do you have to have a panhard rod for a weekend driver?

red96z
10-30-2005, 09:11 PM
just wondering if u need the rod and the brace above it? i removed both during fuel pump install and like the look of not having one soooo do u need it?

Mean Green
10-30-2005, 09:14 PM
i believe that's there to keep your rear end from moving side to side.

sw89lt1
10-30-2005, 09:15 PM
yes it has to be there.

RE AND CHERYL
10-30-2005, 09:16 PM
YES!

You can't even drive the car without the panard bar as it is the only thing keeping the rearend centered under the car. The brace is necessary to strengthen the panard bar mount.

flatlander757
10-30-2005, 09:17 PM
I felt my brain just get smaller when I read that.

Why screw with the suspension just for looks? :confused:

n2ceptor
10-30-2005, 09:33 PM
Yes...:)

MentalCaseOne
10-30-2005, 11:16 PM
Dude... that would be real funny to see your rear end go one way tires and all while you fish tail the rest of the rear end the other way.....


grin... really you need to keep that thing there man... It would be catastrophyc if you try to drive a few feet without it.

Marvin

anaik
10-30-2005, 11:52 PM
I felt my brain just get smaller when I read that.

Why screw with the suspension just for looks? :confused:

Good one.

Bud M
10-31-2005, 01:18 AM
yes u need it

Big_Z
10-31-2005, 03:33 AM
YES!

You can't even drive the car without the panard bar as it is the only thing keeping the rearend centered under the car. The brace is necessary to strengthen the panard bar mount.

Actually can drive i without the bar, in my old '88 formula the top bracket for it broke on one side and it fell out, i drove it for two or three days before i found someone to weld the mount back together. you do gotta be smooth with the turns though, the whole rear will wander around and scrape the tires in the wheel wells lol

Bud M
10-31-2005, 09:16 AM
you do gotta be smooth with the turns though, the whole rear will wander around and scrape the tires in the wheel wells lol
damn

mongse_1
10-31-2005, 10:53 AM
Panhard bar...yes
Panhard bar brace...no, although I wouldn't try it on anything that's street driven

87DJP2001
10-31-2005, 12:05 PM
just wondering if u need the rod and the brace above it? i removed both during fuel pump install and like the look of not having one soooo do u need it?


"like the look of not having one soooo do u need it?". Well if you are dumb enough to take it off and think you don't need it, go right ahead and drive the car. It will look sooo good going down the road. :rolleyes:

Joe 97RA
11-01-2005, 08:21 AM
I think he means the panhard brace. :confused: Drag racers often remove the upper brace because they only go in a straight line. I wouldn't remove it on a street car, the side loads on the panhard rod would likely break the mount and end up causing serious damage.

Norm Peterson
11-01-2005, 09:50 PM
Umm, no, he did specifically mention both the PHB and the brace.

No PHB means that the tires vs fenderwells are the only things keeping the axle from leaving out one side of the car. Not that the inner sidewalls of the tires and the inner wheel flanges will be very happy about their new duty . . .

No brace means that sooner or later either the chassis bracket or the metal that it's attached to will fail. At that point it's like not having the PHB installed except now you have the PHB and its chassis bracket dangling off the axle bracket and flopping around.

red96z - if you like the looks of no PHB or brace that much, may I suggest that you go ahead and remove them and place the rear of your car up on blocks such that you can admire the new-found appearance from the comfort of your living room chair. As a helpful suggestion, you might want to get the car turned around for best view first.

Norm

Joe 97RA
11-02-2005, 06:24 PM
Umm, no, he did specifically mention both the PHB and the brace.

No PHB means that the tires vs fenderwells are the only things keeping the axle from leaving out one side of the car. Not that the inner sidewalls of the tires and the inner wheel flanges will be very happy about their new duty . . .

No brace means that sooner or later either the chassis bracket or the metal that it's attached to will fail. At that point it's like not having the PHB installed except now you have the PHB and its chassis bracket dangling off the axle bracket and flopping around.



Norm

Just to clarify something, The panhard rod itself is what keeps the differential assembly centered in the chassis and keeps the tires from hitting the fenderwells. The panhard brace is what reinforces the mount where the panhard rod attaches to the chassis. You are correct that without the brace, the mount will eventually tear and the differential assembly will shift from side to side.