PCMforless or Dyno Tuning

Hey guys I am just wondering which is better should I go with PCMforless or a local Dyno Tune? I have heard nothing but good things about PCMforless. The one reason I want a tune right now is because I have had a Z06 MAF for about 2 years and I am ready to use it thanks for any advice.

Adam 1999 Camaro Z28 M6 Dallas,TX: TSP Smoke Clear Lid, Holley Powershot Filter, All Free Mods, Mac Off-Road Y-Pipe Dynomax Bullit muffler Dumped before the rear axle, 17X9.5 Satin SS Wheels in front and 17x11 ZR1 Wheels Rear running 315's :bow:

Not to bash them, but I have heard PCM4Less doesn't do a wonderful job with LSX engines

i don't think you have the mods to warrent a full dyno tune.

i suppose if it was as cheap as the mail order it wouldnt be so bad. but they are usually a good amount of $$ more.

i say go for pcmforless or madz28.com

Doesn't www.ls1speed.com do mail order tuning now?

At least get headers before you get a tune

As far as PCMforless or actual dyno tune, I'm not sure what to tell you.

I can tell you that for just a new MAF, you may want to just sell the MAF. I notice in your sig that you have an ORY? Do you have headers as well? If you have the mods to go with it (headers, exhaust, lid, LS6 intake, etc.) then put the MAF on and get it tuned if you haven't. One of my friends with a larger MAF on his '01 Z28 actually lost power from it until he got his long tube headers and a full dyno tune. He had a lid, the SLP y-pipe, and Loudmouth exhuast, but with the stock manifolds and cats, he actually gained a couple HP from putting his stock MAF back on. They had a dyno day at a local place down here in Orlando and his air/fuel was way too rich, he happened to have his stock MAF with him, threw it back on, and bingo! his car ran better. Dyno tune just for a MAF? There's better ways to spend that $$ for increased power. Just my thoughts.

I'd have to agree, to spend $250 just to use a MAF is a waste.
Just go to a dyno slap the thing on, if you get gains then great, if not, sell it.

bryan herder (pcmforless) does do an actual dyno tune also. he is good with lsx engines. many locals and local shops use him. jd's, axceleratedmotorsports.com, and other non sponsers. since he uses non-sponser dyno's is why you dont really hear of his dyno tune work. post this question in northeast forum for a better response.

agree on mail order at this point, maybe get the tune after a few more mods unless you have to.

Thanks for the Advice guys
I don't have headers I want to go true duals
so i might wait until I have headers on to get a tune

There is no way that one of his half assed mail order tunes can compete with a tune by a person that is there in person to adjust your A/F ratio there on the dyno. If you think anything different, you need to bill him for advertising :D