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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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Honda commits to new V10 NSX

http://www.whatcar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=217417
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Honda commits to new NSX
20 October 2005

• New NSX on sale in two years
• V10 supercar to rival Ferrari
• S2000 to be replaced

Honda has confirmed to What Car? it will build another supercar to crown its roadgoing range.

A new NSX is expected to be on sale within two years, powered by a racing-pedigree V10 engine.

Motoatsu Shiraishi, Honda’s chairman of research and development, said that the company was planning a state-of-the-art supercar. This will showcase Honda’s engineering capability and demonstrate that it could compete with the likes of Porsche and Ferrari, as well as produce successful small cars.

‘Our aim is to have a V10 engine some time in the future,’ he said. ‘I can’t confirm exactly what type of vehicle the new NSX will be, but we are planning something.’

Shiraishi also revealed that the S2000 roadster, which has been on sale for five years, would also be replaced in the next few years.

‘The S2000 has not been a success for us,’ he admitted. ‘It was offered only with a manual gearbox and this limited its appeal in many markets.’

Honda only sells around 2500 S2000s a year in the UK. Shiraishi hinted that its successor, and other performance derivatives such as future Type-R models, would have to offer paddle-shift gearchanges and other options to broaden their appeal.
donno... its UK info probably the same as here... but why V10? V8's are better IMO... same avalible power and less pistons/moving parts...
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Also mentions an S2000 replacement will have more widespread appeal. We'll see what they come up with.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Also mentions an S2000 replacement will have more widespread appeal. We'll see what they come up with.
i bet whatever they do to make it sell better will make it slower... aka auto tranny...
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Sounds like the next victim for Corvette, served up on a platter.

You would have thought that they would have learned from the last debacle.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Sounds like the next victim for Corvette, served up on a platter.

You would have thought that they would have learned from the last debacle.
lol, it might as well bend over now while its still raw
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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donno... its UK info probably the same as here... but why V10? V8's are better IMO... same avalible power and less pistons/moving parts...
As it stated in the article, Honda needs to prove its "engineering" skills and that it can compete with the exotic markets.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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donno... its UK info probably the same as here... but why V10? V8's are better IMO... same avalible power and less pistons/moving parts...

Same thing goes for DOHC cars... WHY??? GM has proven with the LS series engines that there is still economy & power to be had out of standard pushrod type engines for less money. Thay are basically just trying to show their engineering potential here. Most likely this isn't going to be a cheap car so why worry about the extra moving parts. This is afterall a halo car...
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Re: Honda commits to new V10 NSX

I like the fact that the s2000 is being replaced, instead of terminated altogether. Last I read there was no replacement in sight for it, but this is much better news indeed. I am also pleased to see Honda moved away from that v6/hybrid powertrain crap for their new NSX, and is using the v10 instead. I would bet they are using a v10 to be able to turn very high rpms, as more than likely this engine will benefit from much of Honda's F1 experience.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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This doesn't make sense to me. They should be putting a high performance V8 in the NSX and then carrying it over to the RL and truck market. That V10 won't really have a 'home' in any of their other existing vehicles as far as I can guess.

Then again maybe they've go a V8 underway already and it just wasn't deemed suitable for the NSX? Then again the V6 never was suitable.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Re: Honda commits to new V10 NSX

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This doesn't make sense to me. They should be putting a high performance V8 in the NSX and then carrying it over to the RL and truck market. That V10 won't really have a 'home' in any of their other existing vehicles as far as I can guess.

Then again maybe they've go a V8 underway already and it just wasn't deemed suitable for the NSX? Then again the V6 never was suitable.
I agree, it would seem that they'd need another model to put the V10 in to make a business case.

Old Oct 31, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Honda has a lot of exprience in racing engines. They were in Formula 1 with V10, perhaps a low displacement high RPM screamer is what they are considering to put into NSX.

I also don't understand why people are saying the previous NSX failed. It did what it did, and it did it well. It handled well. It drove like a racecar. Perhaps it didn't rip 11 second quarter mile, yet it was still a delight to drive.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Honda commits to new V10 NSX

Originally Posted by muckz
Honda has a lot of exprience in racing engines. They were in Formula 1 with V10, perhaps a low displacement high RPM screamer is what they are considering to put into NSX.

I also don't understand why people are saying the previous NSX failed. It did what it did, and it did it well. It handled well. It drove like a racecar. Perhaps it didn't rip 11 second quarter mile, yet it was still a delight to drive.
It failed performance wise because of what its price dictated it would compete with...
Now if it was around 40k or so, I could see it being more of a success.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Same thing goes for DOHC cars... WHY??? GM has proven with the LS series engines that there is still economy & power to be had out of standard pushrod type engines for less money.
because GM is not seen as "technologically advanced" and some people refuse to ride in cars that has roots to "redneck nascar lovers" using old tech instead of embracing the new technologies of today.

if you want a funny read about how ignorant people can be go here: (the thread is about the corvette Z06 on an mr2 forum)
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=137890

I forget if you have to be registered to read it or not. if not heres some highlights:

"Corvettes are over-rated paper box POS...

I'd rather invest in an M5 that also puts 500 factory ponies on the ground and does a better job at it too, comfort wise. And then I won't have to worry about messing up the fiberglass body if I back into an anthill."

"7.0l making ~500whp. Wow...must be a technically advanced engine...to be able to make ~71hp/liter. Yes, that was sarcasm. I would rather have a Ferrari 430, no matter the price difference. If it had to be under the $60k price, then I would just put that money into a used E36 M3 and stomp the hell out of that vette in all types of racing."

"Yeah, but putting a more developed engine with DOHC would have saved some weight and would have made it that much faster.

The LS7 weighs ~490lbs while the F430 motor weighs ~380lbs, but still manages 490bhp. Everything I have read (trying to find the damn weight for the LS7) is about how Chevy did everything it could to lower the weight of the motor and car, including magnesium components and CF body parts. Imagine if it had 100lbs less on the nose...making a great car even better."



you see, thats why theres DOHC, vtec, VVT whatever. cause its technology. just because something else works better doesnt mean theyll buy it
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Re: Honda commits to new V10 NSX

Originally Posted by Threxx
This doesn't make sense to me. They should be putting a high performance V8 in the NSX and then carrying it over to the RL and truck market. That V10 won't really have a 'home' in any of their other existing vehicles as far as I can guess.

Then again maybe they've go a V8 underway already and it just wasn't deemed suitable for the NSX? Then again the V6 never was suitable.
A v8 is already being seriously considered for Ridgeline and the Acura line.

I like how they're not going with a v8 for the NSX replacement. V10 fits the bill and image of an exotic more.



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