Spy pic: 2007 Chevy Suburban

Another piece of the GMT900 puzzle:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15824

looks like the same current facial design exept thicker.

Ohhh....a Chrome bar by god!

Ohhh....a Chrome bar by god!

LoL....didn't see that one coming did you?

I'd just consider the source on that one.

Thanks for the link. It's much appreciated. We spend our hard earned cash on these to bring them to members with $0 in return. That's what a true GM enthusiast is in my book.

This truck looks to be a big hit. From the interior bits that C&G exclusively provided and the hood bits we've shown, these look like big money makers for the company. And those they need right now.

Projector headlamps?

Projector headlamps?
Maybe not on the Chevys buy definately on the Denalis and Escalade triplets.

It looks like the headlamps are NOT split into upper and lower portions like all the current trucks...

That is something different. We'll have to see how it looks without the cammo. The split headlights certainly differentiated the Chevy from the Cadillac and especially the GMC.

Ohhh....a Chrome bar by god!

Actually I bet it is body color. Also I would expect the bowtie to be quite a bit larger. Darn now I have to play with photoshop for a few hours tonight.

Actually I bet it is body color. Also I would expect the bowtie to be quite a bit larger. Darn now I have to play with photoshop for a few hours tonight.


I agree, at least on the trim level in this picture (I wouldn't be surprised to see a full chrome bar on other trim level(s)), the bar looks to be body color, with a thin chrome accent ring around the edges, which looks to be a nice touch.

I'd just consider the source on that one.

Thanks for the link. It's much appreciated. We spend our hard earned cash on these to bring them to members with $0 in return. That's what a true GM enthusiast is in my book.

This truck looks to be a big hit. From the interior bits that C&G exclusively provided and the hood bits we've shown, these look like big money makers for the company. And those they need right now.
Will the bashing ever end? It really discredits what is a very good website. Grow up.

Looks good from what I can see. I expect the Grills to look like the last 2 V8 Colorado Concepts with a colored bar and non-split lights.

I love the bar on Chevy truck grills, I'd hate to see them lose them. Buy a GMC if you don't like it.

This truck looks to be a big hit. From the interior bits that C&G exclusively provided and the hood bits we've shown, these look like big money makers for the company. And those they need right now.

Actually, it looks more like a facelifted GMT-800. Yes, it's different front clip. Yes, you've shown us some updated interior trim. But is the GMT-900 a "clean sheet of paper design?" Sadly, the answer is looking more and more like no!

Actually, it looks more like a facelifted GMT-800. Yes, it's different front clip. Yes, you've shown us some updated interior trim. But is the GMT-900 a "clean sheet of paper design?" Sadly, the answer is looking more and more like no!

A picture of a flat-black truck in camo and suddenly everybody on the planet is a styling expert.

Holy buckets.

Actually, it looks more like a facelifted GMT-800. Yes, it's different front clip. Yes, you've shown us some updated interior trim. But is the GMT-900 a "clean sheet of paper design?" Sadly, the answer is looking more and more like no!


...and you can make out every angle of the vehicle beneath that camo, right? :rolleyes: Did you expect it to look like a flying saucer? It's a truck/SUV...of course it is going to look dimensionally similar to what it is replacing, and the rest is hidden by camo.

Save the bashing....we're all a bit tired of it. :death:

Maybe not on the Chevys buy definately on the Denalis and Escalade triplets.
If the round lights in the picture are not projectors it will be pretty sad. The Denalis and especially Escalades should get HIDs.

redzed, the only reason the freaking Titan/Armada was a clean sheet design is because they didn't have a full size prior to that. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that, whenever the Titan is redesigned, it will be based on the existing platform.

So will the next F-Series, Ram, etc.

:blah:

redzed, the only reason the freaking Titan/Armada was a clean sheet design is because they didn't have a full size prior to that. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that, whenever the Titan is redesigned, it will be based on the existing platform.

So will the next F-Series, Ram, etc.

:blah:
I know for a fact that you are correct.

redzed, the only reason the freaking Titan/Armada was a clean sheet design is because they didn't have a full size prior to that.

Nissan also didn't have ancient UAW-plagued assembly facilities or any of the internal power struggles that typify General Motors.

It just goes to show why a "transplant" has an easier time in today's economy than a "legacy" company.


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that, whenever the Titan is redesigned, it will be based on the existing platform.

So will the next F-Series, Ram, etc.

:blah:

Sure, Nissan will be starting from a fairly radical 2004-vintage base when the second generation Titan/Armada appears sometime before the end of the decade

Currently, the 1999-vintage GMT-800 is the base from which the GMT-900 is being developed. Unfortunately, GMT-800 was an ultra-orthodox and fairly uninnovative design by even the standards of CY1998. It's equally unfortunate that Lutz cancelled the a more radical fullsized truck/SUV architecture.

I know for a fact that you are correct.

Please elaborate.

Please elaborate.
2008 is merely a refresh. Slightly changed interior and facias.

...It's equally unfortunate that Lutz cancelled the a more radical fullsized truck/SUV architecture.

Lambda? You would rather have a Ridgeline like Unibody FWD fullsize truck than the most powerful, well balanced, best economy BOF Fullsize truck on the market?

Lambda is still on and will be produced at GM's new Delta Township plant. Lambda will spawn the next (first?) generation of cross-over vehicles. GM plans to bring lots to market over the next few years and most will reside on Lambda.

Lambda is still on and will be produced at GM's new Delta Township plant. Lambda will spawn the next (first?) generation of cross-over vehicles. GM plans to bring lots to market over the next few years and most will reside on Lambda.

Lambda was supposed to premier in 2004.:lol:

The Japanese rarely ever start off with a clean sheet design platform. Almost everything they do is an evolution of an existing platform. They all get commended for this approach and are hailed as merely trying to "perfect" what they have. If the Big 3 take this approach, they are pretty universally lambasted for not starting off with a completely new design. Look at the C6 Corvette for example. Magazines jokingly called it the C5-3/4 or whatever it was. Granted, I'll give you the fact the Japanese generally have better platforms to refine, but still...

Nissan also didn't have ancient UAW-plagued assembly facilities or any of the internal power struggles that typify General Motors.

It just goes to show why a "transplant" has an easier time in today's economy than a "legacy" company.




Sure, Nissan will be starting from a fairly radical 2004-vintage base when the second generation Titan/Armada appears sometime before the end of the decade

Currently, the 1999-vintage GMT-800 is the base from which the GMT-900 is being developed. Unfortunately, GMT-800 was an ultra-orthodox and fairly uninnovative design by even the standards of CY1998. It's equally unfortunate that Lutz cancelled the a more radical fullsized truck/SUV architecture.


Explain your definition of "base" (See above) Because I bet you're wrong.

Also, "UAW plagued." I'd love to see instances of how the UAW in a particular plant is holding it back.

Also, "UAW plagued." I'd love to see instances of how the UAW in a particular plant is holding it back.
People that don't work with UAW employees don't know how helpful/hard working they can be. Unfortunately, that is dampered by the bargaining agreement that ties many hands in the US's manufacturing facilities. I believe in unions as an organizing body, but not as a rule-enforcing body. THAT is why unions get a bad rep.

On the other hand, some could see "UAW plagued" from the cost perspective. Off the top of my head, I would estimate that the average UAW line worker costs the Big 3 (and Delphi and Visteon) somewhere around $45-50/hour with full burden. Compare that to a Toyota line worker in Georgetown, KY (one of the higher paying Japanese facilities in the US) costing $30-35 (estimated). Now, do you see where the UAW is CONTRIBUTING to making the Big 3 uncompetitive???

looks like they adapted the same theme on the GMt900 chevy as they did on the Equanox. If the rest of it looks as edgy and clean as the 'nox under all that camo, it should be a looker.

chop (http://img162.echo.cx/my.php?image=cggmt900burbanchop7tw.jpg)

Thought I would show off a chop I did on Friday.