why no hoodscoop on the Magnum SRT8?

Every other vehicle in the Dodge SRT lineup has a functional hoodscoop, but the Magnum version has none. It doesn't even have a non-functional scoop. Any idea why?

The 300C doesn't, granted it is a Chrysler. I thought I saw a pic that showed a reversed scoop, like the Cobras? Not sure if it was functional, probably not.

cus its still just a station wagon.

cus its still just a station wagon.
and the Neon SRT4 is "still just a Neon" :rolleyes:
and the Ram SRT10 is "still just a truck" :rolleyes:

I think the Magnum is pretty badass! I liked it even before the SRT8 came out. Heck, I liked it when I saw the concept car at the Dallas Auto Show 2 years ago! :D

and the Neon SRT4 is "still just a Neon" :rolleyes:
and the Ram SRT10 is "still just a truck" :rolleyes:

I think the Magnum is pretty badass! I liked it even before the SRT8 came out. Heck, I liked it when I saw the concept car at the Dallas Auto Show 2 years ago! :D
Ditto.

While I like the looks of the 300c more if push came to shove I think I'd buy a Magnum over any other Dodge product. They look good they are kind of quick(the SRT-8 version should run into mid 13s at least)and they have a lot more functionality to them. If I have to have a four door vehicle for a performer having the cargo capacity of a wagon doesn't hurt.

and the Neon SRT4 is "still just a Neon" :rolleyes:
and the Ram SRT10 is "still just a truck" :rolleyes:

I think the Magnum is pretty badass! I liked it even before the SRT8 came out. Heck, I liked it when I saw the concept car at the Dallas Auto Show 2 years ago! :D
Good for you. You like a station wagon. I don't and no amount of commercials and PR will make me like it.
I have nothing against the Magnum, except that its unique styling in the front end (which I like) will be used on the future Charger. Other than that, it might as well have a VW or H on the front grille as far as I'm concerned.
I respect the Neon SRT but as far as the truck goes...well, it is a truck. I don't understand why a bunch of pencil pushers want to drive a big shiney, clean, and purdy truck, but hey...different strokes/different folks.

a station wagon though... :blah: Maybe if I ever become a home-husband, and have a bunch of kids n all that. :blah: I respect import ricers more than people who buy a station wagon for being sporty. at least ricers are doing what car guys have always done: buy a cheap car and mod it for looks/performance. I just dont see teh need for 'street racing technology' for a grocery getter. That, to me, deserves a :rolleyes:

I've always hated station wagons but the Magnum is one of my favorite cars at the moment. After sitting in one and feeling that power, it's a fun little toy.

a station wagon though... :blah: Maybe if I ever become a home-husband, and have a bunch of kids n all that. :blah: I respect import ricers more than people who buy a station wagon for being sporty. at least ricers are doing what car guys have always done: buy a cheap car and mod it for looks/performance. I just dont see teh need for 'street racing technology' for a grocery getter. That, to me, deserves a :rolleyes:
That's a very short-sighted view of performance cars.

Nobody said affordable performance had to be limited to rice rockets and pony cars. I don't know how old you are, but when you have your own place (even if you're unmarried) and you need a vehicle that you can actually fit things into, a Camaro/Mustang or a Honda/Cobalt/Scion, or for that matter even a GTO is not going to do the job. These are the kinds of people who would normally have to give up their performance cars to buy SUVs or pickups, but now they can have huge V8 power without giving up the functionality of a larger car.

Heck, nobody even said performance had to be sporty looking. Maybe some people don't want to drive cop magnets to their professional jobs every day. If you're taking a potential high-dollar business client to lunch in a 2002 Trans Am with Ram Air hood scoops, a rumbly exhaust, cloth interior, and a relatively large stock spoiler on the back, he probably won't look at you as much of a professional, and more of a street-racer in a suit and tie (even if that's what you are, you don't have to show it). You'll want a car that's a little more conservative looking, but still a great performer for when you aren't at the office.

That's what the LX cars (300C/Magnum) are all about. "Fast with class". That's what the G-body and the Ford Thunderbird were about. The gentleman's performance car. No hood scoops or super curvy body lines, just a classy, near-luxury car with a ton of horses under the hood.

I, for one, am glad to see Chrysler bringing back performance in a practical package. I have no need for a large vehicle right now, since I'm 18 and can borrow the family minivan for the once-in-a-blue-moon that I need to haul something, but I can definitely see myself buying a vehicle like the Magnum 10 years down the road (obviously it would be a newer model by then, but same basic philosophy)

Maybe some of us are too hell-bent on price/performance ratios and looks to realize that performance comes in more than one package. :rolleyes:

I have a deposit on the SRT8 Magnum, I can't wait!

and a Magnum can whip our asses also with a little mods...and it huals the grocery's AND the tile for the bathroom...and carry the two people helping you along with your son..

our cars cant do that

Maybe some of us are too hell-bent on price/performance ratios and looks to realize that performance comes in more than one package. :rolleyes:
I guess you have a point. It's just a station wagon to me, but I understand where you're coming from. Personally, I'd just rather have one car for each purpose than some all-in-one.

and a Magnum can whip our asses also with a little mods...and it huals the grocery's AND the tile for the bathroom...and carry the two people helping you along with your son..

our cars cant do that
I have a pick-up...I can do ALL OF THAT! :D except the whippin ass part :(

and thats what the Magnum was made for..a guy that only wants one car..would love to buy one..

My Hemi Ram can haul and haul ass. It is just not a great people moving car. With one baby, and planning on a second one, I need a car that can accomodate two childeren, the wife and the mutt in the rear. But I still like my fun. Mind you, I am upgrading from a Matrix XRS. So I am already used to the wagon. I just like one that can haul groceries as well as gluteus maximus. I opined to the wife that the lower ride height, brembos make the SRT8 safer than the RT. Not to mention, I promised I wouldn't mod it like I have her truck. The truck has Thorley headers, flowmaster exhaust, electric fan, APS convertor, true flow intake, Hotchkis TVS and corresponding bilsteins and superchips programmer. Anytime we have to go to the dealership for servicing, she holds her breath on account of all the mods. She will like a car that I can drive off the lot and just drive. (I still plan on going with a 3" exhaust from Magnaflow and a true flow intake). But these mods are somewhat invisible. Hehehehe :D

Every other vehicle in the Dodge SRT lineup has a functional hoodscoop, but the Magnum version has none. It doesn't even have a non-functional scoop. Any idea why?

"Functional" is a term that can be used very loosely.

It's functional as far as it being an actual hole in the hood.
But it doesn't scoop air into the engine. In that regard I wouldn't call it functional. :)

the Dodge SRT website claims that all the other cars have "funcational" hoodscoops. Who knows if they actually help anything...

I guess you have a point. It's just a station wagon to me, but I understand where you're coming from. Personally, I'd just rather have one car for each purpose than some all-in-one. His post was right on, while I am not, nor was I ever a wagon guy, that Magnum is pretty hot. A scoop would probably do it some justice. There was a time I only had 1 car, and it was almost alway a Camaro, I have sqeazzzed all kinds of stuff in them. I now have a pick-up too, and its not too bad in the whoop ass dept. either, but variety is always a good thing! :)

My Hemi Ram can haul and haul ass. It is just not a great people moving car. With one baby, and planning on a second one, I need a car that can accomodate two childeren, the wife and the mutt in the rear. But I still like my fun. Mind you, I am upgrading from a Matrix XRS. So I am already used to the wagon. I just like one that can haul groceries as well as gluteus maximus. I opined to the wife that the lower ride height, brembos make the SRT8 safer than the RT. Not to mention, I promised I wouldn't mod it like I have her truck. The truck has Thorley headers, flowmaster exhaust, electric fan, APS convertor, true flow intake, Hotchkis TVS and corresponding bilsteins and superchips programmer. Anytime we have to go to the dealership for servicing, she holds her breath on account of all the mods. She will like a car that I can drive off the lot and just drive. (I still plan on going with a 3" exhaust from Magnaflow and a true flow intake). But these mods are somewhat invisible. Hehehehe :D
I rented a 2003 Ram with a Hemi. It was nice, but for 5.7L and for it being 2003 and all hyped up, I was disappointed. I have no doubt though that with mods, as yours obviously has been, it would have great potential. As a matter of fact, I really loved the interior of it, and would probably buy one if I was in the market right now, especially since they killed the Dakota with those retarded frog-like headlights.
By the way, I recommend spintech mufflers on that bad boy ;)

I haven't taken the truck to the track, but I routinely kill Harley F150s and Silverado SS. I was head to head with a lightning until 50 then he tore me a new one. The APS torque convertor makes a big difference off the line.

I haven't taken the truck to the track, but I routinely kill Harley F150s and Silverado SS. I was head to head with a lightning until 50 then he tore me a new one. The APS torque convertor makes a big difference off the line.


I cast a little doubt on the harley f150's......unless you they are more then 2 years old.

There are Hemi QC that are running 12s, stock with a 100 shot of nitrous. The only bad thing about the Hemi is the speed density, lack of aftermarket parts. The electric fan, pulleys, 180 thermo were all fashioned into play using a little ingenuity and off the shelf parts made for other cars. The APS convertor is application specific as is the headers, cat back, high flow cats, cold air intake, superchips proggramer and suspension. Trucks equiped with 3.92s and the torque convertors are hell on wheels off the line. (which mine is). The factory 17s weigh 20 lbs less than the "bling" factory 20s. (which mine has). I would have gotten nitrous, but the wife drives it more than I do. I have dynoed over 307 rwhp and 347 lb/ft of torque. I can't wait for the release of the Mopar performance computer, and injectors that come with it. I can't imagine how the Magnum SRT8 feels with more power, and significantly less weight.

the Dodge SRT website claims that all the other cars have "funcational" hoodscoops. Who knows if they actually help anything...

I'd imagine that they cool the underhood temperature somewhat, but since they don't feed the airbox, I'd question how functional they are as far as any "cold air" or "ram air" effect, but at least they are "open" scoops vs. "fake."

There are Hemi QC that are running 12s, stock with a 100 shot of nitrous. The only bad thing about the Hemi is the speed density, lack of aftermarket parts. The electric fan, pulleys, 180 thermo were all fashioned into play using a little ingenuity and off the shelf parts made for other cars. The APS convertor is application specific as is the headers, cat back, high flow cats, cold air intake, superchips proggramer and suspension. Trucks equiped with 3.92s and the torque convertors are hell on wheels off the line. (which mine is). The factory 17s weigh 20 lbs less than the "bling" factory 20s. (which mine has). I would have gotten nitrous, but the wife drives it more than I do. I have dynoed over 307 rwhp and 347 lb/ft of torque. I can't wait for the release of the Mopar performance computer, and injectors that come with it. I can't imagine how the Magnum SRT8 feels with more power, and significantly less weight.

Can you show mw a QC running 12's stock with a 100 shot? a stock quad should run low 15's with a 100 shot, thats high 13's. Maybe with a 200 shot you could do it. The power to weight just is not there with a for just a 100 shot. By the way, I own a titan that runs similar times to the hemi ram.

I will get Brokkanic to help me post the video I have of Hemi777. He has a pretty much bone stock Hemi that runs 12.75 with a 100 shot. (bolt ons, no internal mods)

I will get Brokkanic to help me post the video I have of Hemi777. He has a pretty much bone stock Hemi that runs 12.75 with a 100 shot. (bolt ons, no internal mods)

You do realize that boltons does not equal stock? Not just that but thats also a faster time then the SRT10 ram runs with less HP and torque. Hell, thats faster then most people can get the 400hp c6 to run at over 2000 less pounds. A stock Hemi Ram only puts about 250-260hp to the wheels. A hundred shot is not enough to get a truck that heavy to the 12's.

Just to clarify, we are only having this discussion because you doubt the Hemi (or perhaps just my wife's Hemi's ability to run with F150 Harley Davidsons) You quoted a 0-60 run and a 1/4 run of a QC Hemi. MT tested a 2500 QC 8.1 for 0-60, and 16.2 for the 1/4. The 1500 weighs 350 lbs less than the 2500, the RWD weighs 200 lbs less. Trucks with 3.92s will run away from trucks with 3.55s. Trucks with the factory 20s are much slower than the factory 17s. The 20 wheel and tire weighs in at 63 lbs, the 17s 41. That being said, I have a bunch of buddies who have SB QC 1500 Hemis like myself who run their trucks at our local track. They pretty much have the same mods as me. The fastest guy is Troy, and he runs 14.7-14.9 without his tailgate and removal of his spare. The only track prep he does is lower the tire pressure on his 17s. Harleys have been timed at 14.5-14.9. My TC is a 2500 stall, Troys is a 2400. We have almost identical set ups, except he has a volant cold air, and I have a true flow. On the dyno, I have more rwhp, and higher average ft/lb of torque. Now I have never taken my wife's truck down the 1/4, but in impromtu street races, I can beat his truck up to about 80 (at which point discretion kicks in and I back off). Go find yourself someone with a "modded" Hemi (internally stock). I am sure you will find you will have a good race on your hands. BTW, the Titan is the best truck other than a Hemi as far as speed is concerned (I threw out the SRT10, Lightning of this last comparision.) If I were ever to buy an import, it would be an Armada, or a Titan. :)

KLee, it sounds like you have a real kickass ride. I keep telling people about the torque converter but most people just dont get it.
By the way, did you recently add that 200lbs/sounds in your signature? I don't remember seeing it there, but then again, my memory sucks.

I was making fun of all the ricers who add a ton of audio and visual equipment to their cars not knowing the effect it has on performance.