Can my LT1 hande this?

blahster
09-04-2005, 01:37 AM
Can my stock bottom end LT1 handle an ATI Procharger P1sc? i am debating on whether or not i should get one...or not...and would i have to change anything on it or can i just put it on.....and go...with a bit of computer tuning that is....

5.0THIS
09-04-2005, 02:36 AM
Sure it will take it. For how long is the question. Tuning is critical to engine life, but nonetheless with stock cast internals, it is only a matter of time. Some motors dont last long with a good tune anyway, yet some last 20,000 miles or more with a blower. Kind of a crapshoot. You will need to upgrade your fuel system including a new pump and injectors.

ss#1230
09-04-2005, 12:48 PM
id imagine that procharger's kit would include fuel management parts. not sure what that have.....injectors, fmu, pump????? but im sure there is something.

5.0THIS are you getting a SC or turbo someday? i see you in the the FI forum all the time.

96PTKZ28
09-04-2005, 01:09 PM
They do come with an FMU, external boost pump,relay etc. The proper way to do it though is to get an aftermarket regulator, high output intank and larger injectors. I had a 8psi Procharger kit on my 96 and never had any problems. It truely is hit or miss. I kept the supplied fmu, pump and stock injectors which were ok, but I had seen friends switch with good results. Depending on your budget and how much you want to make, I would stick with what comes in the kit. You can always upgrade those things later if you want more boost. Breaking ring lands on your pistons and spinning rod bearings are the most common parts failures on our cars when boosted stock. Just keep your fingers crossed and pray!

5.0THIS
09-04-2005, 01:26 PM
5.0THIS are you getting a SC or turbo someday? i see you in the the FI forum all the time.

Not sure why it matters. I've owned FI cars before. When money allows the LT1 will be boosted.

ss#1230
09-05-2005, 12:16 AM
just a question...

5.0THIS
09-05-2005, 05:13 AM
just a question...

I would like to get a PTK kit.

:)

Sparkz28ss
09-07-2005, 01:38 AM
I would like to get a PTK kit.

:)


Im with you on that one...

ss#1230
09-08-2005, 12:04 PM
if i lived in a state where i didnt have to deal with smog, id probably go with ptk too.

EDS Z28
09-10-2005, 10:45 AM
if i lived in a state where i didnt have to deal with smog, id probably go with ptk too.

Yep, I second that.

Turbo's aren't legal out here unless originally installed by the factory, ie buick grand national & gmc typhoon

With regards to adding the procharger, just be careful with the boost, don't go over 7-8 pounds and keep an eye on the timing (most critical).

Edward06
09-12-2005, 12:42 PM
To the original poster:

I have the Procharger P1SC (single intercooler) kit on my 95 Z28.

Being in Los Angeles County, I bought my kit from San Diego Superchargers (www.sandiegosuperchargers.com) as Procharger only sells through a distributor.

The LT1 is a very strong engine and it is fully capable of handling a Procharger P1SC with no extra modifications.

And if you buy a fully complete kit, as I did, you will not have to buy ANYTHING extra for the engine. The only things you will want extra are a boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, and a air/fuel ratio gauge. How you get them mounted inside your car is up to you.

If you decide to mount your fuel pressure gauge inside you will need an isolator of course (I ordered thru Summit Racing and they are very helpful with any questions you have and making sure you get the right thing and all associated parts that go with it).

I did not need to buy fuel injectors my kit came with a fuel management unit (FMU).

Good Luck!

Edward06
09-12-2005, 12:46 PM
One of the biggest headaches about putting on a supercharger is every single person you talk to tells you something different.

I suggest you do what I did: If you have technical questions just call up Procharger (www.procharger.com) and they will help you with any questions you have and treat you like gold. They are great.

One last thing, and Procharger themselves will tell you this....if your kit comes with a Fuel Management Unit (FMU) you DO NOT need larger injectors. That is what the FMU is there for.

If you buy larger injectors and install them, make sure you take your FMU off or you will be running extremely rich.

It is one or the other...larger injectors or FMU.

Have fun. :)

5.0THIS
09-12-2005, 04:58 PM
The LT1 is a very strong engine and it is fully capable of handling a Procharger P1SC with no extra modifications.

Tell that to the many people that have grenaded stock pistons with 6 psi and a safe tune.

Edward06
09-13-2005, 01:34 PM
Tell that to the many people that have grenaded stock pistons with 6 psi and a safe tune.

I don't know you and I wasn't there when the people you are talking about grenaded stock pistons with a 6 psi tune but....

I do know that most problems come from bad tuning and abusing the engine during the tune.

All I'm getting at is the original poster should stick with what Procharger tells him.

I did.

ss#1230
09-13-2005, 03:04 PM
well, ill just throw my two cents in now. ATI, vortech, or any other SC company isnt going to tell people that what they need to do is to have their motor rebuilt with forged low compression components, get expensive fuel management systems, and pay someone to do a custom dyno tune. all which will cost anywhere from $5,000 up to $10,000+ (on top of the supercharger).

no, what there gonna say is that 6-8 psi on a stock motor is totally fine unless your motor is in poor shape to begin with. my owners manual recommends not putting a supercharger on a high mileage motor. why? too much stress....

im making more that 50% more horsepower than my motor was built to handle. something has got to give....the weakest link.....the pistons usually. im just waiting for the day when it gives out....

yes the motor will last just as long if you never put your foot down to get some boost, but then whats the point of even having the SC. the more you put your foot in it, the sooner it goes boom.

275HP
09-13-2005, 11:52 PM
ss#1230 is correct. The more you put your foot in it, the sooner the motor will go boom. Most of us get FI because of the feeling you get when you floor it and the car puts you firmly in the seat. If you can resist racing everyone from stop light to stop light and you don't plan on going to the track every weekend, then your motor will last for a bit longer. One thing to remember is that no matter what way you decide to make horsepower, be it FI or NOS, when you floor it, you introduce an artificial atmosphere which is much more stress on your motor, starting with the pistons and rings. If you practice a little bit or reserve, you will probably be all right.

Keep this in mind though. Most of us in this forum probably started with a few mild mods and as the need for speed began to take over, we began to plan for bigger and better things.