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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Cadillac XLR = #1 in Total Quality, GM & Hyundai made biggest gain in '04

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article....&src=LP%20used

General Motors and Hyundai were the big stories in terms of improvement for 2004. General Motors vehicles earned the top score in 11 of 19 categories (including ties) after topping only four categories last year. The Cadillac XLR was the highest scoring model in the 2004 survey.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Sure is alotta GM on that list!
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Is it just me or did I not see one mention of the Toyota brand in that article.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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HOLY BUCKETS!

GM laid the smack down in a big way!

Way to go!
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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The only thing I didnt really like is that they only interviewed 39,000 people. It didnt seem like a very big sample size...
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck!
The only thing I didnt really like is that they only interviewed 39,000 people. It didnt seem like a very big sample size...
39,000 is HUGE.

To validate the seat belt systems dimensionally that save your life in an accident, we check a grand total of...

...get ready for this...

6 samples.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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39,000 is HUGE.

To validate the seat belt systems dimensionally that save your life in an accident, we check a grand total of...

...get ready for this...

6 samples.
Yep, and political polls go by surveys of "1000 likely voters"...
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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That is excellent news for GM.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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http://autos.msn.com/advice/article....&src=LP%20used

Originally Posted by MSN
Infiniti and Mercedes-Benz tied for the top overall score as a brand. The Infiniti G35 Sedan and the Infiniti FX both earned the top score in their class. The Infiniti and Mercedes-Benz brands were followed by a three-way tie between Cadillac, Jaguar, and Lexus.
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Infiniti tied as the highest scoring brand, and the G35 received the best score for the near-luxury category.
I'd say this little piece of news is better for the Infiniti brand than for Cadillac.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PacerX
39,000 is HUGE.

To validate the seat belt systems dimensionally that save your life in an accident, we check a grand total of...

...get ready for this...

6 samples.
Great. Working in Aerospace this makes me feel more safe about flying than driving.

39,000 still isnt very big.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Great. Working in Aerospace this makes me feel more safe about flying than driving.

39,000 still isnt very big.
Nobody in automotive ever wiped out 400 people becuase they didn't convert the inner diameter of their Kneuter valve from English to Metric properly.

Besides, in Aerospace, your entire production run is 6 pieces. We do 106,000 assemblies a week in one of our plants.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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This survey seems to run counter to most other quality surveys. It's funny that they rate MBenz so highly, when others rank them far lower, but this statement makes me think the entire study is crap:

Volkswagen remained the highest scoring full-line corporation overall, according to Strategic Vision....
They must not have asked anyone that I know who owns a VW/Audi product.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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I thought the same thing when I read the statement about VW. This seems to be more of a "feel good" survey rating the buying and initial ownership experience more than anything else.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck!
39,000 still isnt very big.
When it comes to statistical sampling, 39,000 is ridiculously big. Usually samples will range from less than 10 (if it's very costly to retrieve that data) or up to 1,000 if the data is easily collectable. Data sizes less than a thousand will give extremely accurate confidence intrevals of the information you seek. 39,000 pieces of data in my opinion is actually too much for a survey such as this. The information you receive with 39,000 is only about twice as good as a sample size of 10,000 yet it takes four times longer to get that data.
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Burmite
When it comes to statistical sampling, 39,000 is ridiculously big. Usually samples will range from less than 10 (if it's very costly to retrieve that data) or up to 1,000 if the data is easily collectable. Data sizes less than a thousand will give extremely accurate confidence intrevals of the information you seek. 39,000 pieces of data in my opinion is actually too much for a survey such as this. The information you receive with 39,000 is only about twice as good as a sample size of 10,000 yet it takes four times longer to get that data.
Thanks for remembering the parts of the statistics class I slept through.

Statistics at my school lumped the engineers in with the nursing students and business majors...

HEH.

What a joke after Calc 1,2,3,4, linear algebra and differential equations...

Meanwhile, the nurses-to-be are pulling their hair out trying to come to grips with the idea that the letter "x" is used in place of a number from time to time...



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