New stock Z06 traps 124 VIDEO

DougsfastZ
04-26-2005, 01:34 PM
Sick cars

http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=0124F80F-6AA2-4A13-88E1-4643A8124626

http://www.southfloridaracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23717

Doug D

psychocabbage
04-26-2005, 01:58 PM
I didnt know the Z06's were out already.. geesh. .kewl tho!

atljar
04-26-2005, 02:01 PM
They arent out yet. Notice that video says Beech Bend Raceway. Beech bend is in bowling green, KY, what else is in Bowling green? :)

And in that board, they are talking about BB not hooking up. I had the EXACT same experience there, scary trying to get traction. Fully heated nittos and I almost took out the wall comming out of the hole. I see High 10s and 127ish traps from that stock.

Pasky
04-26-2005, 02:02 PM
Video sucked.... Still damn cool, but I thought C5 Z06's were runnign the same times...

ford
04-26-2005, 02:10 PM
Now the Viper guys are justified in being scared.

Fast Caddie
04-26-2005, 02:13 PM
That's wicked. Looks like they had to feather it coming out of the hole. Better tires (DRs) and that car will fly...especially with 400tq coming from way down at 2400rpm.

I agree Pasky, i don't like streetfire either... video hosting service that's slow as ****. Some of the videos on there look awsome, too bad you can't view any of them in decent quality.

scott9050
04-26-2005, 05:00 PM
So it looks like it's not as fast as the Ford GT as some said it would be, I've seen traps of 131-133 for it. Still nice times.

BlackLT1_TX
04-26-2005, 05:11 PM
How about buying a 98 vette for 19,000 and dropping 15,000-20,000 in a bad ass motor/tranny/rear combo. That would only leave you with 35,000 for gas and such, and you'd still be kicking that cars arse.

94ZRiCeKiLr
04-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Video sucked.... Still damn cool, but I thought C5 Z06's were runnign the same times...

GMHTP got an 04 Z06 to run an 11.97 but the mph was only 118. also, the 04 was running in colder weather and was cutting high 1.9 - low 2.0 60 foots.

the C6 ran 6 mph faster in warmer weather and ETd basically the same while slipping and sliding.

Aaron91RS
04-26-2005, 05:58 PM
the 427 alone is $15,000.
And who wants a pathetic 346 anymore even if it's 'built' when anything it can do the 427 can do better.
Not to mention the rest of the car. Styling, brakes, suspension, etc

Aaron91RS
04-26-2005, 06:00 PM
I'd guess 11.6@125.6mph with a top speed of 194mph assuming the gear box has the same gears as the old one.

ford
04-26-2005, 06:20 PM
I'd guess the only way ill get to drive one, is to steal it :(

Shawn 97 Z28 M6
04-26-2005, 06:49 PM
So it looks like it's not as fast as the Ford GT as some said it would be, I've seen traps of 131-133 for it. Still nice times.


Ehh.. But imagine the Z06 w/ a blower..... Or even $100k worth of mods to = the GT's pricetag. :p


Game. Set. Match. GM :D

scott9050
04-26-2005, 07:24 PM
Ehh.. But imagine the Z06 w/ a blower..... Or even $100k worth of mods to = the GT's pricetag. :p


Game. Set. Match. GM :D

Or take a new Mustang GT, drop in $50,000 and waste the Z06 in every category. Silly argument.

Javier97Z28
04-26-2005, 07:29 PM
How about buying a 98 vette for 19,000 and dropping 15,000-20,000 in a bad ass motor/tranny/rear combo. That would only leave you with 35,000 for gas and such, and you'd still be kicking that cars arse.


Because you'll still have a '98 Vette. Silly argument.

Inutero
04-26-2005, 08:03 PM
Or take a new Mustang GT, drop in $50,000 and waste the Z06 in every category. Silly argument.



or buy a lt1 for 4500 (friend just bought a 94 for that, 78,000 miles), drop 15,000 in it, and totally destroy a new rustang GT.

Shawn 97 Z28 M6
04-26-2005, 08:13 PM
Or take a new Mustang GT, drop in $50,000 and waste the Z06 in every category. Silly argument.

Not an arguement.. Just a rebuttal...

And a Mustang? :barf: :shame:

An LS1 F-Bod can do better... For a lot less. :)

Shockwave
04-26-2005, 08:16 PM
How about buying a 98 vette for 19,000 and dropping 15,000-20,000 in a bad ass motor/tranny/rear combo. That would only leave you with 35,000 for gas and such, and you'd still be kicking that cars arse.


Most 'vette owners aren't exactly the wrenching type, if you know what I mean.

scott9050
04-26-2005, 08:40 PM
or buy a lt1 for 4500 (friend just bought a 94 for that, 78,000 miles), drop 15,000 in it, and totally destroy a new rustang GT.

Or buy a $250 pinto, drop in a $500 C-6 460 combo, a $250 used nitrous kit, a $100 8.8 and destroy the LT-1. This is getting ridiculous. "Stop the Insanity" in my best Susan the bald chick voice :)

scott9050
04-26-2005, 08:41 PM
Not an arguement.. Just a rebuttal...

And a Mustang? :barf: :shame:

An LS1 F-Bod can do better... For a lot less. :)

The F-body is also not currently made, so it's not relevant. :) I thought that this was a new car discussion?

Shawn 97 Z28 M6
04-26-2005, 08:56 PM
The F-body is also not currently made, so it's not relevant. :) I thought that this was a new car discussion?


So the pinto is a new car? :o :cool:

scott9050
04-26-2005, 11:11 PM
So the pinto is a new car? :o :cool:
The whole point was that neither was relevant to the discussion, and it was a "rebuttal" just like yours to show just how ridiculous these comparisons are;)

nitrojunky
04-27-2005, 02:55 AM
I will own one of those some day.

There's a lot more to that car than 1/4 mile times. I doubt anyone could duplicate the ~overall~performance/looks/balance/reliability for less than $60k. If you did, you still wouldn't have a 2006 'vette.

I expect mid 11's stock, and I doubt you'll see 10's with a mildly modified car.

Jeremy_30th
04-27-2005, 04:27 AM
read a couple pages on it in my latest GMHTP. they said mid 11's for 1/4 mile but I guess that depends on where the 1/4 is at. also they figured it would have a price tag of arnd 80k :eek: . i'll stick w/my poor mans vette :D


note. they were comparing it to overseas exotic cars. and as far as the viper it has a couple more ponies but outweighs the vette. said all alum alloy frame, diff cooler ect. tons of performance stuff. check out GMHTP (http://gmhightechperformance.com/features/0505htp_z06/)

Jeremy_30th
04-27-2005, 04:29 AM
"It's an amazing machine"

"Somebody put in the wrench time"



Goodwrench :lol:

99blackSS
04-27-2005, 05:43 AM
Is that for sure the drive train it is getting?

MrBonus
04-27-2005, 07:56 AM
I can't wait until they put that motor in the CTS-V.

CPFarhood
04-27-2005, 08:49 AM
also they figured it would have a price tag of arnd 80k :eek: . i'll stick w/my poor mans vette :D
Every single article i've read about the new Z06 has said that GM will NEVER make the kind of pricing mistake they made with the ZR1. Corvette buyers aren't going to spend $80k even $70k is a stretch. I'm betting (and a lot of others will agree with me) that the new Z06 comes in under $65k.

CPFarhood
04-27-2005, 08:50 AM
I can't wait until they put that motor in the CTS-V.
I don't think that will happen, i'm seeing that supercharged northstar as being the future powerplant for the V series vehicles.

DropZ
04-27-2005, 09:14 AM
I'm sure it will run faster than a Ford GT once people have some seat time and they get it on a really good track with good weather. Think about it, the first Z06 tests were mid-low 12's at 114 or so, and they've run high 11's at 118 or so since then on occasion. I see the C6 Z06 running mid-low 11's @ high 120's when they get one broken in, get a sticky track, a driver with some C6 Z06 seat time, and some good weather.

It has a better power to weight ratio than all but the Enzo and the Porsche GT.

MrBonus
04-27-2005, 09:19 AM
I'm sure it will run faster than a Ford GT once people have some seat time and they get it on a really good track with good weather. Think about it, the first Z06 tests were mid-low 12's at 114 or so, and they've run high 11's at 118 or so since then on occasion. I see the C6 Z06 running mid-low 11's @ high 120's when they get one broken in, get a sticky track, a driver with some C6 Z06 seat time, and some good weather.

It has a better power to weight ratio than all but the Enzo and the Porsche GT.

The Ford GT is grossly underrated with power. They're putting down 560 to the wheels stock.

WTF
04-27-2005, 09:49 AM
Either way you slice it...that car is a BEAST!!

CPFarhood
04-27-2005, 09:56 AM
The Ford GT is grossly underrated with power. They're putting down 560 to the wheels stock.
560hp doesn't do you much good when you can't drive your car for months because you're waiting on ford to actually produce the parts to complete a recall.....

DropZ
04-27-2005, 09:57 AM
The Ford GT is grossly underrated with power. They're putting down 560 to the wheels stock.

What does the C6 Z06 put down at the wheels, stock? I would imagine nobody knows yet. If it's less than 510 hp then I will include the Ford GT as having a better power to weight ratio. If it is 510+ hp then the Z06 beats the Ford GT. I wouldn't be surprised knowing how GM rates the LSx series motors.

scott9050
04-27-2005, 11:30 AM
Since the fastest stock GT has trapped 133 I doubt that the Z06 is going to beat it or even come closer than 5 mph of it.

DougsfastZ
04-27-2005, 11:39 AM
Since the fastest stock GT has trapped 133 I doubt that the Z06 is going to beat it or even come closer than 5 mph of it.

Who cares, the car isn't going anywhere with broken control arms:)

"Ford has identified a quality issue with the suspension control arms on the affected vehicles which may adversely affect vehicle handling in the event of a control arm fracture. In the event a customer does not seek service for the diminished handling concern, a crash potentially could occur."

Doug D

CPFarhood
04-27-2005, 11:42 AM
Who cares, the car isn't going anywhere with broken control arms:)

"Ford has identified a quality issue with the suspension control arms on the affected vehicles which may adversely affect vehicle handling in the event of a control arm fracture. In the event a customer does not seek service for the diminished handling concern, a crash potentially could occur."

Doug D
Like i mentioned before... they put out that recall in like november, replacement parts weren't scheduled to be available until like march..... I'd be returning my $150k car for a full refund at that point.

PacerX
04-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Like i mentioned before... they put out that recall in like november, replacement parts weren't scheduled to be available until like march..... I'd be returning my $150k car for a full refund at that point.

Might wanna get that rear main seal checked out at the same time...

I hear the latest fix for that one is Silly Putty and a Priest.

"Dear Lord, we beseecheth thee to casteth out the evil spirits of this automobile. We pray that thou mayeth have thine strength shown in the control arms. We pray that the wholly corrupted contract shop that Ford sent all the engineering work on this car to (Mayflower... heh...) might be smitten. We further implore thee to keep the oil where it belongeth, forever and ever,

AMEN

Now, gimme that little egg thingy the Silly Putty came in, the blessed duct tape, a gallon of holy water and a shot of scotch... I'm going in."

Chris 96 WS6
04-27-2005, 12:07 PM
I've raced at Beech Bend many times. I have a local friend who was there for those passes. Said the conditions were garbage. Track prep there varies but for a thing like the Vette day I doubt they prepped very well at all. If a points paying event were there they'd prep better.

There's easily .5 more in that just from a better launch and driver, maybe quite a bit more.

Big Als Z
04-27-2005, 12:08 PM
Is that for sure the drive train it is getting?

In the Z06? Yeah, since its debut in Detroit in Jan, the all aluminum, 427 LS7 with dry sump oil and 6spd manual. Its all set in stone.

30thZ286speed
04-27-2005, 02:22 PM
So it looks like it's not as fast as the Ford GT as some said it would be, I've seen traps of 131-133 for it. Still nice times.


It is still way to early to tell

Bob Cosby
04-27-2005, 02:30 PM
I've raced at Beech Bend many times. I have a local friend who was there for those passes. Said the conditions were garbage. Track prep there varies but for a thing like the Vette day I doubt they prepped very well at all. If a points paying event were there they'd prep better.

There's easily .5 more in that just from a better launch and driver, maybe quite a bit more.

As posted in the other thread talking about these runs, while the track may have been garbage (though excuses suck, IMHO), the air certainly was not - DA's averaged between +200 and -200 through the day.

BigBlueCruiser
04-27-2005, 02:36 PM
As posted in the other thread talking about these runs, while the track may have been garbage (though excuses suck, IMHO), the air certainly was not - DA's averaged between +200 and -200 through the day.

So it's really a 124mph car. Compared to a 133mph GT.

Bob Cosby
04-27-2005, 02:40 PM
No, I don't think so. I think you'll see 125-126 out of stock Z06s, and probably 128-130 out of stock GTs.

That's an opinion only, based soley upon what I have read.

Chris 96 WS6
04-27-2005, 03:22 PM
As posted in the other thread talking about these runs, while the track may have been garbage (though excuses suck, IMHO), the air certainly was not - DA's averaged between +200 and -200 through the day.

Point taken. Hard to argue with a Meteorologist! I would agree the air had to have been great. We usually have the same weather here as in BG and it was pretty cold Saturday.

Gold_Rush
04-27-2005, 03:34 PM
So it's really a 124mph car. Compared to a 133mph GT.

GT has run 133mph traps?? :eek: Last and fastest one i can recall was 131.2mph or something along those lines from MT with the 3 way shootout between it and the Enzo and Carrera GT. Now 133? It's just getting faster with every test. I remember the early tests and the pre-production test cars turning in 124mph traps. As they got closer to production, they just got faster.

If it's running anything near or over 130mph traps, it's packing a lot more than the rated 550hp.

Mind pointing me to this test with the 133mph traps? i like reading up on the GT, and i seemed to have missed out on this.

Schismblade
04-27-2005, 04:11 PM
GT trapped 133mph in *one* mag test. All the others were in the mid/high 120s.

Why don't we wait until the car is actually out before we internet race?

PacerX
04-27-2005, 04:39 PM
GT trapped 133mph in *one* mag test. All the others were in the mid/high 120s.

Why don't we wait until the car is actually out before we internet race?

Interesting thought...

Did anyone ever consider that if the Z06 is trapping in 3rd that it may skew the mph/et in such a way that it actually runs the 1/4 quicker than the mph would indicate?

One of you 1/4 mile gurus field that one.

See, it would make for ENDLESS pissing contests if the Z06 et'd quicker but the GT had a higher trap.