........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST be recognized as a Camaro from a quarter mile.......period.

A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that.........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST be recognized as a Camaro from a quarter mile.......period.

Preach it Daddy-O....:bow:

A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that.........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST be recognized as a Camaro from a quarter mile.......period.A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST NOT rip it self off.....it should look like a familiar friend NOT a long lost twin.:p

filmiler(sp)

Perhaps the word you are looking for is familiar?

Perhaps the word you are looking for is familiar?
thank you.:cool:

This one I saw at GMI. It's got that chunky 300C look... although its only a drawing and not visually ideal for forming a realistic opinion... but I like it just the same. :D

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/scotch4/CAMAROSS.jpg

Well, you would definetly notice that coming from a 1/4 mile away.

I just hope to see the Camaro have some sharper lines, perhaps like the 4th gen, although the style will obviously be different. I absolutely hate the boxiness of the new Mustang, especially the front end.

A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST NOT rip it self off.....it should look like a familiar friend NOT a long lost twin.:p


:bow: Somebody gets it! :thumb:

If it is anything like sharks front end design give me TWO!!! That is just HOT!:bow:

At this point I am praying that the 5th gen does not follow en route the Mustang and Challenger. The shark concept looks great, but the more and more I think about it the more I think we are going to see a 69 knock off.

A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST NOT rip it self off.....it should look like a familiar friend NOT a long lost twin.:p

That is signature material. :bow:

yes i made it into somebody's sig!:cool:

A Camaro MUST........let me repeat that........MUST....let me repeat it yet again..........MUST NOT rip it self off.....it should look like a familiar friend NOT a long lost twin.:p

This man is thinking correctly...now can GM pull off a car that does exactly that? That's a hard line to walk, and I'm sure we'll all have different opinions what what that line is.

I think that I have some flexibility regarding certain specific styling cues.

But what MUST be right on the money for me is it's size, stance and proportions. If you don't get those (ALL OF THOSE) right...no styling doo-dads will save it.

I think that I have some flexibility regarding certain specific styling cues.

But what MUST be right on the money for me is it's size, stance and proportions. If you don't get those (ALL OF THOSE) right...no styling doo-dads will save it.



and the car ends up in Mustang land looking proportionally out of shape in comparison to the design it's based off........

or else, all you end up with is a full scale Muscle Machine.

Ah heck...here's another version to critique...McBride's latest.

http://www.indycamaro.com/McBride.jpg

Ah heck...here's another version to critique...McBride's latest.

http://image52.webshots.com/52/5/71/34/509257134aWLNfv_ph.jpg


pics not showin Doug.

At this point I am praying that the 5th gen does not follow en route the Mustang and Challenger. The shark concept looks great, but the more and more I think about it the more I think we are going to see a 69 knock off.

bet you it will to some degree so it can fit in

pics not showin Doug.

Fixed it :D

Fixed it :D


:D and i'm glad you did, that's pretty sharp looking.

Ah heck...here's another version to critique

That looks ALOT like one of the versions I did of Sharp's concept.

That looks ALOT like one of the versions I did of Sharp's concept.

Honestly, most of the recent conceptual sketches here lately follow a similar theme....:cool:

Is it possible to do a front end that does NOT look like it's grafted from a '69? :irk:

That looks like a long lost friend and is instantly recognizable as a Camaro, like fbodfather said. See, we can all get what we want! And it also happens to be bada@#!.....I love it, and I can't wait to see what we get.

Is it possible to do a front end that does NOT look like it's grafted from a '69? :irk:

Wouldn't mind seeing that myself....

Is it possible to do a front end that does NOT look like it's grafted from a '69? :irk:

How do you like this one?

This is plumcrazy's work over at C&G. If you see this Plum, I hope you don't mind I posted these here, just seemed like a good place. With all due respect:


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/Zsquared.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/CamaroJ.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/CamaroK.jpg

He's a great artist, but too much of the same themes in his sketches....all are loooong and swoopy.

How do you like this one?

This is plumcrazy's work over at C&G. If you see this Plum, I hope you don't mind I posted these here, just seemed like a good place. With all due respect:


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/Zsquared.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/CamaroJ.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/CamaroK.jpg

OK, now we're communicating!:thumb:

- #3: looks a little to 'Vette-ish' to me, but that's the proportions in the way it's drawn (long hood and door to rear wheel spacing looks like a 2 seater), I like the squinty headlights, definately a well timed change from the current tall and wide trend.

- #2: I like the overall proportions and stacked headlights, not crazy about the 'Avalanche-style' grill,

- #1: This one is my favortite from an overall stance and profile standpoint. I appreciate trying to modernize a 2nd gen nose, but I think it makes the front too round or bubble-ish.

Now, if you took #1, moved that grill down on the ground, added a shovel like chin spoiler (think '95-'97 Z24) with the chin tucked in, added #2's or #3's headlights (and maybe made them single projectors so they're not as wide and really define the corners of the car), and wow(!).....you're really onto something.

Those are a breath of fresh air. :yes: (God I wish I had time to still doodle cars....)

#1 please!

How do you like this one?

This is plumcrazy's work over at C&G. If you see this Plum, I hope you don't mind I posted these here, just seemed like a good place. With all due respect:


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/Zsquared.jpg



The profile on this one is right on!! The 2nd-gen nose could be grafted on a little better but that car looks throughly modern and familiar. The other two crossed over into exotic land. Can you say Fisker?

#1=:bow: