Camaro = 1 Z06 = 0

Today I was coming home from work, I passed a mustang GT that was in the slow lane... low and behold what do I see? A z06! It looked to be a 2002 or so. It didnt have the fancy new rear end. He looked at me and gunned it. We had a good couple yards in front of us. By the time I hit 90mph he was well in my rear view mirror. Chalk one more up for the camaro!

This little 350 sure is impressive! :D

Cant wait to get some gears.... :)

Oops, wrong forum. :o

Oops, wrong forum. :o
Got that right..... but nothing we can't correct.

Moving to "kill......."

make that 2 camaro 0 ZO6 i beat one tonight at the track my 12.9 at 110 to his 13.2 at 108

wow, them z06's are that slow? No wonder I had him by a couple carlengths. I bet I run 12.7 or better depending on traction.

i am sure it depends a lot on the driver as with any stick because i have seen the 405hp which this was go high 12s stock. I have also seen one with heads cam and drag radials go 12.5 because the guy absolutley couldnt drive

What are your mods?
Lt1/Ls1?
Nitrous?
Was the Z06 racing ?

Haha, yes he was racing. I have LE2/GM847 Cam with all the mods you can do to a Fbody. I should be in the 11's in the quarter mile but I dont get traction until 3rd gear if I really get on it. So I am just gonna guess 12.7's or a little better for my quarter mile time, however I should have a high MPH in the quarter due to all my mods. I will be throwing in the 9" and the 125 shot next summer with some slicks...

Oh, I thought you was stock when I first read your sig Good race!

I will be throwing in the 9" and the 125 shot next summer with some slicks...

So then you don't have every mod for an F-body....

Congrats. I ran same time as one at the track Fiday night. 12.9 for each of us. But my traps were in the 106 range, he was trapping 112. Heat was horrible and my trap speeds were way down, should have been 110, but I was happy that we hung together.

I walked several ls1s that night though.

wow, them z06's are that slow? No wonder I had him by a couple carlengths. I bet I run 12.7 or better depending on traction.
They are not even close to being that slow. If he knew how to drive and it was a 405 hp Z06, he's easily pulling away from you if you are running 12.70's. One my buddy learned how to drive his 03 Z06 he pulled 12.20-12.30's all day long.

They are not even close to being that slow. If he knew how to drive and it was a 405 hp Z06, he's easily pulling away from you if you are running 12.70's. One my buddy learned how to drive his 03 Z06 he pulled 12.20-12.30's all day long.

Did you see that he has LE2 heads and the 847 cam? That's more than enough to walk by a Z06. He's probably just under 400 RWHP.

Dan

My buddy got an 01 Z06 new and ran 12.4@117mph with cai and a ripper, and that is a 385hp car. Dont be fooled they are very fast.

Did you see that he has LE2 heads and the 847 cam? That's more than enough to walk by a Z06. He's probably just under 400 RWHP.

Dan
He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's, which is not fast enough to beat a well driven Z06.

He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's, which is not fast enough to beat a well driven Z06.

he said that because he doesnt get traction until 3rd, he was just making a guess. they were racing from a roll so take out the 1/4 mile time and with his setup im sure he could of taken it out from a roll.

nice kill.

He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's, which is not fast enough to beat a well driven Z06.

From a roll 1/4 mile times dont mean much, since there isnt much traction issues or 60' times, its all power vs power vs weight. I see nothing wrong with the claims. My buddy with a LE2 H/C with bolt on's raced a C6 Vette from a roll and pulled on him easily. And yes he was racing too.

-Dustin-

Traction is all part of a race. From a roll, if he should be running 11's, then yes he's going to take out a Z06. If he can't hook up from a dig, and he's "guessing" he runs 12.70's, then he's not going to take the Z06 out unless it's a 1/2 mile track. Anyway, good kill on the vette. :cool:

He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's,

because of traction he said...good thing the race was from a roll. An LE headed car with his cam should trap 116-118 no problem.

He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's, which is not fast enough to beat a well driven Z06.


Other's already mentioned it, but from a roll, it's more about HP and weight. That's why I estimated his rwhp #'s. 12.7 would be a sad 1/4 mile time for his car, but like he said, it's due to lack of traction.

I have a ton of respect for the Z06's. A lady has a silver one here at work, and I love seeing it every time I go in our parking lot. (especially since I have the same front brakes as a Z06 now :) )

Dan

Traction is all part of a race. From a roll, if he should be running 11's, then yes he's going to take out a Z06. If he can't hook up from a dig, and he's "guessing" he runs 12.70's, then he's not going to take the Z06 out unless it's a 1/2 mile track. Anyway, good kill on the vette. :cool:

I am somewhat confused by what your trying to say here. But I'll try to explain my point a bit more.

First the race was from a roll. Stop thinking 12.7/11.9 or whatever, start thinking 118mph trap vs 110 or so mph trap as an exmple. Most Z06's dont run low 13's they run like you said mid to low 12's.

Now we'll use my buddy as an example since its almost the same case. 1997 LE2 H/C with full bolt on's, gears, TC (~400rwhp) vs C6 Vette (close to the LS6). Racing from a roll the LT1 has the stock Z06 or C6 beat since its more raw power. Now at the track your talking who gets better traction, 60', shifting, then power, weight, etc. The LT1 used here can pull 12.6's on street tires, now if the Z06 had better than 2.4 60's, like 2.0's, its probably beating the LT1 at the end of the 1/4.

Point is trap speed and pure power usually determines roll races, where at the track there are many other factors as listed above. You cant just say, you run 12.7 to a Z06's average 12.4 or whatever and think that no matter the race type the Z06 wins. Good examples are Cobra's pusing 600rwhp running 14's, where my 300rwhp car runs 13's. From a roll I am dead, at the track I win.

-Dustin-

He said he's guessing that he's running 12.7's, which is not fast enough to beat a well driven Z06.

Elevation, driver, and temperatures are all key things to get a car moving fast. His car with his mods should beat a Z06 I would say :think:

just curious as to what you think 114mph should be running. my trap speeds in 1/4 are 114 with juice. 105 w/o. it is a 75 shot on there. just curious!

just curious as to what you think 114mph should be running. my trap speeds in 1/4 are 114 with juice. 105 w/o. it is a 75 shot on there. just curious!

Low 12's.

Dan

thanks, i suck then- looks likei need slicks if i want those numbers probably. Dr's arent doing it!

I am somewhat confused by what your trying to say here. But I'll try to explain my point a bit more.

First the race was from a roll. Stop thinking 12.7/11.9 or whatever, start thinking 118mph trap vs 110 or so mph trap as an exmple. Most Z06's dont run low 13's they run like you said mid to low 12's.

Now we'll use my buddy as an example since its almost the same case. 1997 LE2 H/C with full bolt on's, gears, TC (~400rwhp) vs C6 Vette (close to the LS6). Racing from a roll the LT1 has the stock Z06 or C6 beat since its more raw power. Now at the track your talking who gets better traction, 60', shifting, then power, weight, etc. The LT1 used here can pull 12.6's on street tires, now if the Z06 had better than 2.4 60's, like 2.0's, its probably beating the LT1 at the end of the 1/4.

Point is trap speed and pure power usually determines roll races, where at the track there are many other factors as listed above. You cant just say, you run 12.7 to a Z06's average 12.4 or whatever and think that no matter the race type the Z06 wins. Good examples are Cobra's pusing 600rwhp running 14's, where my 300rwhp car runs 13's. From a roll I am dead, at the track I win.

-Dustin-
Traction matters in every race, roll or stop. I agree that it's less of an issue from a roll. I guess all I was trying to say in this thread is I'm glad the race wasn't from a light, where it sounds like the Z06 may have had the edge because of traction issues, with the Maro reeling him in. How bout a set of sticky tires to end the traction problem?

Yes, Once I get some good tires I think I will be more of 11.9-12.2 for 1/4 mile and more around 116mph trap.

My biggest problem right now is traction, hence why I only race from a roll. :D

I will however be going to the track next sunday so I can get an idea of what I run on bald street tires.

My biggest problem right now is traction, hence why I only race from a roll. :D
Cheater :D That's a monster though. Let us know what you run when you do get some sticky's.

Very Nice Kill!!! Z06's are beasts!

Congratulations on the kill, it's always nice to beat what many people would think (whether true or not) is the faster car.

Traction matters in every race, roll or stop. I agree that it's less of an issue from a roll. I guess all I was trying to say in this thread is I'm glad the race wasn't from a light, where it sounds like the Z06 may have had the edge because of traction issues, with the Maro reeling him in. How bout a set of sticky tires to end the traction problem?

True, traction matters to a degree. I think we are on the same page now, beating the Z06 from a roll might be easy, but if he went from a stop, and he had traction issues and the Z06 didnt then he'd probably lose.

-Dustin-

Thats what I was trying to say the 1st time, but i guess I worded it wrong. :cool:

No problem, I thought your were trying to say something else.

-Dustin-