Vortech Sucks!!!!!

BCAUTOSOUND
06-21-2005, 10:07 PM
I would extremely recomend people look at another manufactuers product. I have went through a nightmare with my kit i bought from them. Got the whole kit installed and got to the last step and the tensioner pully wasn't in the box. Called vortech last friday they said they would next day air it. Monday came no tensioner. Called back said was still on the shipping table would send out that day. Tuesday comes no show. Will update the story tommorrow.

BADST95
06-21-2005, 10:28 PM
I would extremely recomend people look at another manufactuers product. I have went through a nightmare with my kit i bought from them. Got the whole kit installed and got to the last step and the tensioner pully wasn't in the box. Called vortech last friday they said they would next day air it. Monday came no tensioner. Called back said was still on the shipping table would send out that day. Tuesday comes no show. Will update the story tommorrow.

Dude... relax... it's not the end of the world. Ask them for some free stuff for your time. T-shirts, hats, etc. :D

Z8'S
06-21-2005, 10:33 PM
Sounds like you're a little upset :rolleyes:

Heck I would take the whole kit off and demand my money back :mad:

That would show them :eek:

You could have gone to a local Ford dealer and got that part and had it running already and probably been reimbursed by Vortech.

Thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't want to put any parts that suck on my car :cry:

engineermike
06-21-2005, 10:56 PM
I had a similar problem in that they left out the harmonic damper that's supposed to come with LT1 kits. Since I was also in a hurry (no reason except impatience), I had Vortech fax me a drawing so I could machine the stocker to the correct dimensions.

I never mentioned to them that they accidentally sent a 6.66" crank pulley instead of the damper.

Mike

BADST95
06-21-2005, 11:05 PM
Sounds like you're a little upset :rolleyes:

Heck I would take the whole kit off and demand my money back :mad:

That would show them :eek:

You could have gone to a local Ford dealer and got that part and had it running already and probably been reimbursed by Vortech.

Thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't want to put any parts that suck on my car :cry:

When all else fails... get on the internet and b!tch. ;)

Chris... your car is weak... I know... PSJ told me so. :p

sprayedtransam
06-22-2005, 01:26 AM
Sounds like you're a little upset :rolleyes:

Heck I would take the whole kit off and demand my money back :mad:

That would show them :eek:

You could have gone to a local Ford dealer and got that part and had it running already and probably been reimbursed by Vortech.

Thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't want to put any parts that suck on my car :cry:

Yep Yep. I have a Ford tensioner pulley on mine :D . :eek:

rskrause
06-22-2005, 07:49 AM
A little over-reaction??

Rich

BADST95
06-22-2005, 10:25 AM
vortech :thumb:

Beh... Procharger is far better. ;)

BADST95
06-22-2005, 11:06 AM
turbo > vortech and procharger

Oh yeah... that STS kit is top quality. :rolleyes:

rskrause
06-22-2005, 12:52 PM
turbo > vortech and procharger

Is that so? Either can be made to work well. I think a centrifugal is easier to install.

Pump gas P'charger F1 383 through a loose converter with a crappy single exhaust. I bet there's another 50-75hp with a good exhaust system.:

http://www.kennedysdynotune.com/images/dynograph.jpg

Rich

RocCityZman
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
Is that so? Either can be made to work well. I think a centrifugal is easier to install.

Pump gas P'charger F1 383 through a loose converter with a crappy single exhaust. I bet there's another 50-75hp with a good exhaust system.:

http://www.kennedysdynotune.com/images/dynograph.jpg

Rich

Is that yours Rich?

rskrause
06-22-2005, 03:04 PM
Is that yours Rich?

Guilty as charged.

Rich

BADST95
06-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Hmmm... Maybe I should spin my engine to 7200 rpms. ;)

The 'Bird dyno graph (http://www.flp2win.com/cart/templates/featured/mitchscar/mitchsdyno.jpg)

No nitrous. :D

Lisa33
06-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Is that so? Either can be made to work well. I think a centrifugal is easier to install.

Pump gas P'charger F1 383 through a loose converter with a crappy single exhaust. I bet there's another 50-75hp with a good exhaust system.:

http://www.kennedysdynotune.com/images/dynograph.jpg

Rich
nice numbers, what pulleysizes do you use and how much boost do you see?
Im running a 7,65/3,7" pulley setup (17psi at 6500rpm) on oure pumpgas 8.5comp 383...

Can you spec a little more info, like comp, timing (wot), heads, cam etc

Thanks
ake

rskrause
06-22-2005, 08:34 PM
Those runs are made with a 2/1 pulley ratio, can't recall the exact size. For testing, I removed the intake piping and in that configuration it sees 21-22psi. With the intake installed it drops to ~17psi. The motor is a 10 over 3.75" stroke "383". Fairly radically ported AFR 195's. 7.8:1 CR. Water injection.

Rich

Owens Racing™
06-22-2005, 10:01 PM
Vortech sucks? My ass douche bag! They make the most reliable best fitting kits on the market.


Most likely YOU miss placed the damn pulley. NO way you make a mistake? Quick to blame Vortech and them say they suck. You suck get an import and be the fag you are jerk off!

I have been dealing with Vortech's for over eleven years and never once had a problem with them.

Sorry to be so harsh but the guys at Vortech have bent over backwards for us in the past. We had the FIRST 4 Valve kit out, Saleen was at the race and we asked him if he got his yet he said they are not out, so we asked them to come by and check out what we got! He was pissed but when you sell tons of units and give them the respect they deserve they give it back, they are not about kissing the big names asses.

done ranting! you hit a nerve pal

BCAUTOSOUND
06-22-2005, 10:08 PM
HEY BUD,

I realize people make mistakes. However, not putting the tensioner in the box was a mistake. Not sending it out the first time you said you would was horrible. Not sending it unil the third time is unexcusable. I own several retail car audio stores and if I screwed something up four times I would expect someone to bitch and talk bad about me. I don't care how good you product is if you can't treat a guy on the phone who just spent four grand like he is just being impatiant. Hell ya I'm impatiant if I wasn't impatiant I would have waited the two weeks to get the ATI kit I really wanted.

CrabhartZ28
06-22-2005, 11:35 PM
Guilty as charged.

Rich

You really got up to 7k?

rskrause
06-22-2005, 11:59 PM
You really got up to 7k?

Why not? There are small block Chevys that turn a lot more than that.. Though I did settle on a bit different setup.

Rich

Lisa33
06-23-2005, 05:16 AM
Those runs are made with a 2/1 pulley ratio, can't recall the exact size. For testing, I removed the intake piping and in that configuration it sees 21-22psi. With the intake installed it drops to ~17psi. The motor is a 10 over 3.75" stroke "383". Fairly radically ported AFR 195's. 7.8:1 CR. Water injection.

Rich
OK, gotta to book a dyno time now, did you have any troubles widh wheelspin on the dyno?
Was the 800+ widhout intake piping? if so, how much widh it on?
Thanks
ake

engineermike
06-23-2005, 07:35 AM
You really got up to 7k?

I ran mine up to 7200 on the dyno with a hydraulic roller and no rev kit. . . didn't make 800 hp though. . . Hp peaked at 6500 and dropped about 25 at 7200.

1st and goal
06-23-2005, 08:35 AM
Vortech sucks? My ass douche bag! They make the most reliable best fitting kits on the market.


Most likely YOU miss placed the damn pulley. NO way you make a mistake? Quick to blame Vortech and them say they suck. You suck get an import and be the fag you are jerk off!

I have been dealing with Vortech's for over eleven years and never once had a problem with them.

Sorry to be so harsh but the guys at Vortech have bent over backwards for us in the past. We had the FIRST 4 Valve kit out, Saleen was at the race and we asked him if he got his yet he said they are not out, so we asked them to come by and check out what we got! He was pissed but when you sell tons of units and give them the respect they deserve they give it back, they are not about kissing the big names asses.

done ranting! you hit a nerve pal

Nice rant :bow:

A missing part is not the end of the world

rskrause
06-23-2005, 10:06 AM
OK, gotta to book a dyno time now, did you have any troubles widh wheelspin on the dyno?
Was the 800+ widhout intake piping? if so, how much widh it on?
Thanks
ake


Yep, those runs were with an open inlet. Even with my custom hard intake pipe it drops ~5psi and 50-60rwhp with the inlet and air filter. No wheelspin issues in high gear, never tried it in the lower hears.

Rich

Lisa33
06-23-2005, 02:00 PM
OK thanks

Blownbird355
06-25-2005, 03:51 AM
Actually Vortech sucks and blows!!
Depends which side you are on.

rskrause
06-25-2005, 08:35 AM
Actually Vortech sucks and blows!!
Depends which side you are on.

And that biatch even whines while she's sucking and blowing.

Rich

Owens Racing™
06-25-2005, 10:17 AM
And that biatch even whines while she's sucking and blowing.

Rich

I think she squels.

Blownbird355
06-26-2005, 03:45 AM
And that biatch even whines while she's sucking and blowing.

Rich

Nice wasn't expecting that. :)

'68LT1camaro
06-27-2005, 10:14 PM
Those runs are made with a 2/1 pulley ratio, can't recall the exact size. For testing, I removed the intake piping and in that configuration it sees 21-22psi. With the intake installed it drops to ~17psi. The motor is a 10 over 3.75" stroke "383". Fairly radically ported AFR 195's. 7.8:1 CR. Water injection.

Rich

Hey Rich, Is that without an intercooler?

Raymond

rskrause
06-27-2005, 10:32 PM
Hey Rich, Is that without an intercooler?

Raymond

No IC, but using a big dose of water/methanol.

Rich

lillbush5555
06-28-2005, 08:59 PM
And that biatch even whines while she's sucking and blowing.

Rich



Sounds like my X HAHAHAHAHA :lol:

Matt