Vogtland Lowering Spring Special!

We have made a special purchase of vogtland lowering springs and are prepared to extend the savings to our customers. Now until November 30th we are going to run a special on these springs for $184.50. This is a delivered price using normal ground shipping to the continental 48 states. To order please visit the site at www.hotpart.com and click on the camaro or special tab to take you the vogtland spring section.

J&M Products
www.hotpart.com
805-239-1558 phone
805-239-1339 fax
4005 Traffic Way
Atascadero CA 93422
sales@hotpart.com

Interesting...got more info? :cool:

Vogtland is the only spring which is made using the exclusive to Vogtland spring alloy called VVS. This is the same material used in all the race springs they manufacture for Nascar and Indy car series. By using the VVS alloy Vogtland is able to manufacture a superior spring which is up to 30% lighter than other springs of the same spring rates. This will reduce your unsprung weight and give you better handling, response, and road feel. These springs also come with a lifetime no sag warranty. If you have anymore questions please do not hesitate to ask. My direct email is brian@hotpart.com if you would like to speak with me directly about anything.

J&M Products
Brian Croutcher
www.hotpart.com
805-239-1558 phone
805-239-1339 fax
4005 Traffic Way
Atascadero CA 93422
sales@hotpart.com

Sounds TOO GOOD and a little hokie. If this material is used in NASCAR and Indy Car I would think this would be ALOT more expensive. Plus where did you gather your data saying these are better than the rest of the manufacturers out there. VERY SCEPTICAL HERE.

Sounds TOO GOOD and a little hokie. If this material is used in NASCAR and Indy Car I would think this would be ALOT more expensive.

I am always interested in checking out new springs, if nothing else just to learn about them. I checked out their web site...
http://cms.vogtland.com/ITmaxxDeluxe/bin/ITmaxxDeluxeServer.dll?Article?ID=263&Session=2-7PhahufA-1-170522200527110315&Via=Nav

If that doesn't work, go to http://www.vogtland.com/, click on English (unless you speak German) and then click on "Motorsports". The also click on "NASCAR links" under the Motorsports on that page.

Plus where did you gather your data saying these are better than the rest of the manufacturers out there. VERY SCEPTICAL HERE.

Here's a start...
30% lighter than other springs of the same spring rates. This will reduce your unsprung weight and give you better handling, response, and road feel. These springs also come with a lifetime no sag warranty.

I am pretty interested in this myself. It seems Vogtland has been making springs for a long time, just not for our cars.

But at this price thats what I mean by being very hokie. Just seems to be very strange.

But at this price thats what I mean by being very hokie. Just seems to be very strange.

It's been a while since I priced springs...what do you think a spring should be?

Vogtland is a company that has been manufacturing springs in the European market place since 1908 in Hohenlimburg Germany. They have since taken the European market and they are very popular in the import market place. In 2001 they decided to open Vogtland North America which is focusing on improving the Domestic market share. The main focus for Vogtland is value. They have a very strict quality control process they go through to ensure a very high quality spring. They only cold form the springs using the VVS alloy. Once they are formed they go through tempering, shotpeening and a triple preset which allows them to offer the lifetime no sag warranty. They are finally phosphate treated and powder coated for the durable finish. I hope this helps answer a few questions about Vogtland and the process they use for every spring they produce.

On a more technical side with spring weights, Eibach has a shipping weight of 44 lbs according to the Eibach catalog which I cannot verify by weighing a spring set anymore as we no longer carry Eibach. Eibach spring rates are also a variable rate of 337-600 in the front and 94-160 in the rear. Vogtland has weight of 8.6 pounds per spring in the front with a working spring rate of 440-542, and the rear spring weighs in at 7.5 pounds each with a working spring rate of 183-228. As you can see the Vogtland spring weighs in at a little less than 33 pounds per set with slightly less spring rate in the front and slightly higher rate in the rear to help reduce understeer or increase oversteer depending on how you prefer to look at it.

The bottom line is we discontinued the other spring companies for two main reasons.
1. Reduce the unsprung weight. Reducing unsprung weight will give you better handling, response, road feel, and better ride quality.
2. Quality, with the 15+ years we have been doing this we have seen to many of the other major springs sag. We have never seen a Vogtland spring sag.

J&M Products
Brian Croutcher
www.hotpart.com
805-239-1558 phone
805-239-1339 fax
4005 Traffic Way
Atascadero CA 93422
sales@hotpart.com

The following is a email we received from Richard who is the President of Vogtland North America.

"VVS wire provides our engineers to stress the material much higher than normal suspension grade wire. So we can reduce the wire diameter and reduce the total coil count. If you have a apples to apples comparison from spring to spring and the other manufacturer uses a high grade chrome silicon (CrSi) wire, the Vogtland VVS alloy provides about a 15 - 20% weight reduction based on wire diameter reduction. But because we can package a smaller spring and achieve the same travel we normally can see improvements of 30 - 35 % weight reduction.

The material that we use is more expensive, however, if you reduce spring weight proportionately total springs cost is within 10% of standard CrSi material. Vogtland is willing to defray the cost so that we can enter the market and provide value to our customers. Less money is spent on advertising and that savings is passed to the customer."

This should help clear a few things up behind the theory of using this material. We also have a data sheet on these spring we can email anyone who wants one.


J&M Products
www.hotpart.com
805-239-1558 phone
805-239-1339 fax
4005 Traffic Way
Atascadero CA 93422
sales@hotpart.com

I'm in the market for springs, has anyone had any experience with these? Anyone besides the person selling them?

I'm in the market for springs, has anyone had any experience with these? Anyone besides the person selling them?

I doubt it, I think they are pretty new.

The F-Body springs are very new to the market for them. This is a link to yes a Mustang write up but it will still tell the story.

http://www.yellowmustangregistry.com/vogtland.html

I hope this Helps. These springs are better than most aftermarket springs. The price is awesome. That company had made springs for alot cars for years and is very reputable. If you were an Audi guy you'd be all over these. I didnt even think i wanted springs until i saw this.

I hope this Helps. These springs are better than most aftermarket springs. The price is awesome. That company had made springs for alot cars for years and is very reputable. If you were an Audi guy you'd be all over these. I didnt even think i wanted springs until i saw this.

Do you have them on your SS?

How much of a drop do they give?

Do you have them on your SS?
No, but i think i might buy them.

These will drop the vehicle 1.2" front and rear.

Only 10 days left.

Only one set of the 3rd generation springs left. We will be getting some more in 3 to 4 weeks.

These are pretty good springs. I have a set on my Grand Prix and love them. GMPP makes a lowering kit with adjustable Koni struts for the Grand Prixs and they use this brand of spring in the package. That has to say something for the company when GMPP pairs them with Koni's.

Can't say that I have any experience with them on an F-body, but I like the brand. If I didn't already have a set of DMS springs on my Camaro I would probably order a set of these.

I will suggest to the vendor that pics of the drop will help sell them.

Remember this ends at midnight on November 30th. We are out of the 3rd gen. springs. If you order a set we will back order them and honor the price when they are ready to ship. It should be around one week.

This is the last day to take advantage of this great deal.

Are yall going to be running any special on them in the near future?? Also what is their normal price??

We do not have any plans for future specials of the vogtland springs. The normal price is $217.50 delivered in the cont. usa.