95 Z against 03 F-250 Can't be can it.

I'm as shocked as anybody that some one with an F-250 would want to race a Z-28. A friend of mine has an F-250, 4 door, 4x4 and wants to race with me. He says that he can put something called a Six Banger on his truck and give hime 200 hp and 200tq over what he has stock. I began to laugh and tell him that he was crazy and that Six banger wouldn't make a big enough difference. I told him those trucks are heavy and designed for pulling campers not pulling along side a Camaro at over a 100 miles an hour. SO whats anybody's should I tell him to go ahead and get his six banger and then race him title for tile so I'll have me a nice truck to pull a camper with.

Is his truck a deisel? There are some kits for deisels that can make them real fast. I would'nt race for pinks. There are to many things that could possibly go wrong to cause you to lose your vehicle.But theres nothing wrong with racing for some $$$ though. :D

YEah his is diesel. He probably wouldn't race for titles because its his company truck. But nevertheless it'd still be funny for him to spend 2 grand on this six banger thing and still get beat by me.

Uhh.... it's called the six gun set-up, and I know I'd think twice befroe messing wth a diesel with one. Chipped turbo diesels are no joke! Plus, they'rre only around $700 I believe.

Well there's the Sin gun chip but if he's spending 2k i would watch out. Because I was watching a truck show while back and they showed this 6 gun performance upgrade package. I believe that truck put down around 500hp and 1000ft of torque. Yea the show is called Xtreme 4/4. Yea might want to watch out a bit.

I have heard lots and lots about the turbo diesel trucks and how they can waste lots of fast cars like our fourth gens ,run 12s..yada yada..well MAYBE they can but you would have to spend fortunes to get one that fast. These things weigh big ..think 6500 to 8000 pounds and even with 500 hp they are slow slow slow.
We had bunch of these stinky things blowing smoke enough to kill every mosquito for a mile around the track out racing a few weeks ago. We had every brand..dodge turbo diesel,ford powerstroke ,gm duramax..And they were all pretty damn slow..The fastest time out of one of them was 14.75.
Pretty good for a big huge truck but I would say your lt1 should be able to beat it pretty easily. I ran one on the highway in my vert , I passed him at 80 mph or so and then slowed down to 70mph and then he tried to pass me ,it was double lane and the race was on an he was trying and so was I.
The vert ate the truck big time up and it wasn't even close by 100mph the truck was fading fast in the rearview and he was trying.Those things have terrible aerodynamics..Off the line maybe they have a chance, it think some of the 4 by 4s got decent low 60fts actually but with my new nittos wouldn't be afraid of 99% of them.
They are neat and power helps for pulling trailers but seems they have to put out huge amounts of ugly stinking black smoke to go fast at least all the track trucks did.
The were fast enough to beat some really slow cars at the track like most hondas,toyotas,nissans ,and 14.75 is faster than a quite a few of the third gen f bodies stock. But like I said the other trucks were running think 15 and 16s..no 14s there. Our track is at 1700 feet so it does hurt times a bit but turbos should be hurt less by it than our NA cars. I did run 15.0 at 94 with some 2.5 60fts my first time there in the vert when it was nearly totally stock with 2.73 gears.
I ran 14.3 last time with magnaflow catback and 3.42 gears as only changes from the 15 .0 run and should be mid 13s now. I don't have tons of mods either but have nittos,3.42 gears,2800 stall now,magnaflow catback,g2 induction,hpp tuning out,maft,30 pounds svos,tb bypass and asp underdrive balancer. Thats it.And some suspension mods
Anyway I bet on you..unless he spent thousands on his diesel it ain't going to beat you unless you spin them off too much. :D

Don't waste your gas; laugh at him and go on your way.

I wouldn't laugh to loud. I have seen some of these slow truck run. They had a shootout one week end at the track(1/8) mile. THey ran anywhere from low 9's to low 7's.

I think they do decent in 1/8 mile due if awd and stuff do to decent think 2.0 or so 60fts but not so good in 1/4 mile where maybe the barn door aerodynamic come into play and think much past 100 mph they really have problems.
7 's in the 8th is very fast for sure and think that is 12s or something converted? Not sure not much into 1/8 tracks .
Still all the trucks at my track were slow as slugs compared to nearly any
modded up fourth gen there. That 14.75 was the best of the day and
I watched all the truck runs. And that was all three makes dodge,ford and gm.

So sure these 12 second trucks exist but don't seem to be any around
here at least not at track that day And I have to ask do they have to
belch out obscene amounts of smoke like jet airplanes going down the track as if they do that on public roads well lets just say its not exact too cool.

And hey even if one of these big monsters is faster than me so what..
I know for sure I can outcorner,outbrake and out top speed these things. I can make my lawnmower fast..big deal. But hey never been much of a truck guy. They are great for hauling things give them that..

diesels are not joke, i had first hand experience. buddy's dad had a 03 F350 4x4 levelling kit and 35s with a 110 egde lightning chip. in 4high off the line u could throw all 6 people in the truck to the back of their seats. he roasted me when i first got my car and it was stock. although i couldnt launch they still are crazy fast up to about 80-90 mph then the aeordynamics of a barnhouse kick in. race from a roll make sure he's in 2wd cuz a diesel in 4 hi can embarrass someone who doubts them. GOOD LUCK!

This guys truck would be LUCKY to run anything approaching a 14 considering he probably isn't that great of a driver. Personally I wouldnt even bother racing some dumb diesel pig, but as long as you can drive you wont have to worry about beating this guy and then reminding him of what trucks are really for. When was the last time any of you have seen a 12 second truck with a chip program installed? Answer, NEVER! I know there are some MODIFIED diesels that are in that range, but not this dude. Also, just because a vehicle ( any type) throws you back in the seat, DOES NOT mean it is fast in a 1/4 mile drag race. I thought my car was fast when I first got it stock. My idea of fast has changed just a little. Trucks arent worth the gas, but I would say race him just to prove an already obvious point. Trucks are slow!

There's a turboed Silverado running around that'd make you re-think that. Stock looking on the outside, runs 10s in the quarter. His videos are some of the best street action I've seen - it's downright hilarious to watch the kinds of cars he wastes.

As with any vehicle, some are fast and some are posers. You don't know for sure until the light turns green.

That's all well and good, but I doubt the truck this guy's gonna go against is running 7's in the 1/8.

I'm not saying it's impossible for trucks to do that, but I'm thinking this isn't one of those cases.

Just be careful with it. I went to Muncie Dragway last week and there was a lifted Dodge Diesel and a Silverado, both were breaking into the 13's. They were both diesels and blew a **** load of black smoke. I went head to head with the Silverado and I had a terrible launch something like 2.3 compared to his 1.99 and I was playing catch-up the whole way down the track. I think I ended up running only like .1 faster then him on that run. I think I ran like 13.8 to his 13.9 but I did trap like 8 MPH faster then him. Jsut be careful with it bc they can be very fast.

The last time I was at the track, I was paired up with a new Ram 2500 Quad Cab shortbed Cummins Diesel 4x4. I saw him in the staging lanes previously that night and overheard that he had $20,000 under the hood. :eek: I don't know how true this was, but when it was time for me to run him, he totally beat me out of the hole and I COULD NOT pull him until about the 1/8 mile mark and then I blew past him and put about 3-4 cars on him. The guy had his whole family in the truck too, :D , I bet right after the launch, they were all saying, "Look Daddy, we're gonna beat this here Camaro..."

Yea, I saw (I think on Hot Rod TV), a diesel with the "chip" thing done, wouldn't get traction for sh!t. I wouldn't be worried-do it! :cool:

I think he;s over pricen that 6 gun thing and thats all he said it would take to beat me. I guess I could let him waste his money and get smoked anyway.

Now on the other hand. He's got a 1994 Boss Hoss motorcycle. with over 500 hp. I want even consider racin that thing. Check em out. It has a carberated LT-1 on a motorcycle.www.bosshoss.com

Yeah I really think he'd be wasting his time to race me with his truck. I might not have many mods but still I just can't see it being a challange.

It's not too difficult to get a big diesel truck to go fast. Here's a video of a 4 door 4 wheel drive racing an LS1 Camaro at Sacramento Raceway. The truck ran 12.36 and the Camaro ran 12.95.

Diesel vs Camaro (http://www.norcal1320media.com/Chris/TruckBeatsCamaroSmall.wmv)

theres a local guy at my track who runs 12.9's in his turbo deisel dodge. its very impressive.

There's a turboed Silverado running around that'd make you re-think that. Stock looking on the outside, runs 10s in the quarter. His videos are some of the best street action I've seen - it's downright hilarious to watch the kinds of cars he wastes.

As with any vehicle, some are fast and some are posers. You don't know for sure until the light turns green.

If its the same pickup im thinking of, it was in hot rod magazine last year or so. It runs 10.90s and he is and electrition and uses is truck to haul his stuff around for work every day. Oh and he is running a 75 shot of juice too. The article said he liked to street race alot too.

I have personally seen a diesel truck run low 11's at Sac raceway. Scared me silly.

Check out the new Hot Rod mag, they have a whole artical on this subject.

If its the same pickup im thinking of, it was in hot rod magazine last year or so. It runs 10.90s and he is and electrition and uses is truck to haul his stuff around for work every day. Oh and he is running a 75 shot of juice too. The article said he liked to street race alot too.

he has a new setup. hes already broken his 10.90 record.

Never underestimate the diesels. Mine has run a 14.0 in 90 degree heat which was before the new injectors and turbo. My T/A will pull on it pretty hard after 100 but they're dead even until then. Its great fun to see the expressions on peoples faces when this 7500 lb truck runs away from them. :D

ive seen a newer duramax running mid to low 7's at the local 1/8th. He woulda handed me my 8.2 ass !!!!!! 4x4 too , spinning all 4 tires in the box , it was one hell of a sight. My cars running alot better now tho , new plugs , delteq (opti was crapping out) , and found out the car was running with one cat already dead from natural causes. Fixed the other one now im ready to go :) .... curious about what Ill run myself now

Four wheel drive, wide traction tires, all geared and powered at 2000 RPMS, all the trucks have to do is jump off the line, and hold the lead that short distance. If it's set up right it WILL beat a camaro off the line every time, they have so much torque pulling their family inside doesn't hurt to much. Just ask ole Boon, he drives with one hand behind the seat and sipping his big gulp, while racing people, while their trying to shift to catch him his reaching for his dounuts in the next seat. It's true, camaros and stuff like that really are faster, but he jumps off the line first and just has to keep the camaro playing catch up until he crosses the line, then the camaro screams past after the race is over. He races while pulling campers and his boat, still surprises people. Shut down a civic(Definetly looked all stock) while dragging his camper home and his big trailer full of scuba gear...

you guys are crazy.... he is just going to race a diesle truck with banks six gun. Not some amazing 11 seccond monster.... i race him.... and make money on it.

My dad has a f350 powerstroke 7.3 liter with sixgun and banks exhaust.... i destroyed him.... just kick your buddies ass and put him is his place

YEah, this post went from racing a basically stock truck with addition of a sixgun to how great and powerful these trucks can be, after dumping $20K into them that is. If some hillbilly pulled up with his ugly wife and retarded kids, I would just laugh and keep on drivin. Granted i dont drive a bolt on Z, but even if I did, I would have the same reaction. If you want to go fast, buy a car! Much easier and less expensive to get to where you want to go(fast). Race this joker and show him that yes, his truck is a slow pig, even with a sixgun, blah, blah. And dont get a ticket, wouldn't that suck.